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TopicWhat particular statements by Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson make them alt righ
hollow_shrine
12/05/18 7:58:56 PM
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Godnorgosh posted...
But debate has almost nothing to do with who is right and almost everything to do with persuasion and the way in which you present your case, which is why it's traditionally been the domain of sophists and rhetoricians.

Very true. Look in the comment sections of these 'debates' and you'll realize culturally these are just two people arguing. No one leans anything there and even the debater's positions don't further mature or evolve in nuance. Because of that it's often more informative to read their perspectives and try to produce the best version of each sides arguments. Or watch a debate with more formally organized rules where the purpose is not to 'win' but to craft the best solution to a problem.
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