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The joke would have been better if you started with Hideo Kojima
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Axiom posted...

pfh1001 posted...

Anyway, if you're going to track down the Bachman books, try to find an old used copy. About 15 years or so ago, King decided he didn't want Rage to be available anymore because of all the school shootings like Columbine as he didn't want anyone to read it & use it as inspiration.

Huh really. I thought Apt Pupil was way more disturbing

Looking this up, I had no idea the guy who played the live action version of Leon in the 1998 RE2 commercial in Japan also played the lead role of Apt Pupil. Insane.
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boxington posted...

EverDownward posted...

I'm more of a fan of the Bachman books, but I definitely like Stephen King on the whole. That said, "The Long Walk" remains my favorite of his work and I wish some sort of visual adaptation would happen even though it'd be pretty difficult to adapt one hundred kids walking and make it interesting enough to hold people for an hour and a half-two hours. Maybe a fake documentary of sorts? I dunno.

they're working on an adaptation

https://deadline.com/2019/05/stephen-king-the-long-walk-new-line-movie-andre-ovredal-directing-1202620157/

Oh man, this is awesome news. I know Frank Durabont had the rights to film it or whatever for the longest time...but even still, I'm pretty excited.
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Zodd3224 posted...

I've never heard or The Long Walk but it seems popular.

After World War II, America has become a dystopian country and one of the ways people vent is by hosting the annual "Long Walk," which consists of one hundred kids across the country coming together to walk and the last one still walking wins "The Prize," which is anything he wants for the rest of his life. Each walker has three warnings that they can accrue before "buying a ticket" on the fourth warning and dropping out of the walk.

It's fucking great. The premise alone instantly intrigued me and when I finally read the book I felt like my money was definitely well spent. What I didn't expect was how sad the story gets at times.
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I'm more of a fan of the Bachman books, but I definitely like Stephen King on the whole. That said, "The Long Walk" remains my favorite of his work and I wish some sort of visual adaptation would happen even though it'd be pretty difficult to adapt one hundred kids walking and make it interesting enough to hold people for an hour and a half-two hours. Maybe a fake documentary of sorts? I dunno.
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I normally do, yes, but this topic has made me doubt continuing it. I wonder why so few do, and that thing about weird infections? What??
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Yo, that's not cool. You need to be at least 13 to post on this website.
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Did Punk show up?
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Turbam posted...

Nobody cares if you are enjoying the game at all, we just want to know what girl you're going to pick

Naoto or bust. Literally.
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I will always prefer the cast of characters and plot of P4 to P5's. It felt much more natural and organic than the whole "Gentlemen Thief" schtick of P5's Phantom Thieves.
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It is somewhat amusing just how prevalent it is these days.
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The Advice Board is that way
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I will, occasionally, say "New email, I hope it come from a female" when I get email.
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ModLogic posted...

not so different to being born in america and shot by cops or end up in prison for having a different skin tone

This has to be the most pathetic use of "yeah, but!" I've ever seen. China is a literal dystopian hellhole, and you want to go on about how bad some cops are. Holy mother of Christ, I hope this is just some shitty gimmick.
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And people thought Charlotte's reign as Daddy's Girl is bad, just wait til Rock's little pebble joins the company.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

"Schadenfreude is bad"

PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

I assume it means not to take pleasure in others defeat or misery, even if they are the enemy.

PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

Means that the "almighty" will handle things himself.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Don't derive enjoyment from the suffering of others.

I appreciate the responses, thanks guys!
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Lines 17 and 18 in particular.

17 - Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth:
18 - Lest the Lord see it, and it displease him, and he turn away his wrath from him.

It seems to me that if you want your enemy to fail, you shouldn't praise when he does because otherwise the Lord will cease from punishing him. But if you don't want your enemy to fail, then the Lord will punish him.

Am I just misreading/misinterpreting these two verses? It seems somewhat hypocritical.

Disclaimer: I'm honestly not trying to start an argument of any kind, I was reading my nightly proverbs and these two verses always confuse me every time I come across them and thought I'd seek some clarity from others that might be better versed in the Lord's work.
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No
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Smashingpmkns posted...

EverDownward posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

Also, gamers are partly to blame at this point

Are you victim blaming?

Gamers are hardly victims. We're actively engaging in supporting these companies with poor business practices and purchasing their microtransactions. Even when it was a no brainer to boycott shit (Fallout 76, Anthem) people still ended up blindly supporting it lol it's like blaming McDonalds for making someone fat.

EA was already most likely feeling the heat from Battlefront, Battlefield, Anthem, etc. doing poorly. If gamers used the same hatred they have for EA towards companies like Bethesda, Blizzard, Activision, etc. there would be a meaningful change within the industry without needing the government's involvement.

Yeah, and what about the gamer that doesn't engage in any of that shit? The guy or girl that doesn't buy microtransactions, that doesn't play gacha, that doesn't play games that rely heavily on such systems? What about them, when they try to avoid such products that become more and more prevalent in series that didn't have such predatory measures in the past?

This shit isn't going to stop, it's only going to become more and more present and obnoxious and spread to more and more titles unless some sort of regulation occurs.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

Also, gamers are partly to blame at this point

Are you victim blaming?
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Prestoff posted...

Yeah I think the "targeted towards minors" part is going to be the loophole a lot of gaming companies are gonna try to exploit. They should just make it so that you can't spend money on random items.

Pretty much this. It needs to be ageless, although I'm well aware the legs for this bill stems from being "for the children." Like I said, it's not aggressive enough.
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This is too weak, it needs to go harder on the offensive. Legislating only pay-to-win lootboxes is a small part of the problem when it needs to attack most lootboxs/microtransactions across all platforms, including gacha and gambling ala CS:GO, etc., save for purely cosmetic items. I really hope they add some legitimate teeth to this bill, because right now it feels like it's barely got any bite to it.
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Blue_Dream87 posted...

Gaming industry brought this on themselves

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It's pretty kewl. A little too easy, but still a solid experience and fun to play.
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Praising the death of whistleblowers feels treasonous as fuck, and like an attack against democracy.
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Mortal Kombat: The Album, which is like a character ost for all of the warriors from the first Mortal Kombat game. It even had the Mortal Kombat song - you know, the one that everybody loves as a bonus.
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Irony posted...

EverDownward posted...

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Crono99 posted...

Meanwhile, consumers are worried about lootboxes.

No they aren't

Speak for yourself

I'm not, the close to 10 million people that bought BF2 are proof you guys are just another vocal minority bitching for attention

It's Star Wars, of course a ton of people bought it.
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TheGreatGeno326 posted...

The p2w whales who pay to get ahead in MMOs because theyre shit at the game are gonna be so fucking mad about this lol

I guarantee you will see people come into this thread that will defend it, and they will continue to defend it as congress makes the bill law. I don't understand some people.
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ultimate reaver posted...

bagan wo che choppa milkshake, solo. hoh hoh hoh hoh

hey now, don't talk about hutt that way. he's not nearly as fat.
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Irony posted...

Crono99 posted...

Meanwhile, consumers are worried about lootboxes.

No they aren't

Speak for yourself
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Cpt_Pineapple posted...

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Zerocide posted...

The freshman senator from Missouri, who plans to soon introduce a bill that will ban loot boxes and pay-to-win microtransactions

This man is my hero
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Dragons are like zombies, now. Tired and played out. Back in 2011 they were still fine and cool, but I'm honestly sick of them. Same with zombies. Same with superheroes.
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DarthAragorn posted...

EverDownward posted...

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KYOJIROKAGENUMA posted...

with part 1 ending with Aeris's death

This is the worst part.

Watch as all of your childhood memories are reduced to an atypical anime cliffhanger.

I mean...what part were they gonna end on? You know it's arguably the most memorable scene from the game, and so of course it makes sense to pull a "To Be Continued..." on it.

How about ending it with beating Sephiroth like they did goddamn 22 years ago

But the marquee scene is Aerith dying.

Missing the point

Point is splitting a game into parts, when the original with far inferior technology was a massive game in one package, is stupid

SquareEnix knows what it's doing when it splits the game up in two, because it knows people will buy Final Fantasy VII, twice over, and they know the scene everybody remembers is Aerith dying - which is why it'll be used to end part one.
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Touch posted...

I was talking about the DI1 one lol

Ah. Yeah, people were mad that the game was different than what marketing led them to believe, lol.
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DarthAragorn posted...

EverDownward posted...

KYOJIROKAGENUMA posted...

with part 1 ending with Aeris's death

This is the worst part.

Watch as all of your childhood memories are reduced to an atypical anime cliffhanger.

I mean...what part were they gonna end on? You know it's arguably the most memorable scene from the game, and so of course it makes sense to pull a "To Be Continued..." on it.

How about ending it with beating Sephiroth like they did goddamn 22 years ago

But the marquee scene is Aerith dying.
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Wait, which trailer? The one that fooled everybody into thinking Dead Island was a totally different game tonally than it actually was, or Dead Island 2's trailer?
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KYOJIROKAGENUMA posted...

with part 1 ending with Aeris's death

This is the worst part.

Watch as all of your childhood memories are reduced to an atypical anime cliffhanger.

I mean...what part were they gonna end on? You know it's arguably the most memorable scene from the game, and so of course it makes sense to pull a "To Be Continued..." on it.
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lilORANG posted...

Remember when people were hyped for it bc of a cinematic trailer?

Those were the days

And how betrayed everybody felt? Lol, good times.
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Literally word for word in Ace Combat: Zero
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Darmik posted...

Has THQ Nordic even published a good game yet?

Uh..yeah? Titan Quest in particular is really good.
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That game is a little too late. I mean, I'm sure people will still buy it but the bankability of its name is a little suspect these days, especially when the original devs went on to make a much better spiritual successor that's getting its own sequel here shortly.
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I like their original chicken sandwich. It's probably my favorite item from the place.
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Extermination for the PS2

Nope, I thought about that game the other day and how hilarious I remember it being. I can't recall if it's because my copy was scratched to hell, or naturally because the game is just that bad but the cinematics and gameplay was pretty loopy.
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I've actually read there's some pretty interesting things you can do later on in the game, but that doesn't make up for the beginning which is probably pretty boring and uneventful.
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I miss WWEPropaganda
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Don't you talk shit about Crush 40.
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I still think Fallout 4 is just a more polished, better Fallout 3 and for the life of me can't understand why people deride it as much as they do.

I mean...yeah, it's no New Vegas, but it's still a fine game.
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