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Kaliesto
09/19/19 6:17:45 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UxQ-U-Ki1g" data-time="


All because Japan changed a law about gambling hahahahahahaha, whose laughing now Konami you pieces of garbage! LOL

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refmon
09/19/19 6:18:22 PM
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muh mgs pachinko machines
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09/19/19 6:18:23 PM
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Kaliesto
09/19/19 6:19:06 PM
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refmon posted...
muh mgs pachinko machines



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s0nicfan
09/19/19 6:19:16 PM
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After seeing what they did with Metal Gear Solid after kojima left, I am legitimately afraid for what they will do to Silent Hill.
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Prestoff
09/19/19 6:22:48 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
After seeing what they did with Metal Gear Solid after kojima left, I am legitimately afraid for what they will do to Silent Hill.


I mean they turned Silent Hill into a Pachinko machine, at this point I wouldn't be surprise if they try to turn it into a battle royale or an auto chess game.
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Smashingpmkns
09/19/19 6:24:28 PM
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Prestoff posted...
s0nicfan posted...
After seeing what they did with Metal Gear Solid after kojima left, I am legitimately afraid for what they will do to Silent Hill.


I mean they turned Silent Hill into a Pachinko machine, at this point I wouldn't be surprise if they try to turn it into a battle royale or an auto chess game.


Pretty sure they have made pachinko machines out of every property they own now lol
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Kaliesto
09/19/19 6:25:28 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Pretty sure they have made pachinko machines out of every property they own now lol



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UnfairRepresent
09/19/19 6:25:48 PM
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I don't get why Pachinko machine's existing bother people.

Just don't play them
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Smashingpmkns
09/19/19 6:29:25 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I don't get why Pachinko machine's existing bother people.

Just don't play them


I think it's mainly that they dedicate a lot of funding to these machines and completely abandoned their fanbase. Some of them look like they could have been full fledged games like the Castlevania one.
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Kaliesto
09/19/19 6:29:45 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I don't get why Pachinko machine's existing bother people.

Just don't play them


1) They were heavily reliant on them and mobile games to make a quick buck, there has not been any real console games from them in forever now.
2) They knowingly attract the most vulnerable to create a vicious cycle of gambling addiction, and because of that Japanese Law had to step in.
3) This is just karma coming back to Konami for fucking over every developer under their wing from Suikoden, MGS, etc.

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Kaliesto
09/19/19 6:30:28 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
I think it's mainly that they dedicate a lot of funding to these machines and completely abandoned their fanbase. Some of them look like they could have been full fledged games like the Castlevania one.


And this too, waste of resources.

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Behaviorism
09/19/19 6:31:13 PM
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Kaliesto posted...
1) They were heavily reliant on them and mobile games to make a quick buck, there has not been any real console games from them in forever now.
2) They knowingly attract the most vulnerable to create a vicious cycle of gambling addiction, and because of that Japanese Law had to step in.
3) This is just karma coming back to Konami for fucking over every developer under their wing from Suikoden, MGS, etc.
And Rumble Roses

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DarkRoast
09/19/19 6:31:26 PM
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Konami blew all its money on pachinko machines

mM1SAcx
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Kaliesto
09/19/19 6:32:20 PM
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Fun fact:
Pachinko in Japan is used for money laundering as well since those metal balls are exchanged outside the parlor for money.


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Leanaunfurled
09/19/19 6:32:55 PM
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What's the gambling law that was changed? Video is too long for my attention span >_> Sorry
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s0nicfan
09/19/19 6:33:03 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Konami blew all its money on pachinko machines

mM1SAcx


You could say they gambled... and lost.
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UnfairRepresent
09/19/19 6:36:03 PM
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Kaliesto posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
I don't get why Pachinko machine's existing bother people.

Just don't play them


1) They were heavily reliant on them and mobile games to make a quick buck, there has not been any real console games from them in forever now.
2) They knowingly attract the most vulnerable to create a vicious cycle of gambling addiction, and because of that Japanese Law had to step in.
3) This is just karma coming back to Konami for fucking over every developer under their wing from Suikoden, MGS, etc.


Why is any of that changed whether or not Konami does a MGS or Silent Hill Pachinko machine vs Konami making a Sally Super Adventure pachinko machine?

Its not like they made a pachinko machine instead of MGS6.
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Hop103
09/19/19 6:36:43 PM
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They can't milk old men dry with their addictive pachinko machines anymore. Just wait until lootbox bans start occurring in the US and Europe, their money pit revenue will go dry as well.
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Darmik
09/19/19 6:38:04 PM
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https://wccftech.com/konami-has-a-record-breaking-year/

Konami's reliance on Pachinko is overstated. It's not the main factor as to why they are more profitable than ever.
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Touch
09/19/19 6:38:09 PM
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*laughs in Kojima*
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Alucard188
09/19/19 6:41:36 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Its not like they made a pachinko machine instead of MGS6.


For the past three years, they've had virtually nothing coming as far as consoles are concerned. Instead, they turned their iconic franchises into pachinko machines. Yes, they didn't create a Pachinko machine in lieu of Metal Gear Solid 6, but the resources were certainly tied up in the fucking things. The only thing they've released since then are compilation packs of their iconic games. It's like they're still trying to make a quick buck.

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UnfairRepresent
09/19/19 6:41:46 PM
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Darmik posted...
https://wccftech.com/konami-has-a-record-breaking-year/

Konami's reliance on Pachinko is overstated. It's not the main factor as to why they are more profitable than ever.

Yeah the video covered this if you actually watched it.
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DarkRoast
09/19/19 6:42:00 PM
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I wonder if Death Stranding is one elaborate metaphor for Konami itself
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MI4 REAL
09/19/19 6:42:45 PM
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Heard gambling

expected loot boxes.
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UnfairRepresent
09/19/19 6:44:10 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Its not like they made a pachinko machine instead of MGS6.


For the past three years, they've had virtually nothing coming as far as consoles are concerned. Instead, they turned their iconic franchises into pachinko machines. Yes, they didn't create a Pachinko machine in lieu of Metal Gear Solid 6, but the resources were certainly tied up in the fucking things. The only thing they've released since then are compilation packs of their iconic games. It's like they're still trying to make a quick buck.

The division of the company that makes Pachinko machines and slot machines is literally seperate to the one that makes video games.

It literally had no effect on the "resources" in their video game division. The fact is video games outside of mobile don't reliably make bank so they focus on mobile.

Being angry at the Pachinko machines for existing and having Konami IP on them instead of new IP is silly.
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DarkRoast
09/19/19 6:48:02 PM
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Konami's corporate culture is so comically malignant it's almost borderline parody material.
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Darmik
09/19/19 6:49:39 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Darmik posted...
https://wccftech.com/konami-has-a-record-breaking-year/

Konami's reliance on Pachinko is overstated. It's not the main factor as to why they are more profitable than ever.

Yeah the video covered this if you actually watched it.


The thumbnail and 11 minute length turned me off.

But people in the topic are talking about Pachinko so I thought I'd point it out.
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legendarylemur
09/19/19 6:52:19 PM
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Konami is like one of the most soulless long stay gaming company on the market.

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MI4 REAL
09/19/19 6:53:02 PM
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legendarylemur posted...
Konami is like one of the most soulless long stay gaming company on the market.


You spelled EA Games wrong.
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EverDownward
09/19/19 6:53:57 PM
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Konami returning to video gaming doesn't mean Kojima isn't a pretentious hack.
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Touch
09/19/19 6:55:09 PM
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EverDownward posted...
Konami returning to video gaming doesn't mean Kojima still isn't a pretentious piece of shit.

*Laughs in Kojima*
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DarkRoast
09/19/19 6:55:16 PM
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EverDownward posted...
Konami returning to video gaming doesn't mean Kojima still isn't a pretentious piece of shit.


P.T. looked to be one of the only examples where his pretentiousness might actually have been beneficial.
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EverDownward
09/19/19 6:55:50 PM
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Touch posted...
EverDownward posted...
Konami returning to video gaming doesn't mean Kojima still isn't a pretentious piece of shit.

*Laughs in Kojima*

I legit can't wait for Death Stranding to drop, it's going to be one massive flaming pile of shit.
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legendarylemur
09/19/19 6:56:04 PM
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MI4 REAL posted...
You spelled EA Games wrong.
Lol at least EA Games do actually make games. Konami is definitely worse, and I hate EA Games with a full passion

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EverDownward
09/19/19 6:56:26 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
EverDownward posted...
Konami returning to video gaming doesn't mean Kojima still isn't a pretentious piece of shit.


P.T. looked to be one of the only examples where his pretentiousness might actually have been beneficial.

That was the one time in recent years I was actually excited. Oh well. It doesn't change how I feel about Kojima.
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Touch
09/19/19 6:56:28 PM
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EverDownward posted...
Touch posted...
EverDownward posted...
Konami returning to video gaming doesn't mean Kojima still isn't a pretentious piece of shit.

*Laughs in Kojima*

I legit can't wait for Death Stranding to drop, it's going to be one massive flaming pile of shit.

*Laughs in Kojima*
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DarkRoast
09/19/19 6:56:51 PM
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legendarylemur posted...
MI4 REAL posted...
You spelled EA Games wrong.
Lol at least EA Games do actually make games. Konami is definitely worse, and I hate EA Games with a full passion


Activision and especially 2K Games are the ones who have basically given up on making actual video games. They are slot machines posing as video games.
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EverDownward
09/19/19 6:56:59 PM
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Touch posted...
EverDownward posted...
Touch posted...
EverDownward posted...
Konami returning to video gaming doesn't mean Kojima still isn't a pretentious piece of shit.

*Laughs in Kojima*

I legit can't wait for Death Stranding to drop, it's going to be one massive flaming pile of shit.

*Laughs in Kojima*

You alright, friend? You seem to be stuck on a loop.
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DarkRoast
09/19/19 6:57:30 PM
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EverDownward posted...
Touch posted...
EverDownward posted...
Touch posted...
EverDownward posted...
Konami returning to video gaming doesn't mean Kojima still isn't a pretentious piece of shit.

*Laughs in Kojima*

I legit can't wait for Death Stranding to drop, it's going to be one massive flaming pile of shit.

*Laughs in Kojima*

You alright, friend? You seem to be stuck on a loop.


That's why he's laughing in Kojima
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BignutzisBack
09/19/19 6:57:44 PM
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Smashingpmkns
09/19/19 6:57:51 PM
#42:


Kojima has yet to make a bad game tho.
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Touch
09/19/19 6:58:03 PM
#43:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Kojima has yet to make a bad game tho.

This tbh
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Strapon
09/19/19 6:58:19 PM
#44:


UnfairRepresent posted...
I don't get why Pachinko machine's existing bother people.

Just don't play them


Get logic out of this topix please
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Kaliesto
09/19/19 7:19:26 PM
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Alright so here is a question for you all because NSG board put up with a fit with that video, and supposedly schooling me in a Profit Report about all this stuff, and still rising in 2019. Here is my thing, I don't see this going on if they're going to crack down on Pachinkos. Konami would just likely focus their energy elsewhere to keep generating money.

Also found it strange how some people are just willing to defend Konami regardless of what they're doing.

It's either there is going to be a crackdown on Japanese Gambling Addiction or Japan is just lying and wants to keep people hooked on Pachinkos.

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snesmaster40
09/19/19 7:29:03 PM
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Kaliesto posted...
Also found it strange how some people are just willing to defend Konami regardless of what they're doing.


I wasn't even defending Konami. The only thing I was doing was point out how flawed your outrage Youtuber's speculation on Konami being in trouble is.

For those wondering, the video talks about a gambling law that was amended in Japan in 2018.

Their financial report for 2019 shows that they did just fine in all their sectors, except for sports. It even shows that they did better than 2018.
https://img.konami.com/ir/en/ir-data/statements/2019/en0509_ge7nwz.pdf

Gambling falls under the gaming section and that went up 5.2%

I do think it is funny that you had to lock the topic as usual.
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SauI_Goodman
09/19/19 7:30:10 PM
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if that means we get castlevania 25 i'm all for it.
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Vicious_Dios
09/19/19 8:02:44 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
EverDownward posted...
Touch posted...
EverDownward posted...
Touch posted...
EverDownward posted...
Konami returning to video gaming doesn't mean Kojima still isn't a pretentious piece of shit.

*Laughs in Kojima*

I legit can't wait for Death Stranding to drop, it's going to be one massive flaming pile of shit.

*Laughs in Kojima*

You alright, friend? You seem to be stuck on a loop.


That's why he's laughing in Kojima


Nice!
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Apocalyptic
09/19/19 8:32:10 PM
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Genius Kojumbo.
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Kaliesto
09/19/19 8:40:30 PM
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snesmaster40 posted...
I wasn't even defending Konami. The only thing I was doing was point out how flawed your outrage Youtuber's speculation on Konami being in trouble is.

For those wondering, the video talks about a gambling law that was amended in Japan in 2018.

Their financial report for 2019 shows that they did just fine in all their sectors, except for sports. It even shows that they did better than 2018.
https://img.konami.com/ir/en/ir-data/statements/2019/en0509_ge7nwz.pdf

Gambling falls under the gaming section and that went up 5.2%

I do think it is funny that you had to lock the topic as usual.


Because I lock the topics on NSG because you all can't go a day without being a complete dick if you want me to be real honest how I think about you all over there.

There is never a day where you all don't flame or troll someone just because you didn't like what someone said, if you want me to honestly be serious with you then you need to cut the shit out first and not be a dick then maybe I'll listen to what you have to say. You could have provided the same information to me without having to get all bent out of shape on me saying I was brainwashed.

How the fuck do you think I'll respond to that? This is why I don't take NSG seriously on anything because you all can't stop for once to consider your choice of words, there is a reason why NSG is considered the Toxic pit of GameFAQs and all you did was add to it.

@snesmaster40

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