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karlpilkington4
08/31/19 9:21:37 AM
#153:


biggernails posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
Shablagoo posted...
biggernails posted...
you literally swooped in and defended him as soon as he was running out of posts. it's so much more likely that you are him than not


lmaoo exactly


He asked a legitimate question, you and bunch of others jumped in and attacked him. I called out the trolling and you're now deflecting your behavior by calling me an alt.. Hilarious how anyone could think that this sentence somehow makes me an alt.

"idk what the heck an alt post is. But it sounds better than attacking another user for asking a simple question."

I didn't jump in and attack him. I just made a joke post about policemen. It wasn't personal towards him. I saw all the jumping on him and I was not wanting to be party to it.


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Shablagoo
08/31/19 9:27:09 AM
#154:


Yeah I never said I understand it better than the DA, Im simply giving you the DAs own understanding of the case which you somehow missed even though its plainly stated in the OP.
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Shablagoo
08/31/19 9:29:55 AM
#155:


On topic: this same judge also sentenced a cop to probation who shot and killed an unarmed man.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/20/nyregion/peter-liang-ex-new-york-police-officer-sentenced-akai-gurley-shooting-death-brooklyn.html

And he overruled the sentence of another cop to decrease it from a year in jail to less then 2 months after the cop was convicted of nearly beating a man to death in a road rage case while he was off duty.

https://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/42/27/mm-road-rage-cop-sentenced-2019-07-05-bk.html
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biggernails
08/31/19 9:31:13 AM
#156:


I don't hate cops. I hate the corrupt system that enables bad behavior and abuse of power.
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Hanky_Bannister
08/31/19 9:34:26 AM
#157:


shockthemonkey posted...
Imagine trolling a topic about rape on two separate accounts

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biggernails
08/31/19 9:35:28 AM
#158:


Hanky_Bannister posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Imagine trolling a topic about rape on two separate accounts

was it "rape", or REAL rape? that matters you see
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Hanky_Bannister
08/31/19 9:37:05 AM
#159:


Shablagoo posted...
On topic: this same judge also sentenced a cop to probation who shot and killed an unarmed man.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/20/nyregion/peter-liang-ex-new-york-police-officer-sentenced-akai-gurley-shooting-death-brooklyn.html

And he overruled the sentence of another cop to decrease it from a year in jail to less then 2 months after the cop was convicted of nearly beating a man to death in a road rage case while he was off duty.

https://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/42/27/mm-road-rage-cop-sentenced-2019-07-05-bk.html

Fuck that pig and fuck that judge
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karlpilkington4
08/31/19 9:39:32 AM
#160:


Shablagoo posted...
Yeah I never said I understand it better than the DA, Im simply giving you the DAs own understanding of the case which you somehow missed even though its plainly stated in the OP.


I didn't miss anything. There are specific aspects to the case which aren't clear, and you want to make it out to be cut and dry. Akagami_Shanks already brought up many of these points, which you conveniently ignored.

Once again the ONLY issue I have is you, thinking you're justified in attacking someone for asking a technical question when statements like this are literally in the OP:

"the victim's credibility was "seriously, seriously questionable"

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konokonohamaru
08/31/19 9:41:46 AM
#161:


Exeggcute posted...
As a result of the case, a loophole was closed that previously allowed New York police officers to have sex with those in custody as long as it was consensual.


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Shablagoo
08/31/19 9:44:54 AM
#162:


Hanky_Bannister posted...
Shablagoo posted...
On topic: this same judge also sentenced a cop to probation who shot and killed an unarmed man.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/20/nyregion/peter-liang-ex-new-york-police-officer-sentenced-akai-gurley-shooting-death-brooklyn.html

And he overruled the sentence of another cop to decrease it from a year in jail to less then 2 months after the cop was convicted of nearly beating a man to death in a road rage case while he was off duty.

https://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/42/27/mm-road-rage-cop-sentenced-2019-07-05-bk.html

Fuck that pig and fuck that judge


Heres the judges dumb face in case anyone was curious:

fTg1biR

Judges, Prosecutors, Cops...

All a part of the same shit machine that produces shit results.

Why do they constantly get so much good press? The good press is just propaganda to trick people, plus some people who've been tricked by propaganda perpetuating the lies because they were indoctrinated so young.
There's a reason we're basically raised to worship the military and police, and to an extent politicians. Their system could not exist if we all saw the reality of what it is from day one.

If it was his daughter that got raped, there is no way those cops walk on probation.
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karlpilkington4
08/31/19 9:47:29 AM
#163:


Imagine calling a judge dumb, who knows WAY more about a case than you do, just because you didnt like the outcome of a case you know little about.
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Akagami_Shanks
08/31/19 9:48:44 AM
#164:


karlpilkington4 posted...
Imagine calling a judge dumb, who knows WAY more about a case than you do, just because you didnt like the outcome of a case you know little about.

it is much easier to comment on someones compentency when you yourself have no understanding outside of media headlines and articles

See: all the armchair lawyers,
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Shablagoo
08/31/19 9:50:52 AM
#165:


notice I didnt say the judge was dumb, but his face. Again, reading comprehension is a skill that can be worked on and improved.
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karlpilkington4
08/31/19 9:52:36 AM
#166:


Shablagoo posted...
notice I didnt say the judge was dumb, but his face. Again, reading comprehension is a skill that can be worked on and improved.


And the backpeddling continues.
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CADE FOSTER
08/31/19 9:53:11 AM
#167:


TheVipaGTS posted...
no but see...they are cops so you have to respect them. stop being anti american, TC!

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meestermj
08/31/19 9:57:47 AM
#168:


It's pretty clear from the article what happened.
> cops arrest girl
> cops offer release in exchange for sex
> cops bang girl, release her
The mere fact that they plead guilty speaks fucking volumes. They couldn't be charged for the sex act itself because of an antiquated law, but were charged with official misconduct (see: abuse of power) among other things.

They plead guilty.

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karlpilkington4
08/31/19 10:00:28 AM
#169:


meestermj posted...
It's pretty clear from the article what happened.
> cops arrest girl
> cops offer release in exchange for sex
> cops bang girl, release her
The mere fact that they plead guilty speaks fucking volumes. They couldn't be charged for the sex act itself because of an antiquated law, but were charged with official misconduct (see: abuse of power) among other things.

They plead guilty.


It's not clear who offered initially.
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biggernails
08/31/19 10:01:49 AM
#170:


karlpilkington4 posted...
Shablagoo posted...
Yeah I never said I understand it better than the DA, Im simply giving you the DAs own understanding of the case which you somehow missed even though its plainly stated in the OP.


I didn't miss anything. There are specific aspects to the case which aren't clear, and you want to make it out to be cut and dry. Akagami_Shanks already brought up many of these points, which you conveniently ignored.

Once again the ONLY issue I have is you, thinking you're justified in attacking someone for asking a technical question when statements like this are literally in the OP:

"the victim's credibility was "seriously, seriously questionable"

it doesn't fucking matter if she suggested it
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meestermj
08/31/19 10:02:16 AM
#171:


karlpilkington4 posted...
It's not clear who offered initially.
Even if that's true (I disagree), they still accepted, abused their power, and did something disgusting.
They have a position of authority over her. Any sex act is sex by coercion, except they couldn't be charged as such because of an outdated and archaic law.

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karlpilkington4
08/31/19 10:06:06 AM
#172:


meestermj posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
It's not clear who offered initially.
Even if that's true (I disagree)



Based on what? Your first hand knowledge of the case?
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meestermj
08/31/19 10:11:54 AM
#174:


karlpilkington4 posted...
Based on what? Your first hand knowledge of the case?
Based on cynicism, the climate of police abuse within the country, and the simple act of decency that is believing the victim.
Edit: You yourself said it isn't cut and dry or clear. So why are you taking such a hypocritical stance of "she can't be trusted, she probably initiated"?

Edit 2: You also ignored the rest of my post. Rape by coercion is still rape, even if the victim initiated.

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biggernails
08/31/19 10:17:27 AM
#175:


if someone is pointing a gun at my head, and I say I'll pay them 1 million to not kill me and they accept, does that mean I was not threatened and taken advantage of?
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cjsdowg
08/31/19 10:18:03 AM
#176:


Danny Chun is a bastard.

I was going to say racist bastard but just seems to be a bastard in general.

He is the guy who let the cop who shot the black guy walking up steps go.
He also go life to a black kid who accidental killed someone when he was playing with matches. Even when he tried to warn people what happen. I mean both were mistakes but at least the black kid tried to help.
He also let people that beat a black man blind go with just probation.
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OctaviaMelody30
08/31/19 10:18:03 AM
#177:


These two were bad cops and they're no longer on the force.
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karlpilkington4
08/31/19 10:21:16 AM
#178:


meestermj posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
Based on what? Your first hand knowledge of the case?
Based on cynicism, the climate of police abuse within the country, and the simple act of decency that is believing the victim.
Edit: You yourself said it isn't cut and dry or clear. So why are you taking such a hypocritical stance of "she can't be trusted, she probably initiated"?

Edit 2: You also ignored the rest of my post. Rape by coercion is still rape, even if the victim initiated.


Cynicism, and random faith isn't enough to justify an actual decision in which you do not have any actual evidence to back it up.

I ignored the rest of your post because posting my actual thoughts no matter how civil, will get me modded. See first page for proof (another user asked a simple question and was modded)
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biggernails
08/31/19 10:21:51 AM
#179:


karlpilkington4 posted...
meestermj posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
Based on what? Your first hand knowledge of the case?
Based on cynicism, the climate of police abuse within the country, and the simple act of decency that is believing the victim.
Edit: You yourself said it isn't cut and dry or clear. So why are you taking such a hypocritical stance of "she can't be trusted, she probably initiated"?

Edit 2: You also ignored the rest of my post. Rape by coercion is still rape, even if the victim initiated.


Cynicism, and random faith isn't enough to justify an actual decision in which you do not have any actual evidence to back it up.

I ignored the rest of your post because posting my actual thoughts no matter how civil, will get me modded. See first page for proof.

IT DOES NOT MATTER IF SHE SUGGESTED IT
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Lyrica
08/31/19 10:21:55 AM
#180:


karlpilkington4 posted...
meestermj posted...
It's pretty clear from the article what happened.
> cops arrest girl
> cops offer release in exchange for sex
> cops bang girl, release her
The mere fact that they plead guilty speaks fucking volumes. They couldn't be charged for the sex act itself because of an antiquated law, but were charged with official misconduct (see: abuse of power) among other things.

They plead guilty.


It's not clear who offered initially.

This is why you get modded
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karlpilkington4
08/31/19 10:23:44 AM
#181:


Lyrica posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
meestermj posted...
It's pretty clear from the article what happened.
> cops arrest girl
> cops offer release in exchange for sex
> cops bang girl, release her
The mere fact that they plead guilty speaks fucking volumes. They couldn't be charged for the sex act itself because of an antiquated law, but were charged with official misconduct (see: abuse of power) among other things.

They plead guilty.


It's not clear who offered initially.

This is why you get modded


For pointing out a fact? lol
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karlpilkington4
08/31/19 10:24:55 AM
#182:


biggernails posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
meestermj posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
Based on what? Your first hand knowledge of the case?
Based on cynicism, the climate of police abuse within the country, and the simple act of decency that is believing the victim.
Edit: You yourself said it isn't cut and dry or clear. So why are you taking such a hypocritical stance of "she can't be trusted, she probably initiated"?

Edit 2: You also ignored the rest of my post. Rape by coercion is still rape, even if the victim initiated.


Cynicism, and random faith isn't enough to justify an actual decision in which you do not have any actual evidence to back it up.

I ignored the rest of your post because posting my actual thoughts no matter how civil, will get me modded. See first page for proof.

IT DOES NOT MATTER IF SHE SUGGESTED IT


Posting in caps is not necessary. It does not make your point any more persuasive.
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Lyrica
08/31/19 10:27:28 AM
#183:


karlpilkington4 posted...
Lyrica posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
meestermj posted...
It's pretty clear from the article what happened.
> cops arrest girl
> cops offer release in exchange for sex
> cops bang girl, release her
The mere fact that they plead guilty speaks fucking volumes. They couldn't be charged for the sex act itself because of an antiquated law, but were charged with official misconduct (see: abuse of power) among other things.

They plead guilty.


It's not clear who offered initially.

This is why you get modded


For pointing out a fact? lol

You're trying to victim blame. It does not matter if she offered to have sex; they still took advantage and raped her.
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meestermj
08/31/19 10:27:36 AM
#184:


karlpilkington4 posted...
For pointing out a fact? lol
So here's the thing you don't understand.
They plead guilty to having sex with her in exchange for letting her go.
They don't deny it, so why are you?

With that being said, it doesn't matter if she suggested it.
Read that again. Keep reading it until it sinks in.
It doesn't matter who suggested the exchange, it's still illegal.
What they did was abhorrent and a gross abuse of power. Which they admitted.

They simply got their sentence lowered by abusing an old, irrelevant, and disgusting law to say "We didn't rape her, she wanted it!"
Which she can not legally consent due to the power imbalance.

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biggernails
08/31/19 10:33:52 AM
#185:


I'm pretty sure that alt was Karl trying to bypass his bad rep of having disgusting points of view and acting like he's a victim if people are mean to him for doing so again.
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Shablagoo
08/31/19 10:36:05 AM
#186:


biggernails posted...
I'm pretty sure that alt was Karl trying to bypass his bad rep of having disgusting points of view and acting like he's a victim if people are mean to him for doing so again.


You are almost certainly right.
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biggernails
08/31/19 10:37:05 AM
#187:


Shablagoo posted...
biggernails posted...
I'm pretty sure that alt was Karl trying to bypass his bad rep of having disgusting points of view and acting like he's a victim if people are mean to him for doing so again.


You are almost certainly right.

most likely yeah
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Shablagoo
08/31/19 11:07:36 AM
#189:


hahahahahahahahaha I could see he was getting too close to the thin ice that sent his alt under the water but I wasnt sure if hed quite get there or not.
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biggernails
08/31/19 11:09:56 AM
#191:


Shablagoo posted...
hahahahahahahahaha I could see he was getting too close to the thin ice that sent his alt under the water but I wasnt sure if hed quite get there or not.

I mean it's just waayyy too coincidental for me to think it's just coincidence tbh
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TheDrivingForce
08/31/19 11:15:11 AM
#192:


biggernails posted...
IT DOES NOT MATTER IF SHE SUGGESTED IT
Uh, it kind of does homie.

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Shablagoo
08/31/19 11:19:23 AM
#194:


biggernails posted...
Shablagoo posted...
hahahahahahahahaha I could see he was getting too close to the thin ice that sent his alt under the water but I wasnt sure if hed quite get there or not.

I mean it's just waayyy too coincidental for me to think it's just coincidence tbh


Yeah it was shockingly transparent. I just love how he truly tried to avoid getting pilkington suspended but in the end was wayy too enthusiastic about bootlicking to avoid it lmfao
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meestermj
08/31/19 11:19:36 AM
#195:


TheDrivingForce posted...
Uh, it kind of does homie.
Legally, it does not.
They are in a position of power over her (literally have her in handcuffs, and could possibly send her to jail).
Rape by coercion is still rape.

I can not believe that needs to be fucking said.

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AwesomeToTheMAX
08/31/19 11:20:49 AM
#196:


Looks like we're about to have a third suspension
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TheDrivingForce
08/31/19 11:25:53 AM
#197:


meestermj posted...
Legally, it does not.
They are in a position of power over her (literally have her in handcuffs, and could possibly send her to jail).
Rape by coercion is still rape.

I can not believe that needs to be fucking said.
No, I meant in general. If a girl you met at a party, suggested to have sex, and you did, and later on say you raped her, it does matter. It matters a whole lot, especially if you can prove it.

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Shablagoo
08/31/19 11:27:07 AM
#198:


AwesomeToTheMAX posted...
Looks like we're about to have a third suspension


Who knew all we had to do to get all the bootlickers suspended was make a topic saying something absolutely reprehensible is absolutely reprehensible.
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Shablagoo
08/31/19 11:27:40 AM
#199:


TheDrivingForce posted...
meestermj posted...
Legally, it does not.
They are in a position of power over her (literally have her in handcuffs, and could possibly send her to jail).
Rape by coercion is still rape.

I can not believe that needs to be fucking said.
No, I meant in general. If a girl you met at a party, suggested to have sex, and you did, and later on say you raped her, it does matter. It matters a whole lot, especially if you can prove it.


What in the fuck does that have to do with this topic?
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08/31/19 11:27:59 AM
#200:


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TheDrivingForce
08/31/19 11:28:59 AM
#201:


Shablagoo posted...
What in the fuck does that have to do with this topic?
All I saw was someone quoted "IT DOES NOT MATTER IF SHE SUGGESTED IT"

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HollowKnail
08/31/19 11:29:40 AM
#202:


TheDrivingForce posted...
Shablagoo posted...
What in the fuck does that have to do with this topic?
All I saw was someone quoted "IT DOES NOT MATTER IF SHE SUGGESTED IT"

it is not a comparable scenario
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