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Topic	Smallville actress Allison Mack files for divorce
Zeus 12/11/20 10:15:53 PM #22:	xue1 posted... Smallville actress Kristin Kreuk was also in NXIVM. However, Kristin Kreuk did not take a slave, so she was not arrested More importantly, she got out years ago despite iirc being the one who got Mack involved. TheAwesomeMatt posted... There's so much about NXIVM that still baffles me, I just don't understand how fairly successful actresses like Allison Mack and Nicki Clyne could get drawn into something so obviously wrong. There really doesn't appear to be anything particularly special about this Keith Raniere guy either. Same obviously applies to Scientology, we all know that it's a horrible scam but it manages to pick up new members. I'm not religious in any way, I don't know religious pedagogy works and how it's applied to this scams. I don't know if I should just let my bafflement sit and not go down a cult rabbit hole, that might be how they get you. The same thing could be said about government, though. There's a lot of shit about government that makes no fucking sense either if you stop to think about it too long, especially democracies since the operating theory is that people can't be trusted to handle their own shit yet you're going to those same people decide how shit should be handled. I think a lot of it just comes down to the appearance of structure and authority which makes crazy shit feel more justified. Ask somebody to do something crazy and a normal person is going to refuse. Put on a lab coat or an uniform then ask somebody to do something crazy, normal people are going to listen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment A lot of it is probably evolutionary, where humans -- as a social animal -- likely seek structure and authority, whether that authority is a cult leader, a politician, or a religious figure. Of course, in NXVIM's case, there was a whole structure for grooming people into the thing involving blackmail so it's not just a matter of people going along with it as it is a matter of people being progressively victimized. And then eventually some of the exploited became exploiters as well. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:948228276] in Smallville... [t:79169084]...</cite> <quote>xue1 posted... </cite> <quote>Smallville actress Kristin Kreuk was also in NXIVM. However, Kristin Kreuk did not take a slave, so she was not arrested</quote> More importantly, she got out years ago despite iirc being the one who got Mack involved. TheAwesomeMatt posted... </cite> <quote>There's so much about NXIVM that still baffles me, I just don't understand how fairly successful actresses like Allison Mack and Nicki Clyne could get drawn into something so obviously wrong. There really doesn't appear to be anything particularly special about this Keith Raniere guy either. Same obviously applies to Scientology, we all know that it's a horrible scam but it manages to pick up new members. I'm not religious in any way, I don't know religious pedagogy works and how it's applied to this scams. I don't know if I should just let my bafflement sit and not go down a cult rabbit hole, that might be how they get you.</quote> The same thing could be said about government, though. There's a lot of shit about government that makes no fucking sense either if you stop to think about it too long, especially democracies since the operating theory is that people can't be trusted to handle their own shit yet you're going to those same people decide how shit should be handled. I think a lot of it just comes down to the appearance of structure and authority which makes crazy shit feel more justified. Ask somebody to do something crazy and a normal person is going to refuse. Put on a lab coat or an uniform then ask somebody to do something crazy, normal people are going to listen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment A lot of it is probably evolutionary, where humans -- as a social animal -- likely seek structure and authority, whether that authority is a cult leader, a politician, or a religious figure. Of course, in NXVIM's case, there was a whole structure for grooming people into the thing involving blackmail so it's not just a matter of people going along with it as it is a matter of people being progressively victimized. And then eventually some of the exploited became exploiters as well. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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