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Is this the work of the almighty claw

Wait didn't ctes vote me

Requote if you want me to address I'm too busy to dig for your post

PunishedBen posted...

Interesting point. Lopen what are your current thoughts on that anyway?

Btw on this this is basically the gist of why I suspect Corrik so I don't think it's accurate to say I haven't theorized on it at all

Big thing here is Lea's vote while I feel was tactical as a way to escape my attack I at least can't say was opportunistic which is what I feel about Ctes and Chang votes

Lea effectively "owns" my lynch right now so they're free to pile on with minimal risk of being lynched for it

Yeah actually

##Vote: Ctes

I can't see Lea x Chang with town Ctes here. Can see the other combinations

I guess you being the duped town is still possible though

In which case it'd be Chang x Ctes

This was before I had realized what the implications of you being scum were and before Ctes had voted me

Chang is probably town. Scum 3-0ing me feels audacious

ctesjbuvf posted...

I started out trying to draw notes of player interactions and somewhere maybe halfway in topic 1 I realized I was overdoing it and not having fun considering we're at a stage with only one very early flip. I was zoning out so I reread the rest and started gathering things from there, made me feel alive again, it's been a while, I'm glad I signed up. But hopefully I can use what I did note on a later day.

Show us your partial notes

Also I don't really have a lot of reason to think you're town for afking if your master plan is to catch someone I don't believe you actually think is scum with it.

Feels more like you afked, realized you got a lot of heat and hatched a good scheme to try and get a free lynch off of it

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I don't buy you're wrong town because no one but you and chang (who is at best case biased, but more likely also scum) actually think I'm scum

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If I don't counter vote me you just hit me without me hitting back

Win win for you

I'm OK with lynching today

Lea
Chang
Ctes (scum Lea would just let me hang myself by lynching him-- he's probably scum)

If you all want you can decide my vote between these three with popular vote

UltimaterializerX posted...

Lopen you unvoted once Jeff Goldblum showed up with a new flare gun. Im talking about this post.

Why this vote in particular?

I don't believe Lea thinks I'm scum and the scenario she created by afk makes her have an easier battle to win than facing me head on earlier

Enchantress posted...

What's the scum benefit in this line?

To not have to battle me saying you look weird supporting NL and instead I have to look like I am countervoting you

I think if my reads are bad Lea probably buddies up to me and lets me run over town

Most of your scum is probably in some combination of

Lea
Ulti
Ctes
Corrik
Chang

UltimaterializerX posted...

Uh.

She voted first, I believe? How is that her counter voting you?

I voted her yesterday

Enchantress posted...

How exactly did I catch you out of position? As far as I can tell you didn't say you were too busy to post tonight or anything. Odd counter vote tbh

I did say I was busy

And you caught me out of position by feigning afk/goading votes until I thought you were town, then countervoting me

##Vote: Lea

Good with countervoting here

I'm thinking Lea is probably scum who caught me out of position which throws off the calculations on Ctes actually

##Unvote:

I'm too busy to acknowledge. We can battle tomorrow if you want.

This is not a Lea vs FD lynch

Chang x IGCD as theatre works if and only if Corrik is not on their team

Corrik shooting IGCD right off is really the only reason it looks weird

Oh wait yeah

Corrik and Chang can't both be scum I said this earlier

Thanks for keeping me in line pal

Thinking scumteam is Corrik Ulti Chang Ctes atm

Obellisk posted...

I hate all of that. And i wish I had the answer.

The Claw might be all powerful, but it is not all knowing.

Fd - Town with bad stratz
Kirby - Town with bad stratz or scum
Lea - Town trolling
Mzero - scum or stubborn town
Ulti - Probably scum
Corrik - Probably scum
Ben - Hasn't come back yet, think he moves
Itz Knightz - RNG or scum

##Vote: Chang

Choo choo part 2

##Vote: Corrik

Choo choo

I don't really want an Ulti lynch but it's a better lynch than FD (and marginally better than no lynch)

Really think ctes is the only lynch with any support that is likely to hit scum atm

Then again it's Ulti

Frankly whether Corrik and Ctes are scum is irrelevant and that just looks bad in a vacuum with respect to consistency

I'll note Ulti previously announced suspicion of ctes and Corrik and is ignoring an attempt to push the former and is joining a lynch pushed by the latter

htaeD posted...

Lopen do you think Mzero dares to make this move as scum? Start a lynch and then peace out?
My own opinion may be obvious, but still

He could plausibly do so but note I am not voting mzero and am trying to reason with him (since I know as town mzero is super stubborn)

I completely buy the "tax day" excuse for lack of spreadsheets for the record

Mzero do you have any other lynches you'll accept that aren't FD

MZero posted...

I mean using math and stuff to decide the "optimal" and safe course of action instead of actually scumhunting

Isn't this literally what his spreadsheets are

MZero posted...

Either way anyone can say that, someone find proof of him doing it as town

Doing what as town? We had one date game how could we.

htaeD posted...

While I appreciate that Mzero has a drive now, I do want to know what eveven was the suboptimal FD strategy he is referring too.
I am asking as the guy who died night1 and wants to check that game again

I said FD was encouraging a passive date scheme to allow scum to run over town with ease

FD insisted post-game he was doing what he would have done as town and just happened to be scum

Did Mzero tune out of this discussion or is her purposely misrepresenting the situation to get votes on FD

Forceful_Dragon posted...

He could also be overzealous town dayvig, but then he would just be laying low and "see you day 2"ing. It's definitely a different kind of vibe from corrik.

Exactly

Ulit having zero apprehension over a Corrik he opened game suspecting is noted

Forceful_Dragon posted...

But if you're lynching me to try to find scum yourself then you are doing it wrong.

He is scum

Yeah I don't think pushing NL is out of character for FD or Kirby (moreso FD)

Notably to defeat MZero's argument FD vehemently denied he was manipulating town as scum in valentine's mafia and claimed it was a good strategy

I feel like Mzero was paying attention to this discussion too.

Obellisk posted...

poorly assessed how it would be received, can't back out now.

FD had played long enough here to know this isn't NL Country

He's also being active while not actually trying to solve just rationalizing hating NL people

No attempt to find scum just attempts to give him an excuse to path shots

MZero posted...

Corrik was a log last game as scum

He's been a log as both alignments but being active before he absolutely has to is pretty much scum exclusive

Corrik7 posted...

I've been vig one other time. I shot the SK in the first 20 posts of the game. And was very active that game. So, tell me where your nonsense of I would do so and so or whatever you are babbling comes from.

I was the Green Arrow that game.

You're almost never active as town.

You're usually more active as anti-town.

Don't care about vig game specifically unless you had infinite shots

htaeD posted...

I am not sure who this is about but it certainly cant be me

Ctes

I mean I can't be the only one seeing this

Town Corrik
- Doesn't care to post this much if he can just kill things (or in general, really)
- Would actually try to hit scum not "anti-town"

It all just feels like a convenient excuse to railroad his shots the next 3 days and get no suspicions for it

Corrik7 posted...

Then you should be voting me if I am only scum or sk.

I'm more sure ctes is scum than you're either but if it comes down to you vs anything that isn't ctes I'd likely go for it.