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Topic	Blonde Girl BAITED Thieves and then BEAT THEM with ALUMINUM BATS!!!
adjl 01/14/20 10:34:29 AM #48:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Laws are for appeasing society, everything else is incidental. Then shall we have laws that mandate free cookie dispensers on every corner? That would make society pretty happy, I would think. Kyuubi4269 posted... It is not, the presumption is that anybody could be a murderer and a gun is useful if that situation appears. That's... what I just said. I'll take that as you conceding my point. Kyuubi4269 posted... All harmless for the most part. You know, except when people literally die, which isn't usually a consequence of bike theft. If petty theft - a crime whose harm can usually be completely mitigated by insurance - is going to carry the death penalty, then speeding - a crime which contributes to thousands of deaths every year in America - absolutely should. Kyuubi4269 posted... Thieves are garbage and fair game for abuse, that's the line. Did you not read the part where I said you need a set of logical principles to guide your line-drawing, or did you not understand it? Because being challenged to provide a set of logical decision-making principles and then just restating your arbitrary position means one of those two things happened, and I need to know which one so that I know whether you need education or just to be ignored because you're not interested in anything more than childish stonewalling. zebatov posted... Or maybe they should have just done a citizens arrest on them instead of attacking them. They really should have. Obviously, these thieves are in fact criminals who deserve to face justice for their crimes. Assaulting them, however, is not that justice, because vigilante violence is a terrible way to allow a society to be run. Film the incident and citizen's arrest them, then hand them over to the police. If these people aren't willing to do their due diligence to ensure due process is followed, there's no reason to treat them as anything more than people who've watched too many Batman movies. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:932910930] in Blonde Gir... [t:78326457]...</cite> <quote>Kyuubi4269 posted... </cite> <quote>Laws are for appeasing society, everything else is incidental.</quote> Then shall we have laws that mandate free cookie dispensers on every corner? That would make society pretty happy, I would think. Kyuubi4269 posted... </cite> <quote>It is not, the presumption is that anybody could be a murderer and a gun is useful if that situation appears.</quote> That's... what I just said. I'll take that as you conceding my point. Kyuubi4269 posted... </cite> <quote>All harmless for the most part.</quote> You know, except when people literally die, which isn't usually a consequence of bike theft. If petty theft - a crime whose harm can usually be completely mitigated by insurance - is going to carry the death penalty, then speeding - a crime which contributes to thousands of deaths every year in America - absolutely should. Kyuubi4269 posted... </cite> <quote>Thieves are garbage and fair game for abuse, that's the line.</quote> Did you not read the part where I said you need a set of logical principles to guide your line-drawing, or did you not understand it? Because being challenged to provide a set of logical decision-making principles and then just restating your arbitrary position means one of those two things happened, and I need to know which one so that I know whether you need education or just to be ignored because you're not interested in anything more than childish stonewalling. zebatov posted... </cite> <quote>Or maybe they should have just done a citizens arrest on them instead of attacking them.</quote> They really should have. Obviously, these thieves are in fact criminals who deserve to face justice for their crimes. Assaulting them, however, is not that justice, because vigilante violence is a terrible way to allow a society to be run. Film the incident and citizen's arrest them, then hand them over to the police. If these people aren't willing to do their due diligence to ensure due process is followed, there's no reason to treat them as anything more than people who've watched too many Batman movies. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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