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Corrik7
05/29/19 2:02:59 PM
#101:


Scare and Crescent were all praising your reads all game, Sultan. Just not your ability to make them become lynches. You lacked confidence in them it seemed. Just gotta take the next step. You can play mafia. And not get caught up with cam situation. I felt like you were more going after him because he annoyed you than you thought he was scum. I think if you coulda pulled off the blinders you woulda saw he had to be town.
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Crescent-Moon
05/29/19 2:03:35 PM
#102:


Lolo_Guru posted...
Anyway, sorry about replacing out. Was recovering from bronchitis, and slept that whole day away.

I'm definitely starting to come down with something, just don't think it's something that bad.

It's so quiet here today though. Everyone did their shopping for Memorial Day Weekend and almost no one's here today.
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ScareChan
05/29/19 2:04:17 PM
#103:


UltimaterializerX posted...
I know good scum play never gets credit and its always towns fault, but we played REALLY well as a team. Wait until you guys read our chat.

We also literally all got flavor that fit our personalities. It was nuts. I was not going to lose a game where I rolled literal Thanos of all people. That miller gambit was so good. There was a godfather on the team and one counter means I die on day one. Too good. Wasnt even an MVP because the whole team played so well.

Thats why you just kill me day one always, bee tee dubs. The one disagreement my team had was me strongman on Red. I am of a firm belief that power players and good activity win games, not power roles. Removing Red and Han were necessary. It killed all the people who would have actually been able to lead mislynches.


Yeah I expected this team to be a trainwreck but everyone played well togetherand got along well. Very proud
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TheSultanOfSlam
05/29/19 2:04:52 PM
#104:


Corrik7 posted...
Scare and Crescent were all praising your reads all game, Sultan. Just not your ability to make them become lynches. You lacked confidence in them it seemed. Just gotta take the next step. You can play mafia. And not get caught up with cam situation. I felt like you were more going after him because he annoyed you than you thought he was scum. I think if you coulda pulled off the blinders you woulda saw he had to be town.


Youre probably right corrik sorry for being mean just frustrated i guess i kept trying to lwt the cam thing go more time move in the more it kept bothering me
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turbopuns3
05/29/19 2:07:32 PM
#105:


Sultan my 2 cents on how to increase your impact is to just use fewer words in general. It's more effective if you just cut straight to the point without a lot of extra explaining and hand waving.
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turbopuns3
05/29/19 2:08:54 PM
#106:


Corrik7 posted...
I felt he should have been told his power was disabled until an event happened that he would know what it was when it happened. Imo


That works, too. Just, yeah being in the dark about the fact his role had no function is kind of a dick move no offense Nana lol
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TheSultanOfSlam
05/29/19 2:10:10 PM
#107:


turbopuns3 posted...
Sultan my 2 cents on how to increase your impact is to just use fewer words in general. It's more effective if you just cut straight to the point without a lot of extra explaining and hand waving.

Alright ill keep that in mind
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ScareChan
05/29/19 2:12:43 PM
#108:


I think I sold the 'confirm' pretty hard cam, you probably catch me if I dont gg
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turbopuns3
05/29/19 2:12:58 PM
#109:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
turbopuns3 posted...
Sultan my 2 cents on how to increase your impact is to just use fewer words in general. It's more effective if you just cut straight to the point without a lot of extra explaining and hand waving.

Alright ill keep that in mind


It also gives scum like Corrik less to use against you. Like if you write up a big post then there's more little pieces scum can just pick out and twist and distract from the main point.

If you just say "Corrik is scum because he refused to vote Ulti" then there's no real way to reply to that post with acknowledging the main point. (I mean they can dodge the point entirely but then you have more scummy behavior to call out)
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turbopuns3
05/29/19 2:15:38 PM
#110:


ScareChan posted...
I think I sold the 'confirm' pretty hard cam, you probably catch me if I dont gg


*exhales heavily through nose*
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IfGodCouldDie
05/29/19 2:19:55 PM
#111:


I feel was this uncharacteristically unbalanced for a Nana game. This felt like a game I would have balanced when i started hosting.
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Crescent-Moon
05/29/19 2:22:09 PM
#112:


ScareChan posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
I know good scum play never gets credit and its always towns fault, but we played REALLY well as a team. Wait until you guys read our chat.

We also literally all got flavor that fit our personalities. It was nuts. I was not going to lose a game where I rolled literal Thanos of all people. That miller gambit was so good. There was a godfather on the team and one counter means I die on day one. Too good. Wasnt even an MVP because the whole team played so well.

Thats why you just kill me day one always, bee tee dubs. The one disagreement my team had was me strongman on Red. I am of a firm belief that power players and good activity win games, not power roles. Removing Red and Han were necessary. It killed all the people who would have actually been able to lead mislynches.


Yeah I expected this team to be a trainwreck but everyone played well togetherand got along well. Very proud

I think we all expected something horrible.
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MartinFF7
05/29/19 2:27:23 PM
#113:


I still cant get over Town Thanos claim day 1, all day 1 deaths are Town heroes, makes no sense for Thanos to be on same team as them... really should've triggered more scrutiny
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Corrik7
05/29/19 2:28:00 PM
#114:


MartinFF7 posted...
I still cant get over Town Thanos claim day 1, all day 1 deaths are Town heroes, makes no sense for Thanos to be on same team as them... really should've triggered more scrutiny

It made absolutely zero sense. I did my best to keep yelling this so they wouldn't listen to me.

Especially after how much they sat their and talked about neighbor scum flavor having to make sense.
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eaedwards6400
05/29/19 2:28:46 PM
#115:


MartinFF7 posted...
I still cant get over Town Thanos claim day 1, all day 1 deaths are Town heroes, makes no sense for Thanos to be on same team as them... really should've triggered more scrutiny


He literally had a guy who didn't have a name as a character. The flavor meta made little sense. HB lucked out too that Cap was A. not on the town list B. Thor flipped Vanilla.
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turbopuns3
05/29/19 2:30:12 PM
#116:


MartinFF7 posted...
I still cant get over Town Thanos claim day 1, all day 1 deaths are Town heroes, makes no sense for Thanos to be on same team as them... really should've triggered more scrutiny


Armchair mafia is fun!

/s

In reality, there's plenty of historical justification for how the flavor could have existed with Thanos as town miller. It would have become more obvious potentially if we saw other mafia flip, but it didn't get to that point.

It's incredibly easy to sit back and call stuff out when you've got no skin in the game. Also easy to call town idiots when you're mafia and are working with all the information. Corrik's favorite pastime. :)
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Corrik7
05/29/19 2:30:40 PM
#117:


turbopuns3 posted...
MartinFF7 posted...
I still cant get over Town Thanos claim day 1, all day 1 deaths are Town heroes, makes no sense for Thanos to be on same team as them... really should've triggered more scrutiny


Armchair mafia is fun!

/s

In reality, there's plenty of historical justification for how the flavor could have existed with Thanos as town miller. It would have become more obvious potentially if we saw other mafia flip, but it didn't get to that point.

It's incredibly easy to sit back and call stuff out when you've got no skin in the game. Also easy to call town idiots when you're mafia and are working with all the information. Corrik's favorite pastime. :)

Maybe you should listen to me more then!
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turbopuns3
05/29/19 2:32:00 PM
#118:


Corrik7 posted...
Maybe you should listen to me more then!


I mean your refusal to lynch Ulti is what put you on my scum list, and we were a couple misguided last second votes from lynching your godfather day 1 despite not lynching Ulti, so, I think it was fine!
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Crescent-Moon
05/29/19 2:32:08 PM
#119:


MartinFF7 posted...
I still cant get over Town Thanos claim day 1, all day 1 deaths are Town heroes, makes no sense for Thanos to be on same team as them... really should've triggered more scrutiny

I was sure almost the entire second day that people would just pile Ulti up eventually and that would be it.
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eaedwards6400
05/29/19 2:32:10 PM
#120:


Ulti's gloating is a little more bearable than I thought it would be.
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Nanahara715
05/29/19 2:32:47 PM
#121:


eaedwards6400 posted...
MartinFF7 posted...
I still cant get over Town Thanos claim day 1, all day 1 deaths are Town heroes, makes no sense for Thanos to be on same team as them... really should've triggered more scrutiny


He literally had a guy who didn't have a name as a character. The flavor meta made little sense. HB lucked out too that Cap was A. not on the town list B. Thor flipped Vanilla.


It's not really luck that Cap wasn't on the town list; it was an intentional decision by the host. Cap was on the safelist.
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Obellisk
05/29/19 2:33:15 PM
#122:


Good game scum.

I did scan you Corrik, just too late.
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Crescent-Moon
05/29/19 2:33:54 PM
#123:


eaedwards6400 posted...
MartinFF7 posted...
I still cant get over Town Thanos claim day 1, all day 1 deaths are Town heroes, makes no sense for Thanos to be on same team as them... really should've triggered more scrutiny


He literally had a guy who didn't have a name as a character. The flavor meta made little sense. HB lucked out too that Cap was A. not on the town list B. Thor flipped Vanilla.

Other Cap was safelist. He was Cap and claimed a different Cap.

If Ben just full claims I don't think he gets lynched though.
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Corrik7
05/29/19 2:34:14 PM
#124:


Obellisk posted...
Good game scum.

I did scan you Corrik, just too late.

Hehe.
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MartinFF7
05/29/19 2:34:35 PM
#125:


turbo, I meant no disrespect. Just meta overthinking on my part which you're right, may not always play out.

I thought the Daisy claim was bs since she wasnt even in Endgame!
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Crescent-Moon
05/29/19 2:34:39 PM
#126:


eaedwards6400 posted...
Ulti's gloating is a little more bearable than I thought it would be.

He was surprisingly "nice" in the scumchat.
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Corrik7
05/29/19 2:35:10 PM
#127:


turbopuns3 posted...
Corrik7 posted...
Maybe you should listen to me more then!


I mean your refusal to lynch Ulti is what put you on my scum list, and we were a couple misguided last second votes from lynching your godfather day 1 despite not lynching Ulti, so, I think it was fine!

For some reason, people found me scum for that but still found ulti town. It perplexed me to say the least.
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ScareChan
05/29/19 2:35:46 PM
#128:


Sbell was my favorite kill because we all said "okay who can actually turn the game around" and we all just said sbell and said ok that's the kill lol
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Corrik7
05/29/19 2:36:46 PM
#129:


I liked when Ulti said I can pick the kill night 2 cuz he did night 1. And, I said "Sbell"

He was just like "absolutely brilliant"
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Lopen
05/29/19 2:37:08 PM
#130:


Well just because you're not in the game doesn't automatically make observations invalid

At the same time if a play worked in the environment of the game then it was the right play. Or at least, wasn't the wrong one.

I kinda expected the mafia team to be infinity stones. Then again mafia team wouldn't be hyped to be the soul stone I guess
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Obellisk
05/29/19 2:37:27 PM
#131:


ScareChan posted...
Sbell was my favorite kill because we all said "okay who can actually turn the game around" and we all just said sbell and said ok that's the kill lol


Lol. I felt discouraged after settling on Han as my first scan and then him dying. My day 2 showed it.

I was ready to power through day 3 and turn it all around.

Dicks.

:)

Scare I never would have lynched you till near end. I should start learning you better.
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ScareChan
05/29/19 2:38:55 PM
#132:


I mix it up a fair amount but there's some tells to my game sure
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turbopuns3
05/29/19 2:39:57 PM
#133:


MartinFF7 posted...
turbo, I meant no disrespect. Just meta overthinking on my part which you're right, may not always play out.

I thought the Daisy claim was bs since she wasnt even in Endgame!


I know you didn't, I was just responding by pointing out when you're in the game you have a different perspective.
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turbopuns3
05/29/19 2:42:46 PM
#134:


Lopen posted...
Well just because you're not in the game doesn't automatically make observations invalid

At the same time if a play worked in the environment of the game then it was the right play. Or at least, wasn't the wrong one.


We had this same conversation last time you entered post game chat in a game I played, lol.

No, being an outsider doesn't make all your observations invalid, but in this particular case I think it does.

That said, I haven't even seen the movie so I probably shouldn't try to take a stance on flavor. :x
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ShatteredElysium
05/29/19 2:44:21 PM
#135:


Man, I was only briefly reading so I may have missed huge chunks but I couldn't believe Ulti claimed Thanos and you didn't lynch him. Like I half expected him to have some sort of ability that activated if he died Day 1 because of him claiming Thanos. I assume he didn't as that would punish town for lynching correct but it was the only thing I could think of when someone claims literal Thanos
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Crescent-Moon
05/29/19 2:51:41 PM
#136:


Corrik7 posted...
I liked when Ulti said I can pick the kill night 2 cuz he did night 1. And, I said "Sbell"

He was just like "absolutely brilliant"

It also helps that we thought he was cop and... He was cop.
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ScareChan
05/29/19 2:53:02 PM
#137:


Also someone said were dancing on towns bones

Please do not offend us

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcXMXo0UtgA" data-time="


Skip to 4 minutes because were dancing on your graveee
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Lopen
05/29/19 2:56:38 PM
#138:


turbopuns3 posted...
No, being an outsider doesn't make all your observations invalid, but in this particular case I think it does.


I think you're just bad with criticism in general tbh given you do this every time!
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ShatteredElysium
05/29/19 2:56:54 PM
#139:


ShatteredElysium posted...
Man, I was only briefly reading so I may have missed huge chunks but I couldn't believe Ulti claimed Thanos and you didn't lynch him. Like I half expected him to have some sort of ability that activated if he died Day 1 because of him claiming Thanos. I assume he didn't as that would punish town for lynching correct but it was the only thing I could think of when someone claims literal Thanos


Oh I see this has already been covered elsewhere in the thread. I dunno, I just expected that to get lynched because day 1 with not a whole lot to go on and worst case he flips miller.
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turbopuns3
05/29/19 2:58:19 PM
#140:


Corrik7 posted...
turbopuns3 posted...
Corrik7 posted...
Maybe you should listen to me more then!


I mean your refusal to lynch Ulti is what put you on my scum list, and we were a couple misguided last second votes from lynching your godfather day 1 despite not lynching Ulti, so, I think it was fine!

For some reason, people found me scum for that but still found ulti town. It perplexed me to say the least.


Well it stands to reason. In that scenario your behavior is scummy regardless of whether Ulti is town or scum. If Ulti is scum, you don't want to lynch him because he's your teammate. If Ulti is town, you don't want to lynch him because you can get away with mislynching Ben and still have Ulti as a fallback the next day.

The only thing to ever make me think Ulti could be town was his own play, not yours.
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Crescent-Moon
05/29/19 2:59:29 PM
#141:


ShatteredElysium posted...
ShatteredElysium posted...
Man, I was only briefly reading so I may have missed huge chunks but I couldn't believe Ulti claimed Thanos and you didn't lynch him. Like I half expected him to have some sort of ability that activated if he died Day 1 because of him claiming Thanos. I assume he didn't as that would punish town for lynching correct but it was the only thing I could think of when someone claims literal Thanos


Oh I see this has already been covered elsewhere in the thread. I dunno, I just expected that to get lynched because day 1 with not a whole lot to go on and worst case he flips miller.

Tange's lynch was totally a punishment for acting in bad faith as opposed to a genuine scumhunt.
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turbopuns3
05/29/19 3:00:08 PM
#142:


Lopen posted...
turbopuns3 posted...
No, being an outsider doesn't make all your observations invalid, but in this particular case I think it does.


I think you're just bad with criticism in general tbh given you do this every time!


This was an event that occurred like 2 years ago at least lol

It's also true that armchair mafia is a common fallacy people make so /shrug
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banananor
05/29/19 3:01:03 PM
#144:


when is the last time town won
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Leafeon13N
05/29/19 3:03:10 PM
#145:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Corrik also played OUT OF HIS MIND. It was a pleasure being his teammate.


Han and i both left day 1 having said corrik was scum and it got ignored.
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Crescent-Moon
05/29/19 3:03:52 PM
#146:


banananor posted...
when is the last time town won

It won the last game I played by lynching a scum Lawyer (technically a Jack with a Lawyer) at lylo. I don't remember when this was though.
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Corrik7
05/29/19 3:05:32 PM
#147:


Leafeon13N posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Corrik also played OUT OF HIS MIND. It was a pleasure being his teammate.


Han and i both left day 1 having said corrik was scum and it got ignored.

Actually Puns said this was his reasoning for doing the Ulti/me thing on day 2.
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Leafeon13N
05/29/19 3:06:46 PM
#149:


Corrik7 posted...
Leafeon13N posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Corrik also played OUT OF HIS MIND. It was a pleasure being his teammate.


Han and i both left day 1 having said corrik was scum and it got ignored.

Actually Puns said this was his reasoning for doing the Ulti/me thing on day 2.


Yeah i said it in the other topic. Puns was the only one that didn't ignore us.
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