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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 489: Nick Gage was Robbed
Lopen
10/10/19 5:07:53 PM
#379
NBIceman posted...
And yet in the last five years, for whatever reasons, false finishes have suddenly become a bad thing


They've become a bad thing because WWE mails in false finishes by making them

Finisher
TWO Finishers
SURPRISE Finisher
Finisher FROM THE TOP ROPE

Doing false finishes with devastating looking moves unique to the match is awesome
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 489: Nick Gage was Robbed
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10/10/19 5:06:21 PM
#377
I definitely think his commentary team gelling with him is a huge boon to his ability for sure.

But the why he's doing well doesn't entirely matter unless we're just trying to pick reasons to tear Jim Ross down? Like he definitely adds something to what's going on there and isn't dragging anything down. Like Schiavone and Excalibur would certainly be a fine commentary team but they would be inferior to the 3 man booth they have.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 489: Nick Gage was Robbed
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10/10/19 5:02:24 PM
#369
I'm saying I noticed problems too and they were ironically in the things you thought were done well like the Darby vs Havoc match (Darby didn't get enough time to shine to really come off as any sort of credible threat to Jericho)

Complaining about the stuff on the show I (and most people who watched the show I've interacted with) thought was the best stuff on it is ???
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 489: Nick Gage was Robbed
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10/10/19 4:57:20 PM
#366
And yet his best commentary of the night was in a match that involved none of those guys!
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 489: Nick Gage was Robbed
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10/10/19 4:55:02 PM
#363
False finishes are good

False finishes are only bad in the WWE style where it's literally just hitting your finisher over and over with kick outs, because that gets old. If you keep expecting guys to maybe stay down and they don't, and then it escalates or stays at the same pitch? Great! Suffice to say I disagree the match peaked at the shooting star press.

Though the worst take may be that Jim Ross is not a good announcer. He added so much to the story of that match with his commentary about how The Bucks aren't finishing due to underestimating the Private Party, how they're now making mistakes due to the 20 minute time limit and not putting them away early, etc.
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 73 [smfffc]
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10/10/19 4:49:56 PM
#164
Goffard Gaffgarion
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 73 [smfffc]
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10/10/19 2:37:15 PM
#9
Seymour Guado
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TopicFate/Grand Order Topic 14
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10/10/19 2:01:33 PM
#5
I rather enjoyed a topic title with Merry Christmas in it nearly lasting till the next Christmas
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 489: Nick Gage was Robbed
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10/10/19 11:23:24 AM
#351
PAC wants to get noticed more he doesn't have any problem with Darby it's not like Darby makes the matches. Attacking Darby would be stupid.
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TopicI just did a quadruple take when I saw Ulti quoted in Vice
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10/10/19 11:21:14 AM
#72
UltimaterializerX posted...
A mod locked that topic, not me.


I believe it

People who only use GameFAQs don't realize how good we have it here. Reddit mods are basically power hungry dictators compared to the GameFAQs mods on most subreddits.
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 72 [smfffc]
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10/10/19 12:49:17 AM
#263
Yeah massive gulf between casual saving and the people who are F5ing, or worse still making all sorts of alliances and crap

Though always thought barrel was more towards the casual side so...
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 489: Nick Gage was Robbed
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10/09/19 11:35:54 PM
#347
Moxley wants to kill him himself cause he's an honorable combatant (but that is okay with attacking people from behind if he does it himself he ain't that honorable)

Getting the scraps PAC leaves for him isn't cool with him though

He is a nuanced tweener character right now I liked it
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 72 [smfffc]
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10/09/19 8:00:05 PM
#246
LiquidOshawott posted...
But what if they somehow decide to go all in on FFV

Kelgas time to shine!


Final Fantasy X-Death here we come
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TopicI just did a quadruple take when I saw Ulti quoted in Vice
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10/09/19 7:27:36 PM
#50
KokoroAkechi posted...
Ulti has been one of the hearthstone reddits most popular posters for a while now


Popular? Does the dude post about things other than the RNG screwing him there or do they really hate the RNG on that reddit?
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 72 [smfffc]
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10/09/19 7:01:57 PM
#219
Yuffie
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 489: Nick Gage was Robbed
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10/09/19 6:08:22 PM
#340
Yeah and look where that got him!
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 489: Nick Gage was Robbed
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10/09/19 6:03:02 PM
#338
Undertaker also had a lot more presence than Bray Wyatt. Also the babyfaces generally didn't sell fear of him, it was the cowardly heels that did.

Selling fear of The Fiend is more like selling fear of Papa Shango or The Boogeyman or something. It's not something that fits a main event level.
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 72 [smfffc]
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10/09/19 6:00:32 PM
#129
Gaffgarion
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 489: Nick Gage was Robbed
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10/09/19 4:26:10 PM
#331
Very few things would give me more pleasure than Fiend vs Brock with Brock giving zero fucks and just steamrolling him

Of course very few things would make me more upset than seeing Brock sell fear of The Fiend so I really don't want it
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 72 [smfffc]
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10/09/19 4:23:47 PM
#50
Seymour
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 489: Nick Gage was Robbed
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10/09/19 3:59:30 PM
#326
I'm the weird guy who kinda likes Firefly Funhouse Bray (when given more material to work with than cutting promos to himself this is the best character Bray has ever had) and hates the Fiend (annoying lights/music and impossible to suspend disbelief for with how unstoppable he is)
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Topic100 days of Keto. 57 lbs lost.
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10/09/19 12:27:44 PM
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I'm 6'0"

I imagine at 6'1" 200 would be alright could maybe try 190. Play it by ear. Big thing with me is I thought 210 was basically fine but I feel much better at 175 which is why I say don't settle. Lots of randos started giving me props at around 190 which was really encouraging. You started higher so you may already be getting those but you do plateau a bit in terms of perceived weight loss in the range you are approaching so it's easy to just stop there, but don't.
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Topic100 days of Keto. 57 lbs lost.
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10/09/19 11:30:18 AM
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Yeah a small break is probably fine. I just know I dropped from 250 to 210, felt alright about things and took a break for a few months, then I wanted to start again and had quite a wind up time and was back at 220 before it actually started again.

Currently 175 and have held that for months and feeling great though. As long as you make some reasonable effort to preserve your eating habits you shouldn't rebound. Holiday season is the most trying time so even if you do a bit don't get discouraged
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Topic100 days of Keto. 57 lbs lost.
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10/09/19 10:59:33 AM
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Nice work man! If you're this far I'm sure you'll reach your goal. Just don't settle because you're looking "good enough" cause it's harder to start losing weight again when you've stopped your momentum speaking from experience and depending on your body structure you may be completely fine with how you look and feel well before 200. Just go all the way through. Having a buffer in case your weight rebounds a bit is good anyway.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 489: Nick Gage was Robbed
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10/09/19 10:48:20 AM
#319
You loved Bray Wyatt though didn't you
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TopicFinal Fantasy: Brave Exvius Topic 54 - It's Nerf or Nothin'
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10/09/19 9:44:53 AM
#288
You know I made no effort to save any resources but maybe I'll login to see if the game will be kind
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 71 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
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10/09/19 1:09:20 AM
#337
Edward's gameplay is fun

Whiny loser at first, yes
He gradually gains some confidence over time though starting with the scene at Kaipo Inn at night
By Troia post shipwreck he's no more effective but he's having issues now due to being cripple from the shipwreck more than being a whiner and he's doing the best he can dammit

Is he great? Nah not really, but I kinda like him. His limited character development is good and comes off naturally enough in a game where there isn't really much of that.
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TopicBlizzard bans and withholds prize money from hearthstone player for HK support
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10/09/19 1:00:08 AM
#325
Drakeryn posted...
I would not for an instant think "yes, these are the views of Blizzard, he is speaking as a company representative"


That's because you're thinking about it, though.

The majority aren't thinking about it. It's reported as "dude on Hearthstone stream says ____" and it's linked to the stream as its point of origin. The link in your mind is there. When you technically boil it down no it's not anything blizzard endorses but it's still something broadcast from a blizzard source which creates associations whether right or wrong.

Like in an ideal world you're right I just don't think it's working that way in practice. If Blizzard streams started becoming a hotbed for MAGA folks to start on rants then you're like "oh yeah blizzard their games have all those MAGA nuts playing em" which is not necessarily an image they want
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TopicBlizzard bans and withholds prize money from hearthstone player for HK support
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10/09/19 12:21:09 AM
#314
Maybe they knew that would happen and are secretly patriots
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TopicBlizzard bans and withholds prize money from hearthstone player for HK support
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10/09/19 12:09:41 AM
#311
I mean don't get me wrong I think if China is like 3% of their profits instead of 30% they aren't making that snap judgment and more carefully consider what punishment is fair and fits but I think saying it's just about fear of losing potential China profit right now by not bending a knee and groveling I think is dumbing it down.

Like if this guy does that with no repercussions what's to stop another and another and Blizzard perpetually becoming a soapbox for whatever charged topic comes up and becoming associated with all sorts of things they'd rather just stay out of cause there's no profit there. I feel like that kinda mindset was at work too, and is a lot more forgivable.
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TopicBlizzard bans and withholds prize money from hearthstone player for HK support
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10/08/19 11:51:27 PM
#304
I think making it purely a profit margin thing is dumbing it down anyway

Does China bow out completely with a less severe punishment or even no punishment at all? Hard to say, but honestly really doubtful. Was the decision to be severe largely about appeasing massive profit generator China? Possibly, but again, hard to say.

For me the point of interest is less about "is Blizzard okay to make a decision entirely because it boosts their bottom line" cause I mean clearly they are and it's just about whether you find it scummy. The interesting thing to consider is more "is Blizzard necessarily in the wrong if they want to keep charged topics off their streams in general." Because I think the latter thinking is a bigger factor than a lot of people are giving credit for, and part of this was trying to make a decisive example to prevent further incidents. They're not entirely unrelated or anything and I'm not saying trying to purge that kinda stuff isn't ultimately being done with a profit driven mindset (more of a preventative potential bad PR measure) but I consider the latter a lot more acceptable as a mindset than "let's get in good with the regime by totally obliterating this guy" which is how everyone seems to be framing it.

Like I just don't think it's reasonable to hold a company to a standard where they're expected to basically take the role of an activist-- the "these don't represent Blizzard" disclaimers are nice but they're technicalities more than anything. If you broadcast something, it's getting tied to you. Wanting to prevent that is fine. Blizzard is a gaming company not a news outlet or public forum and not wanting heat associated with their brand is acceptable. It's not a matter of straight censorship it's about whether a content creator has control over what gets associated with them.

But yeah, the extent of the punishment was egregious so I don't support Blizzard here, but I just don't think they're necessarily scum of the earth either depending on what the mindset was, which we can't really know. Backpedaling and admitting they overreacted and dialing the punishment back a lot (and completely for the casters) would do a lot to mend the situation.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 489: Nick Gage was Robbed
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10/08/19 11:17:06 PM
#310
I'm pretty sure the exact moment Rollins's coolness started to tank was when he got the Burn It Down catchphrase

Same with Braun Strowman and Get These Hands
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 71 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
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10/08/19 10:24:05 PM
#315
Bravely Default isn't the enemy it's Edea imo. The more obnoxious of the alts saves her first
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TopicBlizzard bans and withholds prize money from hearthstone player for HK support
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10/08/19 10:13:11 PM
#292
Gaslighting what

I'm just saying you are misrepresenting the stance of everyone who isn't all up on blizzard's ass by claiming that makes you pro China or even necessarily pro censorship. That's not what it's about. I don't see a reason to have an argument about "points" when you are misrepresenting mine. You are critically thinking about a point I'm not making.

My issue has never been about your stance on censorship, it's been about you being holier than thou to people who would dare not show outrage over what Blizzard did, as though not being SUPER UPSET here makes you a bad person or something. If you disagree but are only a little upset and will talk out the details of whether a lesser punishment was warranted that's just not good enough-- like how vigorously you're wagging your finger at Blizzard on a video game message board means anything about your worth as a person. It's impossible to take seriously and reads more like a freedom fighter character than a reaction a real person would have to this. That doesn't mean the stance is fake-- you could just be cranking the volume real loud on what you actually believe, but the reaction is such a character.
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 71 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
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10/08/19 8:09:34 PM
#137
Gaff
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TopicBlizzard bans and withholds prize money from hearthstone player for HK support
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10/08/19 8:02:35 PM
#280
There is a difference between being against a regime and crying moral superiority against people who don't show enough outrage about a video game company potentially doing some of the dirty work of the regime through a harsh punishment of a player. Heck with me I even agree with the general idea that Blizzard was out of line, but just adding the caveat that a stream isn't a place for that and it's not Blizzard's obligation to be the platform for him to express his views on that, and the dude should have got some much more minor punishment to dissuade these kinda things. Unfortunately, I just don't agree hard enough for MariaTaylor, the Level 1 Chaotic Good freedom loving Bard with a heart of gold, to abide.

You keep saying you don't like me that like it matters. Your feelings about me have no bearing on how I feel about you or about myself. Partially because your opinion is based on a grievance I find valueless (that people should be super upset at Blizzard here or else they MUST support authoritarian regimes) so I don't take it seriously, and partially because we don't know each other on any sort of personal level so I'm not angry or upset that you dislike me. Plenty of people here, some of which I hold in higher regard than you, dislike me, but you can't accept that it's meaningless to me. You keep saying I'm freaking out here but it feels like projecting at this point. There is no backpedaling-- when I say I have no beef with you I am not trying to damage control you calling me scum I am just being honest.
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TopicBlizzard bans and withholds prize money from hearthstone player for HK support
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10/08/19 7:10:38 PM
#276
Also I can think you're being a pretentious idiot here without disliking you

I don't dislike you. As always your random rants against people are hit or miss, with this one being a miss. It's whatever. I don't win em all either. (This one is a softball so swing away)

I just said you as the arbiter of who is and isn't a positive influence on the world is something I find laughable and that I find you chiefly spread negativity on this board while trying to be chuu2 about it, and don't really share any life experiences that make me feel like "wow that dude is really contributing to society" so I would be very surprised if you really have much actual substance to stand on as far as being the morality police (I'm sorry, you don't care about morality because you lose chuu2 points doing that so whatever valuing human rights is that isn't morality).

That doesn't mean I dislike you. That's just me making an honest assessment based on what I've gathered from your posting over the years. It doesn't mean I'm freaking out or fuming here. I'm sorry if that honest assessment has made you freak out or fume. Heck a lot of people would say that about me, and once upon a time I would've agreed with them. I feel I've mellowed out over the years though.
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TopicBlizzard bans and withholds prize money from hearthstone player for HK support
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10/08/19 6:55:30 PM
#274
Lopen posted...
Yeah I think with a more moderate punishment and maybe a warning that further use of the live stream for political reasons by anyone will result in the punishment this guy got would be fair. And obviously no punishment for the casters.

Like I definitely support Blizzard's right to keep political stuff off their streams but this is way over the top to the point where the outrage seems warranted.


First post in the topic btw

But yeah please tell me how I'm backpedaling
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 71 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
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10/08/19 6:41:25 PM
#40
Seymour
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TopicBlizzard bans and withholds prize money from hearthstone player for HK support
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10/08/19 6:40:57 PM
#270
DoomTheGyarados posted...
A lot of people got real quiet when it was revealed both sides of the US Senate are condemning this.


And I condemn this as well for the record! But it's all the severity of the action rather than taking an action at all, for me.
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TopicBlizzard bans and withholds prize money from hearthstone player for HK support
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10/08/19 6:40:04 PM
#268
I don't really care if your opinion of me has changed. Your interaction is not one I value particularly highly. I imagine you've deluded yourself into thinking I care because you've PMed me over Discord a few times and I've responded to them, but that is not the case. We haven't talked in years and I have made no effort to initiate any contact since because you're just a person who talks to me sometimes. No more, no less-- just another person from the board that I'm neutralish on. I'm still neutralish on you and don't really take offense at you thinking I'm scum because it's just not something I think is justified very well so I can't take it seriously. It feels more like you're roleplaying chaotic good here than actually being authentic-- you used to (poorly) roleplay chaotic evil so that would make sense.

I'm not mocking anyone for taking a pro freedom stance. I'm mocking people for thinking that their stance on what Blizzard should have done here is grounds for any sort of superiority as a person when it should basically begin with "I disagree and here's why." Denying Blizzard some money or ragging on people who don't want to raise a huge fuss over this does not make you a saint. With boycotting it's your right to do it, but it's a pretty minor gesture all things considered. The ragging is of course completely meaningless.
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TopicBlizzard bans and withholds prize money from hearthstone player for HK support
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10/08/19 6:17:40 PM
#261
I'm panicing why?

I find your rants against people moderately amusing from time to time but why would I be concerned whatsoever about you putting me in your crosshairs? Even if I was the type to care about how the board at large views me you have no influence on public opinion here and I've picked fights with people with much more.

I mean I may very well be scum this just isn't something that contributes to it in any sort of meaningful way. The fact that you think it does is a bad joke. It feels like you're playing some message board vigilante character rather than being a real person here. I stand up for FREEDOM HA HA SCUM. Yeah put me in my place, dude. Fight the good fight. I'm so glad we have freedom fighters on the board where would we be without you.
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TopicBlizzard bans and withholds prize money from hearthstone player for HK support
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10/08/19 5:48:07 PM
#240
MariaTaylor posted...
my track record on this board is pretty fucking consistent, I don't think this is gonna go how you want it to go.


Yeah. You put on a big show about being superior to people for various reasons without any real substance behind it beyond your "cutting wit." You get off on cutting people down, and don't really contribute anything but negativity here. I know your track record well. Someone like you being a positive contributor to society in any sort of meaningful way sounds like a pilot to a bad comedy where you go out and make everyone you interact with feel worse.

I don't care if you call me scum. It means nothing from you.
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TopicBlizzard bans and withholds prize money from hearthstone player for HK support
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10/08/19 5:28:11 PM
#208
Are you pro freedom and anti censorship? How are you furthering those causes beyond feigning disgust over people on message boards?
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TopicBlizzard bans and withholds prize money from hearthstone player for HK support
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10/08/19 5:26:34 PM
#205
GranzonEx posted...
basic human rights is not an agenda

are you for real right now


Are you?

Do you think my use of the word "agenda" fundamentally changes my point?

Or are you just putting on a show where you pretend to think I'm a terrible person because I'd dare say that some places are not appropriate venues to launch into a tangent, even if the tangent is about "basic human rights," so you can feel better about yourself?
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TopicBlizzard bans and withholds prize money from hearthstone player for HK support
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10/08/19 5:09:18 PM
#186
MariaTaylor posted...
well I don't care about morality at all, but I literally don't get how you could read handsomedude's post and be like "yeah, I'm okay with blizzard censoring and punishing people for speaking out against this." anyone who thinks like that is legitimately dog shit level scum in my eyes.

blizzard did not take a neutral stance here. they chose to selectively enforce a very vague rule that allows them to punish any player for any reason, and they used it to censor and punish someone for speaking out against authoritarian violations of basic civil liberties. I know there are a lot of soft, squishy cowards on this board who take their freedom for granted but I am not one of them.

you are either ignorant, or just straight up trash. that's all there is to it.

once again, this has nothing to do with morality and everything to do with my personal opinion of you


Freedom of speech doesn't apply here, really. It's not as if Blizzard is against the guy saying it and actively trying to censor him through whatever neutral vehicle he wants to use.

But when you use their show as a platform for your agenda they should be able to stop you no matter what the message is.

Like if some guest were to come into your stream while you're playing some Dark Souls game you hate for the 48th time and preach the virtues of I don't know the KKK you would be justified in removing the content from your channel and never inviting the guy on your stream again.

To be clear I disagree with what they did, as it was clearly excessive and caught the casters who deserved nothing as well. But they should have done something about it. A ban from a tournament or two followed by a warning to not do stuff like this in the future would have been more reasonable.

But to be clear I also don't think you putting on a show where you blow your reaction out of proportion here in order to virtue signal makes you a better person than me by any measure. Or anyone, for that matter. It's just not something that really should register. You want to claim some sort of objective value as a person over me do something important with your life. Help people with problems in some way, donate to some charities, I don't know, literally anything that actually matters-- posting some random shit on a message board where you express distaste of Blizzard means less than nothing and shouldn't be impressing anyone.
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TopicBlizzard bans and withholds prize money from hearthstone player for HK support
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10/08/19 4:28:27 PM
#169
redrocket posted...
really


Yes really. It's very dumb that anyone who isn't saying blizzard should be burned at the stake is being treated as morally inferior here. Hell on the morality front many of these people probably do or have done worse things in their day to day lives than "not act appalled by Blizzard over reacting with their punishment to a guy who went on a tangent on their stream." Heck they have done it in my estimation, just looking at crap I read on the board.

You have the right to stop supporting Blizzard because of their business practices. You making the tremendous sacrifice of not spending $10 on WoW or not playing Hearthstone anymore doesn't make you some sort of saint either.

Like you wanna say people are wrong for saying Blizzard was okay to do this, that's fine, but cut the condescension about it
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TopicBlizzard bans and withholds prize money from hearthstone player for HK support
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10/08/19 4:19:18 PM
#162
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Calling it outrage culture when a government is terrible to its people is also really shitty.


This is a reaction to video game company did to a player of its game due to a statement about a government, not the government itself.

Reacting like Blizzard is the scum of the earth is absolutely the type of stuff that feeds the "outrage culture lol" types. I mean I actually disagree with what they did due to the magnitude and because the casters deserved literally nothing, but at the same time they should have done something to the dude because that's just not the venue for this kinda stuff and the company shouldn't be put in that situation by randos on the stream no matter how terrible what's going on is.
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TopicBlizzard bans and withholds prize money from hearthstone player for HK support
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10/08/19 4:06:15 PM
#146
Honestly if you want the "outrage culture lol" thing to go away reeling it in a bit is good so I approve of Corrik's message here.

You can be for or against what Blizzard did without it being about THINK OF DA HUMAN LIVEZ ;_; ;_; ;_;
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TopicBlizzard bans and withholds prize money from hearthstone player for HK support
Lopen
10/08/19 11:39:42 AM
#96
ShatteredElysium posted...
They could have banned him for like 1-2 tournaments and sent out a reminder that you cannot use the stream for political reasons


Yeah I think with a more moderate punishment and maybe a warning that further use of the live stream for political reasons by anyone will result in the punishment this guy got would be fair. And obviously no punishment for the casters.

Like I definitely support Blizzard's right to keep political stuff off their streams but this is way over the top to the point where the outrage seems warranted.
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