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greengravy294 posted...

Golf With Your Friends

I've shot enough balls into a baboon's ass to know this is a lie

The least horny game, now that's a tough one. Pong has paddles, Tetris has the I block, Mario is about a kidnapped princess.

It's gonna be absolutely terrible.

Jeopardy
Wheel of Fortune
Price is Right
Family Feud

First 3 kinda gotta be there. Especially Price, that's such a long running show people's great grandparents have watched it. Like I'd sooner pick it over wheel any day. Family feud is more questionable but yeah, going with longevity.

More Twitter bobs

Wait that wasn't it.
Paramount twit boobs

Dammit.
Paramore X boops

Close enough.

KamikazePotato posted...

In case this gets deleted, I respect how it went for the jugular:

That's a good list.
Personally I'm still wondering whether economics counts because it's highly connected to politics.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/4b4320df.jpg

Tips and stories welcome, will have my own as well.

Primarily going to be in Buenos Aires. Might have some extra trips but sticking to the country, so no Uruguay ferry and no travel to Brazil or Paraguay.

Already know Western Union is my friend.
Also know to avoid Rosario fully already. Easy to do.
Will have some milonga recommendations from tango people I know so that should be well covered too.

Extremely political subject...!

Plug it

Almost time

Yeah, not guilty is the first thought process because it's not that rare to get facts or details wrong; if there's reasonable doubt, then it should be considered that the claimed facts are wrong too.

In general, of course.

Or to simplify, I'd basically call a match where 10% of all brackets and 90% of B8 got right an upset. But a match where 90% of brackets and 10% of B8 get right? That's just us wildly missing the mark and is the furthest thing of one.

Best matches usually have both.

It's surprising to us but not to them. That's the difference of a contest upset on B8 and one overall, which is what the question is. They didn't "get lucky" with Master Chief, they just read the room better.

I'll give an analogy since I don't think you're getting it. Say someone is specialized in a certain betting contest, like horses or football. They crunch numbers, they make bets, they usually get things right but a few things wrong. If a race or game happens that goes wildly out of scope, they adjust accordingly. For reference this isn't a pure hypothetical, people like this exist. Now make a board full of them. What they get right or wrong is not what an upset is in that respective sport, what determines the upset is the people in the overall pool. That includes the casuals. B8 is good at predicting the right 3:1 odds winners. That doesn't mean we're right and sometimes what we think is 3 to 1 is actually the opposite.

It's an outlier yeah but most people had him move on. He was the favorite and performed like it, 3 rounds in and over half the brackets still had him in it, the 4th barely dropped to under half. It surprised B8 but not a contest upset when most people had him advancing. That's just B8 being wrong.

Chief's successful run doesn't feel like much of an upset, that's what make his losses so good.

Yeah uh... "Tax hacks" feels like the kinda thing you'd get into serious trouble for if caught. If you ain't rich enough to have built in hacks, you're poor enough that it'll fuck you up.

Frog was slightly favored on B8 but a huge bracket buster. But I'd consider any bracket buster an upset, regardless of our opinions.

Frog > Master Chief
Knuckles > Magus
Vivi > Mario > Ganondorf
Master Hand > Kuja

I particularly love the last two being viewed together for maximum hilarity. FF9 can be a Nintendo killer or lose to a Nintendo glove.

And Frog over Chief needs some love for being such a good upset with a 7 vote difference. That too is nice to have paired up with Knuckles stomping on his rival in a B8 upset.

Vagrant Story maybe?

Justice...!

I didn't even vote for him, don't think he deserves it. But don't see what logic is being used to DQ him when Ledger's Joker was explicitly an example of where the line is, and Thanos is well past it. Basically fair for him to lose due to not having enough votes, not fair to DQ.

Man, if Thanos doesn't count somehow despite all the differences between character, motivation, scope, then I really don't get how Joker does. One's a completely different person, the other takes the darker characteristics which already existed, especially in Arkham Asylum and Midnight. The personality he acted actually existed in the comics already, whereas Thanos' personality in MCU is pretty much made up.

Thanos in the comics was basically a dude super upset that a skeleton with breasts was ignoring him so he got the infinity gauntlet to impress her, only to find there was nothing he could do and him becoming more powerful didn't matter. Death just plain didn't want to get into a romantic relationship with him and was into Deadpool instead. Killing half the universe was an attempted tribute to show off, the equivalent of a guy buying a girl a new house to impress, but alas, the girl here wanted a cancer ridden jokester who'd show up from time to time. Probably the biggest act of direct rage he had was making sure Deadpool would be immortal, just so that relationship could never happen.

Basically comics Thanos got cucked by Ryan Reynolds so hard the universe exploded.

So it's impressive what MCU did to his character!

bryans7 posted...

Change Thanos to Terminator, sorry I should've read the rules closer.

Movie Thanos and comics Thanos are pretty different honestly. Motivation and personality were basically made up for the MCU, comics version was just trying to bang death. No whole wanting balance or anything like that. Gems were also way, way more powerful. There's some story beats taken but it's largely original and there should be no problem with that version by the rules.

That's a good one. 3rd:

Dr Evil

One million dollars was a huge joke and people still get the reference. All these extra names are basically why I can't consider Joker really, that's one movie versus long running series that were huge. Or in the case of the Witch, just dwarfs everything and had new media created based on her (Wicked), along with laws unique to the circumstances.

KamikazePotato posted...

If you asked 100 people on the street to name Palpatine, I'd estimate maybe 15 could, while 80 could probably name Darth Vader.

I mean I agree but I'm going for who's the bigger villain not who's better known. He somehow made his way into a trilogy he had no right to be in. Other picks I'd probably go with more popularity but for Star Wars I figured going with the villain they keep bringing back and the villain in most of the medium over the one best known. Jason, Jigsaw, Freddy, Chuckie all can be good picks to horror; Godzilla was mentioned and is an interesting idea if he counts, so popularity exists elsewhere.

Wicked Witch of the West

Only must have imo.
From there many questions. I don't think Heath's Joker is nearly enough, there's so many more villains in so many more series. Do have a second pick though:

Palpetine

Yeah him over Vader because he's been a villain in every generation and THE villain that made Vader canonically. There before, during, and after. He's the big baddie.

Yeah I remember hearing that. Tax software has been such a racket that I'm not surprised they'd rather pay the fine over do what they were supposed to do

Super Mario World
Donkey Kong Country
Super Metroid
Chrono Trigger

Looks like we're mostly arguing between 6 to 8 games and all are pretty valid. I go with this because SMW is remarkable as a success and to pushing the SNES into homes, DKC was a huge deal and also pushed platformers forward, Super Metroid created an entire new genre of gaming that is named after this game, and finally CT is a case of legacy. It's not a commercial success relative to the console but it's one of the biggest games that stands out from it in every discussion, its soundtrack is still considered one of the best ever, and it is just plain one of the best examples of a near perfect RPG. Basically, it's here due to acclaim. Which technically is what I think puts Super Metroid over SF2.

I mean Uncharted 1 was basically Tomb Raider.

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Super Mario 64
Super Smash Bros.
Goldeneye 007

Smash over Kart basically.

lordjers posted...

DMC is great but GoW is the one that really took off as a franchise, plus when you think of Sony consoles, Kratos is more associated with it rather than Dante.

If this was the PS4 I'd agree but the PS2 not so much.

Kingdom Hearts vs FFX is pretty fair. It was a Disney game by Square which was pretty huge by itself, then it was an FF crossover game before that became a thing. I'd still give the nod to FFX though, as people do still respect and care about it as opposed to going "yeah the first sucks on both gameplay and level design, the story is still but not a total mess yet, but the idea is cool and music is good." Even at the time, that was the opinion.

Meanwhile FFX was popular enough to get a sequel that made everyone go wtf I'm playing dress up, this is disasterific. Then continue to secretly enjoy it and the songs.

Metal Gear Solid 2
Grand Theft Auto 3
Gran Turismo 3

Amusingly despite being such a stacked console those 3 feel like they have to be locks. All 3 made some revolutionary moments in gaming whether it's visuals, gameplay, storytelling, and mainstream value. Unsure for a 4th. Devil May Cry has the influence for creating a genre but not the longevity as a game; God of War has influence for a series but its breakout honestly is something for the PS4 reboot not here; RE4 is sooner thought about on the GameCube. Ultimately going with:

Final Fantasy X

It was a visual spectacule at the time in a way few games could do, it was popular enough to get a sequel in a series that never had them, and its lasting legacy as a game is still intact, considered one of the best RPGs of all time, on a system known for having some of the best RPGs. It's not FF7 but is probably 2nd to it in terms of blowing people away and maintaining high amount of love years later.

4.0 Aftershock followed that lasted like half the time.

Oh I'm in a similar boat as you, had FF in there initially for that reason. Especially as there's a heavy regional limit to DQ3 being a success and we aren't talking significant number of years difference for anything - it's all a constant trickle. Add in that DQ3 is exclusively cared about on the NES and it's limited there but at the same time this is about the NES. To gaming as a whole, FF1 is definitely more important as without it, you don't have Square. But to that console, I'll edge out DQ3.

CT will be an interesting case in terms of legacy because it certainly isn't the one for sales. It's just that beloved and respected.

As for whether classes would've been a thing in jrpgs, yeah. Again, they were looking at wizardry and Ultima and deciding what kind of RPG with a hero story to do. Square was doing the same. The influence really does go back further but the one who makes a complete package first deserves credit for that, especially when it's a success.

Slime is also getting a new season iirc

Blaziken
Mudkip
Gardevoir
Rayquaza

Anagram posted...

I know all about the SS game, but I don't know anything about S&B other than that it's supposed to be bad. How bad is it that it compares to SS?

It was supposed to be essentially an expanded version of pirate combat in AC4: Black Flag.

Instead it took ten years to be an inferior version of Sea of Thieves and only about sailing. You don't even board in ship to ship combat. And again they had AC4 as a blueprint and still botched it.

Battleborn?

Based on the map of the bridge earlier, some places seem pretty much isolated from the mainland. I also honestly don't think most cities in the US are capable of major rail projects without taking at least 10, 20 years, especially if it's (re)making entire transit paths.

... Damn. That's potentially a massive spike on the price of goods. Food, oil, water. At least most of the cold is over but just basic needs are gonna get hit hard and it just compounds.

FFDragon posted...

Oh my God I drove over that yesterday morning

Legit first person I thought about as well, glad you're physically safe but I can't imagine how devastating this is. Like my thoughts go towards basics resources like food and water, how are they coming into the city and how much will the delay affect price? How easy is it for trucks to get through now? Related to that, how bad will supermarkets get? Of course billions will be lost and jobs that can be work from home are gonna spike if possible but something like this has to impact everything.

On almost always. Surprised by how many are the opposite. Hell I've specific sounds for certain people.

I mean the issue with the shining is also there with Carrie, most people remember the movie. That's the hardest part about this.

It
The Dark Tower

Unsure of the last two but those at least are better known for the books. Especially those pages for It.

Chess
Monopoly
Go
Catan

Did think about Cosby but yeah.

Tricky one.

Agent Smith
Wolverine
Fat Tony

The conspiracy theorist in me wants to mention JFK 's shooter but probably not valid. Fat Tony, and mobsters in general, probably have a place here somewhere. Tommy Devito being the best with that iconic you think I'm funny speech but he's based on a real person. Dunno a 4th yet but had to make sure someone remembers mobs and Mafia.

cyko posted...

I don't think pizza should count for this one. While it earned the nickname of pie, it's not really a pie.

If you look for pi day sales, 80%+ are pizza.
Totally a pie!