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Berseria

I fell through a steamed hams rabbit hole last night and I can officially say that the best ones are

1. ghost trick
2. danganronpa
3. ace attorney
4. metal gear

did we talk about the ghost trick one

that was amazing

Quit halfway through chapter 4

It was decent. I might go back to it, but I felt like replaying P5 instead.

valkyria revolution

Nadal's gonna win this one fairly easily I reckon, so long as his injury doesn't get worse.

Chell - eze

nah, Sell-es

If you start with P3, I suggest starting with P3P. You have greater control over battles and it's overall a pretty swell interface.

Yeah if you don't like it at the beginning you won't like it ever

Final Fantasy XV - PS4

Flawed

I forgot that I began this year by finishing FFXV. Gotta say, this game is simply unfinished. Like MGSV, it has early sections with really good gameplay, but little story development and real lack of payoff. I like how the game starts off with little story, but then when the game becomes linear it quickly becomes, well, awful. Perhaps the added DLC helps this, but I doubt it.

KamikazePotato posted...

CaptainOfCrush posted...

Well, you can read my post on the last page for some of my takeaways after a second viewing. This topic has long since reached the point where we're just talking about isolated bits of the movie and Star Wars as a whole.

Also, I think this board actually likes the movie more than other communities. Check out this poll:

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/227-movies-at-the-theater/76143736

The Movies board is extremely reactionary, for the record. I would not take that place as a decent barometer for most things.

The movie's reception is positive overall, especially among casual moviegoers. In general I think that the more someone associates them with the Star Wars 'fandom' the more they're likely to dislike the movie though.

I mean that's what it all boils down to right? Casual movie goers/fans are more likely to enjoy the movie because, for all its talk of "letting go of the past" it doesn't actually get into the past, mythology, world building. Instead, it relies upon the strength of its new characters: namely Holdo, Rose, Rey, and Kylo Ren. For fans of the original films and the franchise's outer world, it's disappointing because it doesn't really provide a satisfactory level of enmeshment within that world.

Oh yeah, also

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - Switch

Good, Bad, Flawed (some kind of mix

I'm not very far into this, but I have no idea what to make of it so far honestly. I just got access to a three-person party and battles are fairly satisfying, if not unnecessarily long. I feel like many of the game's detractors are judging this in light of stuff like BoTW and Odyssey, which is unfair. It takes a lot of stuff from the first Xenoblade and improves it. It also takes some flaws from Xenoblade and carries them over without fixing them. It also makes some things noticeably worse. There is so much stuff in here as far as systems/minigames and barely any of it feels necessary. That being said, I appreciate the unabashed "old-school" nature of the story and character designs. It really does remind me of an early Tales game or a weird cousin of Skies of Arcadia. Right now, I'm enjoying it well enough to keep playing, but I'm also decidedly not impressed.

Roughly in reverse order of my enjoyment.

Valkyria Revolution - PS4

Flawed Badly

Long cutscenes with some of the most awkward motion capture I've ever seen. I only made it to the third "chapter." Gameplay was very much Dynasty Warriors in a bad way. I would say it's the most disappointing game ever, but I wasn't really expecting it to be that great anyway.

MvC: Infinite - PS4

Bad

Yoooo fuck this obvious cash grab. The fact that Venom looks good in videos means nothing to me, since I already returned this mess months ago. People say the gameplay here is good, but it's not. UMvC3 was much better.

Splatoon 2 - Switch

Good

I never played the first one and I'm not huge on this one either, but I can tell a good game when I see it. Turf War and Salmon Run are both really fun. Single-player was kind of sucky though.

Danganronpa V3 - Vita

Good, but flawed

It vacillates between being by far the best DR and being by far the worst. You can place me in the "hates the ending" camp, but even so, it's still a pretty good game. I hate Shuichi's VA though.

Super Mario Odyssey - Switch

Good, but somewhat overrated

While this is my first actual 3D Mario since 64, I had a good time. That being said, I'm not quite sure I get what the fuss is about. It's fun, but once it's over, what's the point? I don't see myself coming back to this.

Trails in the Sky, SC - Vita

Good

Once again, the second installment of a Trails game ups the pace and stakes of the first. My Trails timeline is something like:

First Chapter - played to Zeiss, got bored quit.
Cold Steel 1 - played halfway, got bored, quit.
Cold Steel 1 - months later, forced myself through, got to the cliffhanger (holy shit)
Cold Steel 2 - obsessed now, played through it quickly, loved it
First Chapter - started from the beginning, still kind of boring, but picks up
Second Chapter - obsessed, played through it quickly, loved it

One might say they should work on making their beginnings more interesting, but that would also kind of ruin the journey.

Tales of Berseria - PS4

Good

By far the biggest surprise of the year, this might be the best Tales game. Velvet's character design is not great, and the equipment system is still confusing as hell, but everything else about the game is really, REALLY good. Personally, I still like Graces F more than this one, purely on battle system/skits. I love this cast, even if it is kind of One Piece.

Persona 5 - PS4

Good

For me, I would say that this game firmly met its expectations, which is saying something. The cast is good, the gameplay is phenomenal, the story is pretty OK. It's a bit too easy on Normal, but then again, maybe I just know how to play Persona.

Breath of the Wild - Switch

Good

Not much I can say here that hasn't already been said. A stunningly good game, the best in the series. Takes risks and succeeds tremendously.

Addendum:
Nier: Automata, Nioh, Horizon: Zero Dawn, - PS4

Good

Really quickly - I also played these three games, but not as much as the others. From what I can tell, any other year, they all could have been GoTY candidates.

leia's "force" scene is so ridiculously stupid

the force can now literally let you do anything, from telepathically skyping your friends to flying through space

probably apollo justice, even though I've sort of come to peace with it now

It's either "Last Christmas" or "All I Want for Christmas is You"

It's a very sloppy narrative, and disappointing from a character standpoint. Still, it's better than TFA and probably RoTS.

why are you making bagel sandwiches

just use regular bread - and if you're using regular bread, don't use two bottoms? that's ridiculous.

Phasma provides an opening for ANY sort of development for Finn, who I generally enjoy.

Deepening Phasma would in turn deepen Finn, by perhaps answering questions like, "Who is Finn?" and "Why was he able to break through the First Order brainwashing?"

Instead, Finn beats Phasma in a fairly meaningless battle

for the record, I also think the film was better than TFA, by virtue of it not being a complete rehash

Is this TOCS4 or TOCS3 (part 2)? I thought I read somewhere that 3 was split into two.

Yo this movie was garbage SPOILERS

- absolutely no development/backstory for Snoke
- no development for Finn, either as a solitary character or as a foil to Rey or Poe.
- Phasma was completely worthless AGAIN.
- Haldo was portrayed as an antagonist for no reason, kept her plan a secret for no reason
- entire casino planet section was completely pointless and a tonal shift for the entire series
- Luke, a master Jedi who has faced the Dark Side of the Force on numerous occasions, thinks about killing his nephew while he sleeps? This is out of character. Hamill was totally right when he said he knew Luke better than the writers of this film.
- Anti-reveal of Rey's backstory. So the fact that there's nothing special about her just makes the fact that she's good at everything naturally even more suspect.
- Still no explanation for the First Order's rise to power, why the Republic failed, etc.

I prefer seeing movies when they're not crowded, so no

so this definitely looks like a remake of soul edge huh

Homecoming was basically a traditional comic book movie / black panther also seems to be looking that way

idiots complain about how thor 3 and gotg 2 aren't serious enough, but there's a reason the formula hasn't gotten old yet.

Nanis23 posted...

I like how the DLC case is barely even mentioned...like at all, in any SoJ discussion
It's as filler as a filler can get

It's better than 6-4 and probably better than the DLC case from Dual Destinies

this makes sense

Probably the third best game in the series, overall

Those ratings are mostly fair, but I think Ronan is better than you give him credit for.

slowdive
converge
the national
alex cameron
jens lekman
ariel pink
sheer mag
weed

Fun Topic!

Final Fantasy - I for the NES was the first one I played. First owned: II (IV)
Pokemon - Never
Tales - Destiny II (I think it's actually called Phantasia? It was for the PS1)
Persona - P3P
SMT - P3P if it counts - if not, IV. I haven't played a lot of SMT
Dragon Quest - The first one (Dragon Warrior in the US)
Fire Emblem* - Path of Radiance
JRPG not listed here - Secret of Mana, I guess

boss fight you thought was hard - The octopus monster in FFIV
party member that died because of your incompetence - probably Rydia
JRPG you gave up on...
because it was bad - Beyond the Beyond
for another reason - Legend of Legaia for PS1
full party - I don't understand the question
hated character - I remember HATING Porom
loved character - Kain, obviously
"WOW" moment (battle/gameplay) - Blitzes in FFVI
"WOW" moment (story) - The Intro to FFIV
crush >_>- Tifa, I guess

VeryInsane posted...

What are the must play games of 2017 out of curiosity other than Mario/Zelda

Just want to make sure I play them all

My personal top 10 other than Mario & Zelda

1. Persona 5
2. Tales of Berseria
3. Wolfenstein 2
4. Nioh
5. Horizon: Zero Dawn
6. Danganronpa V3
7. Golf Story
8. Nier: Automata
9. Trails the 3rd
10. Destiny 2

yeah case sucks big time.

at least it reminded us that blackquill exists though

Paratroopa1 posted...

No, it's the best year in gaming since 2015

I'll grant you Witcher 3 and Bloodborne. MGSV needs an ending. Everything else is whatever.

EDIT: Also Rocket League. I'll grant you that one too. Xenoblade Chronicles 3D is also good, but yeah, port and NEW 3DS nonsense weakens it.

MrGreenonion posted...

2007 was pretty fuckin rad

This one has an argument. Personally, I really only care about Justice for All, Trials & Tribulations, Portal, and Bioshock. I guess it's also notable for the first installments of Mass Effect and Uncharted though both of them kind of suck compared to their sequels.

Also yeah. Guitar Hero and Rock Band were at peak popularity so make of that what you will.

Even if you wrongly think that P5 isn't an all-time classic, it's still excellent, which puts this year up near the very pinnacle of gaming.

Apologies for not mentioning the Indies, and for not listing Resident Evil 2 on my first 1998 list. I really don't care about Banjo or Pokemon though, sorry.

PS3 is the only answer

The most fun I had at the movies this year was seeing It - not saying IT was all that good, but it was super fun.

SSJBGenkiDama posted...

Persona isn't a classic.

And how do you forget Pokmon in 98?

I've actually never played a Pokemon game.

We have at least three all-time classics: Persona 5, BOTW, and Odyssey.

Add to the year very good offerings like Horizon: Zero Dawn, Splatoon 2, Wolfenstein 2.

In addition, we have a number of more "niche" like games that exceeded expectations: Tales of Berseria, Nioh, Danganronpa V3, Nier: Automata, Trails the 3rd

Finally, remasters/ports of games: MK8 Deluxe, Trails of Cold Steel 1 & 2.

Point is, there was a lot to be thankful for this year. (For reference, 1998 is forever untouchable: OoT, Metal Gear Solid, FF Tactics, Xenogears, Suikoden II, Mega Man Legends... I could actually go on).

wes anderson

When I think of average JRPG's, Radiata Stories fits the bill

I have absolutely no problem with grinding for money or with encountering strong enemies, so this is looking good for me

I'm hoping for more balance, lots of unique squad members, and well animated cutscenes.

This is an interesting poll because 1 & 2 pose as the "most acceptable options," but really, 3 & 4 are still required in order for 1 & 2 to be acceptable.

This is just a long way of me saying that just because you're in a relationship doesn't mean you should just grope her whenever.

I made a thread saying that Azure Revolution wasn't that bad... but then it turned out it really was bad. Has a pretty good Mitsuda soundtrack that's worth a listen though.

The main problem with it was that it was too much cutscene,not enough gameplay. That being said, I"ll reserve judgment / suppress hype until I see some gameplay videos for this one. We need maps that require actual tactics again.

Also...the original VC still looks better. This should've been a PS4/PC exclusive.

SSJBGenkiDama posted...

colliding posted...

not sure why I bother, but whatever

people are more likely to respond to disagreeable things that they have been hearing their entire life, like "America is the best country in the world." this is very easily shut down by discussing its history of colonialism, discrimination, and slavery. he ruined is experiment by spouting nationalistic, blindly patriotic, rhetoric.

some dude waving an ISIS flag is clearly just being a contrarian. that person is also less likely to be argued with because overall, people are less familiar with it. it's not that people are supporting ISIS by not confronting him, it's that they are actually more suspicious of him and less prepared to argue with him.

No it's not....

Move the fuck to China.

I would if I could!

2-3 is certainly better on repeated playthroughs. 2-2 has some logical stuff that doesn't quite make sense. I can't remember it off the top of my head, but there's always a part of the trial that bugs me.

2-1 is really the bad case in JFA that doesn't get enough criticism. Even as a tutorial case, that case is pretty bad.

kevwaffles posted...

It's really easy for me to pick out the best case in AAI. It's 4.

accurate

it's actually not very good. lang and kay are good characters though.