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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 3
Forceful_Dragon
03/28/24 7:54:18 PM
#39
Lopen posted...
I think I'm pretty set in this btw.

Like if I start conspiracy braining into my town pile just lynch me right away.

There are two people in your town pile who you said you previously would be lynching today at the exclusion of any others.

Wondering if you knew that.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 3
Forceful_Dragon
03/28/24 7:22:32 PM
#35
Yes I have

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 3
Forceful_Dragon
03/28/24 5:53:09 PM
#32
Lopen posted...
so you're saying there's nothing in your role that you're aware of that implies you scan as anything other than your proper alignment, right?

Correct. As far as I am aware a cop scan would return a result of 'innocent' and something like the role PM scan mzero described would indicate that I am town.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 3
Forceful_Dragon
03/28/24 4:24:51 PM
#30
Lopen posted...
You said you're town but how I read it is you were miller(ish), not outright denying how you're scanned

Why on earth would you assume someone is saying they are millerish or scan guilty based upon them saying they are town? Sounds like a you problem versus a problem with anything I said.

You seem to be of the impression that scum actually scanned me (and with who/what?) whereas I was only of the impression that a caught ulti was going down with a salvo of bullshit.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 3
Forceful_Dragon
03/28/24 4:22:24 PM
#28
wallmasterz posted...
If you are town why wouldnt scum keep you alive if you suspected town? They could leverage your power for mislynches then turn around and blame it on you.

Well I don't think I was suspected at all (since my power doesn't really fit scum and actually causes mylo to be day earlier than expected if I were) but then ulti made that desperate attempt to disparage, which apparently Lopen loved.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 3
Forceful_Dragon
03/28/24 4:20:37 PM
#26
Right the fact that both of them had their own conditions to implode is a good argument in favor of 4.

I guess what I'd want to do not is find out what sort of ability MZero will be using if he's not forced to make himself unlynchable (as he claimed he was able to do). And barring that I'd like to force himself to make himself unlynchable to at least confirm it's a power he possesses.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 3
Forceful_Dragon
03/28/24 4:08:06 PM
#21
4 vs 11

4 vs 10 after mislynch

Assume scare kills someone instead of dying
Assume scum successfully night kills someone else

4 vs 8 after night 1

Assume sultan's gun shows up and misfires again
Assume mislynch on day 2

4 vs 6 after day 2

Assume scum kills
Assume Chris shot misfires
Assume scare decides to gamble again (pocket aces maybe?) and wins again.

There is enough killing to more than end the game after 2 mislynches and 2 night phases.

If ALL the extra killing is scum then that would feel pretty unfair because it would almost never hit scum.

Scare's ek is balanced by being a gamble
Sultan's ek has to be given to someone else, possible restricted to not scummate if hes scum.
We still don't know what circumstances put a gun in Chris's hand but he seemed to say he did not have the option to kill on night 1.

My conclusions are that it might have been 3vs12 to prevent scare from running away with the game with strong RNG and to give Ulti more time to knock out his list before mylo.

And if there is a 3rd party I'd call it Chris?

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 3
Forceful_Dragon
03/28/24 3:58:12 PM
#18
Also I didn't deny being 4th alignment? The hell I didn't.

My response is that scum must surely kill me to stop me from using my power to get them lynched with fewer total votals, and that once I'm dead at scums hands everyone will see me having flipped town.

In what world is "my body will flip town" not a denial? .

If scum is instead going to keep me around to try and throw sus on me for still being alive (which still wouldn't make sense if they thought I was 3rd/4th/5th party) then I'll just do my best to make sure they go down and we still get 48 hours days.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 3
Forceful_Dragon
03/28/24 3:54:10 PM
#17
wallmasterz posted...
Where the heck has FD been

I was on a lot yesterday when day started.

I have been busy at work all day today because it's tax season and I work for the IRS. Being able to post during my shift is a nice bonus when possible, but it's by no means a guarantee.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/27/24 10:59:55 PM
#385
You lynched town day 1 and dead to rights scum day 2?

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/27/24 10:45:43 PM
#375
MZero you feel pretty defensive about something that really only Lopen is giving serious consideration to at the moment.

I've gone as far as to acknowledge it's a possibility, but relegated it as a low% one. But your defensiveness more than his persuasiveness has me reconsidering.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/27/24 10:44:07 PM
#373
Obellisk posted...
Knowing now how many bullets were flying around I'm glad I was safe.

Are you responsible for your own inability to vote or be voted day 2?

Did that carry over into the night phase as well?

iirc you can claim actions you've taken, just not your flavor or the specific name of your role

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/27/24 10:43:05 PM
#371
MZero posted...
why tf would he put two teammates on a list of players he needs dead lmao

you're just making stuff up to fit your narrative

I mean, he would do it so they could get lynched and he could say "see, the list is good! Let's lynch the rest of the list and claim our prize!" But I don't know if 'rule of 3' or 'rule of 5' applies the same way it normally might.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/27/24 10:41:29 PM
#370
SirChris posted...
If you look at the difference between day 1 lynch and day 2 lynch, you get a clue about me.

You voted 3x day 1 and only once day 2?
:shrug:

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/27/24 10:38:24 PM
#366
MZero posted...
well that's how I interpreted it so I don't know what to tell you

You can tell me you agree, and in hindsight the phrasing Lea used indicated Ulti was the MOST likely person of the 4 of us to be shot, because it did. He alone was singled out.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/27/24 10:35:40 PM
#363
Lopen posted...
I personally feel his ideal list would have 2 scum 3 town on it.

Well he didn't have a lot of options because nobody was playing his game.

Lopen posted...
Ulti also drew attention to sbell not being able to be voted randomly

That exchange might be worth another look, especially now that we know it was a temporary condition.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/27/24 10:31:49 PM
#358
MZero posted...
You think I saw a 1/4 chance Ulti gets shot and was like "screw it, bus our automatic win at MyLo"

Calling it 1/4 is disingenuous. She said she didn't have a reason not to shoot the 4 of us, but had NEGATIVE reasons not to shoot ulti (ie, reasons TO shoot him). Assuming all 4 options were equally likely is not a valid interpretation.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/27/24 10:29:33 PM
#356
The fact that SBell had a full day of essentially seeming like a tree and is no longer a tree makes him more of an option than he was yesterday. A scum who can NEVER be lynched is not fair. A scum who can prevent themselves from being lynchable for a single day? That's an option.

And could definitely see it as Loki w/ Tessaract who just winked out of existence to stop himself from being arrested.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/27/24 10:27:10 PM
#354
At this point I'm more willing to lynch either Sultan or Chris than MZero, but not because I consider it impossible for MZero to be scum. It isn't impossible, just feels unlikely.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/27/24 10:25:09 PM
#352
Chris was your kill something you were given, or something intrinsic to yourself?

If intrinsic, is it something you are capable of doing again? Could you have killed someone night 1?

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/27/24 10:21:40 PM
#348
ah-ha!

so SBell is votable today.

##Unvote

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/27/24 10:19:17 PM
#343
SirChris posted...
why didnt you color yourself in green?

Because I never do. The information i'm providing is only what is KNOWN to all. I know i'm town, but it is not flipped for all to see, so it doesn't go in the list.

It's information for all to keep and use as a reference.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/27/24 10:18:10 PM
#342
MZero could be scum, but that Ulti bus was pretty extreme. I guess it might have felt like the thing to do after his miller-ish flubbing? Either way we assume there are 4 more abilities coming from him. Might be able to glean more based upon those, though bisharp, garchomp and hawlucha all sound potentially lethal and even jolteon might induce some kind of vote paralysis?

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/27/24 10:15:58 PM
#339
I can start behaving like myself now i guess. Threw this together just now:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/4946f36e.jpg

Also we need to get to the bottom of this mystery

##Vote: SBell

@ifgodcoulddie a votal update when you have a chance would be lovely.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/27/24 10:10:12 PM
#330
Okay so we know how Lea got control of Ulti's vote now at least and why it only lasted until it was moved.

I'm pretty curious why Kirby implied that people would DIE if they kept voting the same as his, rather than being unable to speak. I guess silencing people is still pretty anti-town, but 2 steps to death is a lot different than 3 steps to mute.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/27/24 10:03:52 PM
#326
What does that even mean? Who did you shoot?

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 412: A Bad Deal on the Good Book
Forceful_Dragon
03/27/24 3:58:27 PM
#30
I mean that literally will be the next sermon at 90%+ of churches this week, but that's Easter for you.

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TopicBarry is officially one of the best stories ever told on TV.
Forceful_Dragon
03/27/24 2:04:32 PM
#2
I watched most of season 1 and meant to get back to it. Guess I should do that.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 412: A Bad Deal on the Good Book
Forceful_Dragon
03/27/24 1:57:07 PM
#19
Why would anyone even buy a bible in this day and age? Do these people not have phones? There are infinity free apps if you want a bible.


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TopicFrancis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore just collapsed.
Forceful_Dragon
03/26/24 9:36:44 PM
#103
Zen knew what the topic needed

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/26/24 8:00:34 PM
#300
You'll have to forgive Ulti. I think he's literally obsessed with me.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/26/24 6:48:02 PM
#293
I have no ability to communicate with anyone at night or to have anything communicated with anyone. So it's either pure fantasy or something someone else triggered.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/26/24 6:45:02 PM
#290
lol Ulti. Nice posturing, but you and I both know that scum is going to have to to kill me at some point to remove the chance of me lynching scum in low player situations. And when you have to do that I'll be flipped town anyways.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/26/24 6:18:55 PM
#277
Blame yourself or God

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/26/24 4:52:00 PM
#257
I told you my T1P1 read is never wrong. Will happily provide the final vote on Kirby tomorrow to show my power was not one and done.

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TopicFrancis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore just collapsed.
Forceful_Dragon
03/26/24 4:46:51 PM
#83
And what's the option here?

Moving the port to somewhere less inland and using trains to get everything from that new location to everywhere?

Or keeping the port as far inland as possible and simply not bridging the waterway at all and using trains to make the now-unbridged areas more accessible?

Either requires an incomprehensible amount of effort to solve a problem that can simply be solved by 'letting boats pass below bridges'

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/26/24 3:47:36 PM
#221
I could see that working with Ron Swanson because he does not believe in the federal government (and would likely oppose voting in all forms?)

Also with Hobbes, who is imaginary.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/26/24 3:45:14 PM
#220
Tree Stump would like to have a word

Which is quite literally all they are good for since they can't vote or be voted. Maybe he's a ?

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/26/24 3:24:06 PM
#209
wallmasterz posted...
I know one way to find out how Kirbys role works

Flip him?

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/26/24 2:35:48 PM
#190
wallmasterz posted...
Saying he wanted to get Chris lynched earlier but not really making an effort to do it feels iffy

I noticed Chris was at 4 votes, 1 shy of what I needed.
I noticed Kirby was around.
I asked Kirby to vote for Chris.

And then votes shifted in other directions. What more was I supposed to do besides say "c'mon guys I REALLY need you to get someone to -2!"

Chris wasn't even my preferred lynch, he's just one I considered acceptable and he happened to get close to the vote threshold.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/26/24 1:38:36 PM
#152
I think Ulti really painted himself into a corner by asking everyone for 5 person lists. I guess he expected larger participation and he'd be able to settle on the easiest looking list. Instead he got stuck with only Lopen responding so he either had to use that list or disregard it and do the action with his own lost of 5.

I tend to agree that ulti should have wanted to bus any scum on the list to make it more likely list participation would continue on future days, but does he know that?

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/26/24 1:27:30 PM
#139
Obellisk posted...
in response to the anti town aspect of his role, couldn't you just as easily say that FDs role is antitown. Taking away a vote and forcing a lynch on unconfirmed could be detrimental to town.

The other perspective is that it requires one less vote to lynch scum AND the full day occurs allowing for more information and thoughts to be discussed.

Also it isn't just that it would be 'bad for mislynches to occur with fewer votes', but it would actually be OP for scum to have a role where they could effectively force mylo 1 day sooner (on top of having at least one extra kill)

I get being wary, but let's be reasonable here

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/26/24 12:30:23 PM
#86
I would say I was still role-playing, but that was textbook FD behavior

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/26/24 12:27:33 PM
#82
SirChris posted...
Ok fd this is easy. All you have to do is agree with this post.

The reason you elected to use your power on ulti is because I have magical time travel powers and went back in time to tell you that ulti was going to be scum. This is why you voted for ulti and had him executed.

Right?

...

Yes. That's exactly why.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/26/24 12:24:59 PM
#78
SirChris posted...
Ok fd this is easy. All you have to do is agree with this post.

The reason you elected to use your power on ulti is because I have magical time travel powers and went back in time to tell you that ulti was going to be scum. This is why you voted for ulti and had him executed.

Right?

Uhh, if I hadn't already indicated this was NOT the case I might be inclined to play along and see where you are going with this.

But I didn't 'use' anything (as previously stated) and I can do it again every day.

And I would just have soon have hammered you if you got 1 extra vote yesterday, I was keeping an eye on it. Which is another thing that I've already mentioned.

So consider me to be the stick in the mud who is NOT playing along and kindly explain yourself.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/26/24 12:21:20 PM
#74
Obellisk posted...
this is literally me every game when looking for key moments and info. You are actively here, asking questions and getting answers is by far easier for me as a player than reading back through a whole bunch of pages and not being involved in the conversation.

It's the 'whole bunch' that I dispute. Almost nothing has happened since you left last night except waiting for my stuff to be host resolved which didn't happen until page 1 of this topic.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/26/24 12:19:01 PM
#70
SirChris posted...
Oh wait. I can prove I am town. I just need fd's help



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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/26/24 12:15:21 PM
#62
Tbh this is easily the worst I've felt about Sbell this game.

Is someone holding a gun to your head making you post right now? (Is it Lea??)

Just read and catch up at your own pace and THEN post. Feels like you're asking the most surface level 'what is obviously happening right now?' questions just for the sake of being part of the conversation. If you had like 1,000 posts to catch up on sure, but you should only be like 2-3 pages behind based upon your last post last night and nothing time sensitive is occurring.

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/26/24 12:06:46 PM
#52
So could Sultan (imo)

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TopicCYOF Mafia Day 2.2
Forceful_Dragon
03/26/24 12:04:38 PM
#50
Obellisk posted...
trying to catch up. I'm home and extremely tired.

we lynched ulti and are still talking I see.

What is FDs thing?

Read post 1 of this topic.

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