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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 258: Imminent Song
metroid composite
01/11/20 10:44:36 AM
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Kinglicious posted...
Taken to its logical conclusion the blame game would end up going around the world and it'd e everyone's fault. Trump would go back to Obama which would also go to Bush and so on. Including their voters, so if you voted for Obama back in 2012 you're at fault too. Hell, we'd be at fault for 9/11. Similarly you'd have the opposing sides all at fault too (pick your Middle East county) and work that butterfly effect backwards to who knows how long. Everyone did everything wrong.
I think extending it to the voters is a bit complicated.

Like...in 2012 yes, people knew that Obama used drone strikes, did not prosecute soldiers who had committed war crimes, did not close Guantanamo Bay, was using unlimited surveillance tactics authorized by the patriot act etc. This was a potential weak point and a good opponent could have run on a platform of more peace and less spying on its own citizens. But Romney...didn't try? He didn't challenge Obama on any of these things, didn't bring them up in the debates, and when drone strikes were brought up he expressed enthusiasm for them.

Like...this article from 2012 describes the debate between Obama and Romney as "hawk vs hawk":

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/mitt-romney-vs-barack-obama-hawk-vs-hawk

I think it's fair to blame Bush voters in 2004. He had started two wars at that point and it was already kind-of clear that there were no WMDs. It's obvious who to vote for in 2004 if you want less war. It's not obvious who to vote for in 2012 if you want less war since they both ran on similar platforms.

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