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Phantom_Nook
06/24/17 10:50:50 PM
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Or "Obama wiretapped me"?

Or were they just more lies as usual?
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Irony
06/24/17 10:51:30 PM
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Yeah
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UnholyMudcrab
06/24/17 10:51:54 PM
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Manocheese
06/24/17 10:52:38 PM
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Did liberals ever prove that Trump colluded with Russia or assaulted women?
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JAMC
06/24/17 10:56:03 PM
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Manocheese posted...
Did liberals ever prove that Trump colluded with Russia or assaulted women?


The FBI is currently in the stage of proving Russian collusion. The investigation has grown, which obviously means evidence. If there was no evidence, the investigation would shrink and inevitably end.

Blows my mind how people say "there is no evidence" based purely on the fact that they are private citizen #200533, Joe Nobody and haven't personally seen evidence.
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Mikablu
06/24/17 10:56:15 PM
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Manocheese posted...
Did liberals ever prove that Trump colluded with Russia

Trump essentially proved that himself with a Tweet today.
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Axiom
06/24/17 10:56:53 PM
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Of course not. Doesn't stop his dumb supporters from claiming it with absolutely nothing to back it up
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TheVipaGTS
06/24/17 10:57:26 PM
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No but he doesn't have to prove anything to his braindead supporters.
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davyheinz
06/24/17 10:57:51 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
A study was done that proved 5.7 million illegal votes bare minimum.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/19/noncitizen-illegal-vote-number-higher-than-estimat/


Lmao, this tripe again

"proof"
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gunplagirl
06/24/17 10:58:27 PM
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Manocheese posted...
Did liberals ever prove that Trump colluded with Russia or assaulted women?

Trump admitted to assaulting women

And based off Trump's fox news "Obama knew about Russia and didn't do anything to stop it" he's confirmed Russia did stuff. The fact so many of his staffers and the like have been connected already point at a larger scheme that all falls heavily upon trump
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JAMC
06/24/17 10:59:03 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
A study was done that proved 5.7 million illegal votes bare minimum.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/19/noncitizen-illegal-vote-number-higher-than-estimat/


Too bad that is false.

http://www.snopes.com/illegal-immigrants-2008-election/

No surprise though, conservative news outlets sharing bad info... Or "FAKE NEWS!!!"
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Ray_Dorset
06/24/17 10:59:39 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
A study was done that proved 5.7 million illegal votes bare minimum.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/19/noncitizen-illegal-vote-number-higher-than-estimat/


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Tmaster148
06/24/17 11:00:29 PM
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JAMC posted...
Manocheese posted...
Did liberals ever prove that Trump colluded with Russia or assaulted women?


The FBI is currently in the stage of proving Russian collusion. The investigation has grown, which obviously means evidence. If there was no evidence, the investigation would shrink and inevitably end.

Blows my mind how people say "there is no evidence" based purely on the fact that they are private citizen #200533, Joe Nobody and haven't personally seen evidence.


It's also funny, because they'll assume anyone on the other side under investigation is automatically guilty, but if it's their guy they are always innocent.
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JAMC
06/24/17 11:03:30 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
JAMC posted...
Manocheese posted...
Did liberals ever prove that Trump colluded with Russia or assaulted women?


The FBI is currently in the stage of proving Russian collusion. The investigation has grown, which obviously means evidence. If there was no evidence, the investigation would shrink and inevitably end.

Blows my mind how people say "there is no evidence" based purely on the fact that they are private citizen #200533, Joe Nobody and haven't personally seen evidence.


It's also funny, because they'll assume anyone on the other side under investigation is automatically guilty, but if it's their guy they are always innocent.


They literally wanted Hillary jailed because of how she handled her emails.

Undermining the American system of democracy? No biggie in their book, apparently. "But we involve ourselves in other countries elections!"

Literally making an excuse for Russia's attack on our electoral system.
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Bloodychess
06/24/17 11:05:29 PM
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JAMC posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
A study was done that proved 5.7 million illegal votes bare minimum.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/19/noncitizen-illegal-vote-number-higher-than-estimat/


Too bad that is false.

http://www.snopes.com/illegal-immigrants-2008-election/

No surprise though, conservative news outlets sharing bad info... Or "FAKE NEWS!!!"


https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2016/12/22/the-daily-mail-snopes-story-and-fact-checking-the-fact-checkers/

Liberals still cling to Snopes like it's valid
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Schwarber
06/24/17 11:08:37 PM
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Yes, right after he proved that Obama is a Kenyan born Muslim.
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JAMC
06/24/17 11:08:48 PM
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Bloodychess posted...
JAMC posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
A study was done that proved 5.7 million illegal votes bare minimum.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/19/noncitizen-illegal-vote-number-higher-than-estimat/


Too bad that is false.

http://www.snopes.com/illegal-immigrants-2008-election/

No surprise though, conservative news outlets sharing bad info... Or "FAKE NEWS!!!"


https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2016/12/22/the-daily-mail-snopes-story-and-fact-checking-the-fact-checkers/

Liberals still cling to Snopes like it's valid


Your link in no way proves that their well-sourced conclusion to the story we are actually talking about is wrong.
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CableZL
06/24/17 11:09:46 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
A study was done that proved 5.7 million illegal votes bare minimum.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/19/noncitizen-illegal-vote-number-higher-than-estimat/


"that proved 5.7 million illegal votes bare minimum"

That study doesn't prove anything.

1. As many as 5.7 million noncitizens may have voted in the 2008 election
- "As many as" 5.7 million non-citizens may have voted, which means the high estimate in this study is 5.7 million, not the minimum. It's also talking about the 2008 election, not the 2016 election. It's still offering no proof of the allegation.

2. He estimated that as many as 7.9 million noncitizens were illegally registered that year and 594,000 to 5.7 million voted.
- When you have no facts, just provide a big ass range to try to cover your bases. 594,000 to 5.7 million? Ridiculous.
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Zack_Attackv1
06/24/17 11:10:20 PM
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TheoryzC
06/24/17 11:12:11 PM
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His use of scare quotes cracks me up
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frozenshock
06/24/17 11:12:38 PM
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Zack_Attackv1 posted...
Does the Pope shit in the woods?


I've seen her many times.
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Anteaterking
06/24/17 11:13:25 PM
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CableZL posted...
2. He estimated that as many as 7.9 million noncitizens were illegally registered that year and 594,000 to 5.7 million voted.
- When you have no facts, just provide a big ass range to try to cover your bases. 594,000 to 5.7 million? Ridiculous.


It's already ridiculous that the range spans an order of magnitude, but in addition the 594,000 isn't even remotely "proven" either.
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JAMC
06/24/17 11:14:52 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
CableZL posted...
2. He estimated that as many as 7.9 million noncitizens were illegally registered that year and 594,000 to 5.7 million voted.
- When you have no facts, just provide a big ass range to try to cover your bases. 594,000 to 5.7 million? Ridiculous.


It's already ridiculous that the range spans an order of magnitude, but in addition the 594,000 isn't even remotely "proven" either.


The Washington Times is not the worst conservative outlet by far, but they may have jumped the shark by publishing this easily debunked bullshit.
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marc55
06/24/17 11:26:50 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
CableZL posted...
2. He estimated that as many as 7.9 million noncitizens were illegally registered that year and 594,000 to 5.7 million voted.
- When you have no facts, just provide a big ass range to try to cover your bases. 594,000 to 5.7 million? Ridiculous.


It's already ridiculous that the range spans an order of magnitude, but in addition the 594,000 isn't even remotely "proven" either.


and its on the 2008 ellection.........and knowing obama deported 3 millions they could been all deported!
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Lorenzo_2003
06/24/17 11:31:20 PM
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Bloodychess posted...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2016/12/22/the-daily-mail-snopes-story-and-fact-checking-the-fact-checkers/

Liberals still cling to Snopes like it's valid


That was an interesting read. My big take-away is that Snopes should demonstrate more transparency, if we are going to continue to treat their word as a gospel of unassailable truths. To be fair, their analysis of the illegal votes claim could very well be accurate.
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JAMC
06/24/17 11:34:49 PM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Bloodychess posted...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2016/12/22/the-daily-mail-snopes-story-and-fact-checking-the-fact-checkers/

Liberals still cling to Snopes like it's valid


That was an interesting read. My big take-away is that Snopes should demonstrate more transparency, if we are going to continue to treat their word as a gospel of unassailable truths. To be fair, their analysis of the illegal votes claim could very well be accurate.


It is indeed accurate. If anyone wishes to challenge their findings, I would love to hear the counter evidence to their conclusion.
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UItimaterializer
06/24/17 11:41:39 PM
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CableZL posted...
It's also talking about the 2008 election, not the 2016 election. It's still offering no proof of the allegation.

Yes because illegals would have no reason whatsoever to vote against Trump eight years later.

Common sense. Find some.
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Lorenzo_2003
06/24/17 11:41:54 PM
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JAMC posted...

It is indeed accurate. If anyone wishes to challenge their findings, I would love to hear the counter evidence to their conclusion.


Thanks, JAMC. I will read more on this subject because it seems to come up frequently.
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CableZL
06/24/17 11:46:41 PM
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UItimaterializer posted...
CableZL posted...
It's also talking about the 2008 election, not the 2016 election. It's still offering no proof of the allegation.

Yes because illegals would have no reason whatsoever to vote against Trump eight years later.

Common sense. Find some.


I think it's amazing that people who can't offer up any proof of their claim of widespread voter fraud are accusing anyone of not having common sense. If you make a claim, it's up to you to prove that claim.
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JAMC
06/24/17 11:52:24 PM
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UItimaterializer posted...
CableZL posted...
It's also talking about the 2008 election, not the 2016 election. It's still offering no proof of the allegation.

Yes because illegals would have no reason whatsoever to vote against Trump eight years later.

Common sense. Find some.


I would love for you to explain how illegal aliens vote in America.
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Ultii
06/24/17 11:54:07 PM
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lmao I was suspended for that post, which had literally nothing wrong with it?

I will happily leave this site and go enjoy forums that aren't complete and total nonsense. Good riddance to this place if no one can have any opinion outside the far left without getting banned on the spot, no matter how well written or inoffensive it is. Not at all what I came here for, and I can't even imagine the thousands upon thousands that have up and left this place for reddit at this point for a similar reason.
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Bio1590
06/24/17 11:55:12 PM
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Ultii posted...
lmao I was suspended for that post, which had literally nothing wrong with it?

I will happily leave this site and go enjoy forums that aren't complete and total nonsense. Good riddance to this place if no one can have any opinion outside the far left without getting banned on the spot, no matter how well written or inoffensive it is. Not at all what I came here for, and I can't even imagine the thousands upon thousands that have up and left this place for reddit at this point for a similar reason.

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Axiom
06/24/17 11:56:50 PM
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No one cares if you stay or go
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JAMC
06/24/17 11:57:21 PM
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Ultii posted...
lmao I was suspended for that post, which had literally nothing wrong with it?

I will happily leave this site and go enjoy forums that aren't complete and total nonsense. Good riddance to this place if no one can have any opinion outside the far left without getting banned on the spot, no matter how well written or inoffensive it is. Not at all what I came here for, and I can't even imagine the thousands upon thousands that have up and left this place for reddit at this point for a similar reason.


Could you re-word your post so it is safe for CE? Missed it.
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Anteaterking
06/24/17 11:58:40 PM
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JAMC posted...
Ultii posted...
lmao I was suspended for that post, which had literally nothing wrong with it?

I will happily leave this site and go enjoy forums that aren't complete and total nonsense. Good riddance to this place if no one can have any opinion outside the far left without getting banned on the spot, no matter how well written or inoffensive it is. Not at all what I came here for, and I can't even imagine the thousands upon thousands that have up and left this place for reddit at this point for a similar reason.


Could you re-word your post so it is safe for CE? Missed it.


It was his link to the 5.7 million illegals "study".
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Polycosm
06/25/17 12:01:28 AM
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Meanwhile, somewhere in the Hawaiian islands an investigator has been vacationing for 5 years on his per diem allowance.

"We're getting close to finding the forged birth certificate, Mr. Trump. Any day now..."
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billcom6
06/25/17 12:02:49 AM
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He ENDED the birther controversy!!!!!!!
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JAMC
06/25/17 12:04:42 AM
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Anteaterking posted...
JAMC posted...
Ultii posted...
lmao I was suspended for that post, which had literally nothing wrong with it?

I will happily leave this site and go enjoy forums that aren't complete and total nonsense. Good riddance to this place if no one can have any opinion outside the far left without getting banned on the spot, no matter how well written or inoffensive it is. Not at all what I came here for, and I can't even imagine the thousands upon thousands that have up and left this place for reddit at this point for a similar reason.


Could you re-word your post so it is safe for CE? Missed it.


It was his link to the 5.7 million illegals "study".


Just a link to the study? Shit, the study is false but I didn't realize fake news gets you a mod these days.
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AheadOfTheCurve
06/25/17 12:05:32 AM
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It was a link to an online newspaper, which I would assume is allowed given the site isn't autoflagged on here or anything. Verified on twitter and everything. Oh well.
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muchdran
06/25/17 12:06:40 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Manocheese posted...
Did liberals ever prove that Trump colluded with Russia or assaulted women?

Trump admitted to assaulting women

And based off Trump's fox news "Obama knew about Russia and didn't do anything to stop it" he's confirmed Russia did stuff. The fact so many of his staffers and the like have been connected already point at a larger scheme that all falls heavily upon trump

Trump said something everybody says, shit how old are you?
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CableZL
06/25/17 12:07:06 AM
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JAMC posted...
Just a link to the study? s***, the study is false but I didn't realize fake news gets you a mod these days.


Posting false information as fact has been moddable for a long time on this site.
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billcom6
06/25/17 12:07:36 AM
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muchdran posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Manocheese posted...
Did liberals ever prove that Trump colluded with Russia or assaulted women?

Trump admitted to assaulting women

And based off Trump's fox news "Obama knew about Russia and didn't do anything to stop it" he's confirmed Russia did stuff. The fact so many of his staffers and the like have been connected already point at a larger scheme that all falls heavily upon trump

Trump said something everybody says, shit how old are you?

Seriously, which one of us hasn't claimed we regularly assault women to try and seem cool in front of Billy Bush?
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JAMC
06/25/17 12:07:45 AM
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AheadOfTheCurve posted...
It was a link to an online newspaper, which I would assume is allowed given the site isn't autoflagged on here or anything. Verified on twitter and everything. Oh well.


Not going to lie, the article is dumb and wrong, but it wasn't from 4chan or something.
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Webmaster4531
06/25/17 12:07:52 AM
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Fake news should get you a mod. Trolling is a report option for a reason.

Edit: -1 shitposter. Good Job Gamefaqs.
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JAMC
06/25/17 12:08:26 AM
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CableZL posted...
JAMC posted...
Just a link to the study? s***, the study is false but I didn't realize fake news gets you a mod these days.


Posting false information as fact has been moddable for a long time on this site.


Oh shit. I never post false info so never realized.
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Axiom
06/25/17 12:11:02 AM
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JAMC posted...
CableZL posted...
JAMC posted...
Just a link to the study? s***, the study is false but I didn't realize fake news gets you a mod these days.


Posting false information as fact has been moddable for a long time on this site.


Oh shit. I never post false info so never realized.

I didn't realize it either until another topic got modded for the exact same reason awhile ago. I guess it's because no one thinks to mark fake news but yeah it makes sense that it counts as trolling
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AheadOfTheCurve
06/25/17 12:13:16 AM
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CableZL posted...
Posting false information as fact has been moddable for a long time on this site.

It isn't GameFAQs' job to decide what is and is not accurate in the news media. This is a site about video games.

Webmaster4531 posted...
Fake news should get you a mod. Trolling is a report option for a reason.

Edit: -1 shitposter. Good Job Gamefaqs.

Yeah I've totally been on this site for 20 years because I hate people. Sure.
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CableZL
06/25/17 12:15:07 AM
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AheadOfTheCurve posted...
It isn't GameFAQs' job to decide what is and is not accurate in the news media. This is a site about video games.


His representation of the link he posted wasn't even accurate. He said the study "proved 5.7 million votes bare minimum" while the article said 5.7 million was the high end of the estimate. Not to mention the fact that no proof of actual voter fraud is actually provided in the link.
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Schwarber
06/25/17 12:15:09 AM
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Webmaster4531
06/25/17 12:18:54 AM
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AheadOfTheCurve posted...
Yeah I've totally been on this site for 20 years because I hate people. Sure.

Ok...


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