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TopicShould a sexual assault charge ruin your life?
nemu
10/02/18 3:50:07 PM
#27
First offense, no unless it was like multiple children or something, and they serve their time. Second offense, yes, they can go to hell and live in poverty for the rest of their life.
TopicTexted my ex-gf last night. Selfish ****** responds with this.
nemu
10/01/18 7:25:48 PM
#9
If you're actively friends with her, then you need to actually talk to her outside of your pity parties. Forcing her to be your crutch only is selfish.
Topictimespinners turned out to be a pandering mess. thanks sjws. *spoilers*
nemu
10/01/18 6:35:38 PM
#34
SweetieBelle462 posted...
CE trolls downplay the effects of SJWism yet again.

I'm confused. Was this a Kickstarter project that was falsely advertised or something? Like, this narrative is not my cup of tea, but this is an indie project the devs have full control over as far as I can tell. It will either flourish or die depending on how people react to it. Pandering problems come about from overly progressive people taking on existing franchises and shoving it full of their narrative, then calling people x-ist when they don't like the changes made.
TopicA little bit of logic with the Kavanaugh case.
nemu
10/01/18 6:05:24 PM
#65
ledbowman posted...
Lol you're so bad at this.

No, you just have a very stubborn mindset that seems to be mostly based on the idea of vehemently siding with alleged rape victims regardless of them being legitimate or not.
TopicA little bit of logic with the Kavanaugh case.
nemu
10/01/18 5:58:26 PM
#63
ledbowman posted...
nemu posted...
I have no opinion either way

nemu posted...
I think she personally seems like a gigantic drama queen faker from her testimony, but that can easily just be personal bias.

Sorry, meant on Kavanaugh. I don't care if he gets in or not. I'm just looking at this from the perspective of the claims and how they're being used to affect his possible position.
TopicA little bit of logic with the Kavanaugh case.
nemu
10/01/18 5:49:53 PM
#61
ledbowman posted...
nemu posted...
ledbowman posted...
nemu posted...
Her telling people decades later adds no credence to her story.

Yes it does.

No, it does not. It proves nothing other than that she did not make this up last week. You can say "." That's fine. But we're talking about something just short of a court of law here. Any random Joe can say "well, I told my therapist, my lover, and best friend that 'random celebrity' raped me and that I frequent parties that person also frequents." If there are no other details they can provide, then it's completely useless.

On a personal level, that makes me believe her so don't want him on the Supreme Court.

OK, perfectly fair. I have no opinion either way, other than that I don't think she has met her burden of proof whatsoever. I don't think that should be used to decide anything, and that if the allegations are true that it's just an unfortunate situation for her that she can do nothing about. Unless someone is able to come forward to help corroborate, the only thing she has is her word. Kavanaugh being sketchy does nothing to prove or disprove her claims, though if the vote went south because of him being sketchy, completely fair. There are plenty of circumstances where guilty people go free because there's not enough evidence, but that's the unfortunate reality of life.
TopicA little bit of logic with the Kavanaugh case.
nemu
10/01/18 5:36:32 PM
#57
ledbowman posted...
nemu posted...
Her telling people decades later adds no credence to her story.

Yes it does.

No, it does not. It proves nothing other than that she did not make this up last week. You can say "on a personal level, that makes me more inclined to believe her." That's fine. But we're talking about something just short of a court of law here. Any random Joe can say "well, I told my therapist, my lover, and best friend that 'random celebrity' raped me and that I frequent parties that person also frequents." If there are no other details they can provide, then it's completely useless.
TopicA little bit of logic with the Kavanaugh case.
nemu
10/01/18 5:29:02 PM
#54
Her telling people decades later adds no credence to her story. Any insane person could start going to therapy and telling loved ones things. You need a person who can put them at the same place at the same time at very minimum. Polygraphs are complete bunk and prove nothing, daytime TV fodder at best. Even if they weren't bunk, she was only asked two broad questions. Show me a test where she is gone over at length on every little detail.
TopicA little bit of logic with the Kavanaugh case.
nemu
10/01/18 5:19:45 PM
#52
ledbowman posted...
nemu posted...
ledbowman posted...
nemu posted...
ledbowman posted...

It's called being a bad person.

Once again, better than being a bleeding heart. Beyond being nice to a victim you personally know and keeping basic human decency with victims of any crime, "listen and believe" is a crock of shit. Not believing someone who has presented no credible evidence is not a bad thing.

She has presented credible evidence.

Nope. Time, date, place, corroborator, one of the assailants admitting to it, etc. Those are credible. She has none of those.

The evidence she has presented is credible.

Nope. Not a single person exists who can confirm it happened. The only one person who could says she is unable to corroborate it at all, but "still believes her account." That's a whole lot of nothing. The other people can only corroborate on the idea that she has been talking about an assault for several years now, but do not have any details that can help the idea of the actual assault. She is without anything other than her own word, which is not enough to put someone in jail or get them labeled as an attempted rapist for a job interview.
TopicA little bit of logic with the Kavanaugh case.
nemu
10/01/18 5:08:10 PM
#49
ledbowman posted...
nemu posted...
ledbowman posted...

It's called being a bad person.

Once again, better than being a bleeding heart. Beyond being nice to a victim you personally know and keeping basic human decency with victims of any crime, "listen and believe" is a crock of shit. Not believing someone who has presented no credible evidence is not a bad thing.

She has presented credible evidence.

Nope. Time, date, place, corroborator, one of the assailants admitting to it, etc. Those are credible. She has none of those.
Topictimespinners turned out to be a pandering mess. thanks sjws. *spoilers*
nemu
10/01/18 5:04:57 PM
#12
Eh, making the kind of game you want is fine. Make a game with six gay characters, six trans characters, six straight characters. As long as it's not being inserted into an existing franchise, I wouldn't really call it pandering. If the game sells well, good for them. If it doesn't sell well, then it may have to do with the ideological stance, or it could just be a bad game.
TopicA little bit of logic with the Kavanaugh case.
nemu
10/01/18 5:00:12 PM
#47
ledbowman posted...

It's called being a bad person.

Once again, better than being a bleeding heart. Beyond being nice to a victim you personally know and keeping basic human decency with victims of any crime, "listen and believe" is a crock of shit. Not believing someone who has presented no credible evidence is not a bad thing.
TopicA little bit of logic with the Kavanaugh case.
nemu
10/01/18 4:52:44 PM
#42
ledbowman posted...
nemu posted...
ledbowman posted...
nemu posted...
ledbowman posted...
nemu posted...
That doesn't matter.

Lol sad

Do you really not understand why that line of thought is irrelevant? Trying to say someone is being truthful because it would make no sense for them to lie is just a faulty line of reasoning. People will lie for many, many reasons that someone on the outside will never comprehend.

It's not irrelevant but I see how it's inconvenient for you.

She lacks any critical details or anyone to corroborate the story. That is fact as of right now. The only thing she has is a description of what she claims to be the incident and that she has told other people about this supposed incident. Without a single person to corroborate the time, date, or place, she only has her word. Your response is basically "well, someone wouldn't lie about such a serious crime." That is not a defense. That is an appeal to emotion. I don't think Kavanaugh is a saint. Even if he didn't commit this crime, it is entirely possible he has committed other crimes. But that is just my initial emotional thought. It is not reality. It cannot be applied to anything.

You're going through a lot to dodge my point. If she was lying, why would she put only Judge there and not someone else on Team Liar to back her up? She has a lot at stake here after all.

I don't know. That's a dumb question. I don't know what's going on in this woman's head. There is no gotcha moment to be had here. All I'm saying is that she is lacking very critical details needed to prove her case, and beyond someone credible coming forward to support her, she is unlikely to ever have them. I think she personally seems like a gigantic drama queen faker from her testimony, but that can easily just be personal bias.
TopicA little bit of logic with the Kavanaugh case.
nemu
10/01/18 4:38:46 PM
#38
ledbowman posted...
nemu posted...
ledbowman posted...
nemu posted...
That doesn't matter.

Lol sad

Do you really not understand why that line of thought is irrelevant? Trying to say someone is being truthful because it would make no sense for them to lie is just a faulty line of reasoning. People will lie for many, many reasons that someone on the outside will never comprehend.

It's not irrelevant but I see how it's inconvenient for you.

She lacks any critical details or anyone to corroborate the story. That is fact as of right now. The only thing she has is a description of what she claims to be the incident and that she has told other people about this supposed incident. Without a single person to corroborate the time, date, or place, she only has her word. Your response is basically "well, someone wouldn't lie about such a serious crime." That is not a defense. That is an appeal to emotion. I don't think Kavanaugh is a saint. Even if he didn't commit this crime, it is entirely possible he has committed other crimes. But that is just my initial emotional thought. It is not reality. It cannot be applied to anything.
TopicA little bit of logic with the Kavanaugh case.
nemu
10/01/18 4:28:26 PM
#32
ledbowman posted...
nemu posted...
That doesn't matter.

Lol sad

Do you really not understand why that line of thought is irrelevant? Trying to say someone is being truthful because it would make no sense for them to lie is just a faulty line of reasoning. People will lie for many, many reasons that someone on the outside will never comprehend.
TopicA little bit of logic with the Kavanaugh case.
nemu
10/01/18 4:24:42 PM
#30
ledbowman posted...
nemu posted...
Anteaterking posted...
nemu posted...
but if she claims that she can never forget the event itself, the little details should honestly be ingrained into her brain.


That's not how it works.

Which is why I said "It could just be she was that traumatized about it." Different people handle stress and PTSD in different ways, but I'm sure if I was reliving something in my own head day in and day out I'd sure as shit remember at very minimum the damn year.

Wouldn't she give a year if she was lying? And if she was lying, why did she put Brett's buddy in the room as a witness- the only witness?

That doesn't matter. Nothing along the lines of "well, it makes no sense for her to have lied about X because Y" matters when trying to prove a case. That is a horrible line of thought. I do believe she is lying, but it doesn't necessary mean she is actually being untruthful. That's just my opinion from having watched her fake-sounding testimony. It also doesn't mean Kavanaugh is innocent. She just has not done anything to prove he is guilty, which is the important part.
TopicA little bit of logic with the Kavanaugh case.
nemu
10/01/18 4:20:59 PM
#27
ledbowman posted...
nemu posted...
ledbowman posted...
nemu posted...
her inability to remember anything important

Brett Kavanaugh trying to rape her is important.

She's missing the when and where, which is the most important aspect. You can claim anyone anywhere tried to rape you, but it's pointless if all you can give is "probably this year in the town we lived in at some unspecified party that nobody else can corroborate."

Imagine being this shitty.

Better than being a bleeding heart who will believe anything at face value because they made you sympathize with them. I can understand if you want to say "regardless of the evidence proving nothing, I believe her," but you act like she has brought any credible testimony to the table.
TopicA little bit of logic with the Kavanaugh case.
nemu
10/01/18 4:17:22 PM
#24
Anteaterking posted...
nemu posted...
but if she claims that she can never forget the event itself, the little details should honestly be ingrained into her brain.


That's not how it works.

Which is why I said "It could just be she was that traumatized about it." Different people handle stress and PTSD in different ways, but I'm sure if I was reliving something in my own head day in and day out I'd sure as shit remember at very minimum the damn year.
TopicA little bit of logic with the Kavanaugh case.
nemu
10/01/18 4:13:54 PM
#21
ledbowman posted...
nemu posted...
her inability to remember anything important

Brett Kavanaugh trying to rape her is important.

She's missing the when and where, which is the most important aspect. You can claim anyone anywhere tried to rape you, but it's pointless if all you can give is "probably this year in the town we lived in at some unspecified party that nobody else can corroborate."
TopicA little bit of logic with the Kavanaugh case.
nemu
10/01/18 4:05:35 PM
#16
In itself, it is not a reason to inherently disbelieve, but it does make her less credible in that there is little way of confirming anything at all. Personally, I don't believe her at all. She feels fake, and her inability to remember anything important is really telling. It could just be she was that traumatized about it, but if she claims that she can never forget the event itself, the little details should honestly be ingrained into her brain.
TopicHow often do you buy brand new $60+ games?
nemu
09/30/18 9:40:21 PM
#25
Rarely unless it's something I know I'm going to binge over a couple days. Otherwise, I'm generally fine waiting until it's gone down in price.
TopicSNL is trash. Pete Davidson joked about messing with a woman's birth control
nemu
09/30/18 9:18:47 PM
#12
My god why do people need to whine so much about non-issues? Why do I also get the idea that those same people would cheer on the idea of poking holes in condoms or faking being on birth control?
Topicwhy are some people so obsessed with atheism?
nemu
09/30/18 7:38:14 PM
#14
For some people, it's the result of religion being constantly pushed on them, so it develops into an identity to counteract that. Others are just being edgy. Others like the idea of debating against religion in a peaceful manner.
Topic20 million,but you are never allowed to shower or
nemu
09/30/18 6:48:05 PM
#2
Never.
Topicpredict the ending of one piece
nemu
09/30/18 6:24:54 PM
#12
"It's the journey", major war, Luffy dies and starts the next age of pirates.
TopicBizarre Particles Keep Getting Blown Out of Antarctica's Ice Hole
nemu
09/30/18 6:16:17 PM
#16
These articles always end up being a bunch of bunk. "THERE'S SOMETHING SUPER AMAZING IN SPACE!" "Nah, it's just a normal phenomenon anyone with any background knowledge could have told you about."
Topicpredict the ending of HUNTER X HUNTER
nemu
09/30/18 6:14:26 PM
#7
It won't end. Author will die before it ever gets near ending, unless he just decides to say "and so the adventure continued" randomly. But the current progression would be lining up a One Piece sized series of arcs that will never happen due to the constant breaks. If the guy just became the primary writer and hired another artist, it could probably just keep progressing.
TopicI don't tip anyone - period. It's because I'm against worker exploitation
nemu
09/30/18 5:45:03 PM
#22
ModLogic posted...
nemu posted...
While agree that the tipping culture is stupid, I'd still plan on tipping unless you never plan on going to the same place twice.

out of fear?

Pretty much. If he only eats out once in a while, it wouldn't be a big deal to be a cheapass, but they'll remember someone if they go out frequently. Not that anything they would do would be culturally acceptable, but that won't stop it from happening.
TopicI don't tip anyone - period. It's because I'm against worker exploitation
nemu
09/30/18 5:37:26 PM
#16
While agree that the tipping culture is stupid, I'd still plan on tipping unless you never plan on going to the same place twice.
TopicPlaying Spiderman... all the complaint about Mary Jane is
nemu
09/30/18 4:11:54 PM
#13
Theres a balance to it, and I dont think they hit it well. I get she doesnt want to just sit on the sidelines, but she needs to understand she is a normal human woman. I felt the working together scene put it best, but the scene where she is able to stealth taze two dozen trained soldiers is a bit ridiculous.
TopicGay man tricks 4 straight guys into unprotected sex by pretending to be a girl
nemu
09/30/18 12:43:09 PM
#52
People here are confusing. I get the idea of you get what you get when you make a stupid choice, but getting drunk at a party with a bunch of strangers is also stupid choice. I doubt any of the people berating the guys would do the same to a woman who made a stupid decision.
Topiccredit scores are weird.
nemu
09/30/18 12:17:28 PM
#6
They want you to have a certain amount of usage, but not too much usage. It's a bit convoluted in places.
TopicIs it sexist to think there's no woman out there that can beat my ass?
nemu
09/30/18 11:47:49 AM
#25
If we're including nut shots, any well trained woman can probably take down an untrained man of most sizes except for like a Shaq vs some 4'5 woman. If we're talking about a well trained woman and a well trained man, the woman will likely never win.
TopicTips for men to avoid being falsely accused of a sex crime
nemu
09/30/18 11:43:42 AM
#10
There's practical advice and dumb strawman stuff in there. Not sure why women get all uppity about there being practical ways to best reduce the chance of an attack. People need to realize the amount of disgusting criminals will always exist.
TopicKavanaugh probably is a sex offender, but this witch hunt is dreadful.
nemu
09/30/18 9:42:31 AM
#23
I agree on the basic sentiment that we need to get away from this accusation = guilty mindset that a lot of people are developing. He's definitely going to carry this for the rest of his career, regardless of if he did it or not. Her story is ultra flimsy, but nobody seems to care because they're caught up in their own emotions. I'm undecided either way, but at the very least she is far from proving her case.
TopicChoosing a game that's multiplat between Switch and PS4, which do you get for?
nemu
09/30/18 9:16:37 AM
#14
Indie games, probably the switch. The ability to just pause whenever is a lot more doable than the PS4's sleep mode given that I'll sometimes take a break from a game for a week or more. Anything that actually needs the power of the PS4, then PS4 all the way.
TopicIf everyone could stop calling a credible rape victim a liar that'd be great
nemu
09/29/18 9:46:26 PM
#184
ledbowman posted...
nemu posted...
ledbowman posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
The closest things she has to "evidence" are:

A friend who doesn't remember the party, and was never told about it until now, but believes her.

Therapist notes about an assault with no names, locations or even time.

A polygraph test that does not mention Kavanaugh at all.

A husband who believes her.

And three named witnesses who all say they dont remember anything.

Boy, that's a hell of a case you built there

Yes. This is evidence, even as hard as you try to skew it against her. Also:

Attorneys for Christine Blasey Ford, who has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault while they were both in high school, have released sworn statements from four people supporting Fords story about the alleged assault. Kavanaugh has denied the claims.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/26/17905538/christine-blasey-ford-witnesses-kavanaugh-confirmation-hearing

Who cares if she told people decades later? It only proves she didn't concoct this story just recently. She didn't tell them anything relevant enough to actually provide details. They can at best prove that her current recollection is consistent with what she told them.

It is evidence.

It's like you think you're proving a point, but you don't actually understand the words you'e using.
TopicIf everyone could stop calling a credible rape victim a liar that'd be great
nemu
09/29/18 9:40:02 PM
#177
ledbowman posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
The closest things she has to "evidence" are:

A friend who doesn't remember the party, and was never told about it until now, but believes her.

Therapist notes about an assault with no names, locations or even time.

A polygraph test that does not mention Kavanaugh at all.

A husband who believes her.

And three named witnesses who all say they dont remember anything.

Boy, that's a hell of a case you built there

Yes. This is evidence, even as hard as you try to skew it against her. Also:

Attorneys for Christine Blasey Ford, who has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault while they were both in high school, have released sworn statements from four people supporting Fords story about the alleged assault. Kavanaugh has denied the claims.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/26/17905538/christine-blasey-ford-witnesses-kavanaugh-confirmation-hearing

Who cares if she told people decades later? It only proves she didn't concoct this story just recently. She didn't tell them anything relevant enough to actually provide details. They can at best prove that her current recollection is consistent with what she told them.
TopicIf everyone could stop calling a credible rape victim a liar that'd be great
nemu
09/29/18 9:29:52 PM
#168
ledbowman posted...
nemu posted...
ledbowman posted...
nemu posted...
you should at least be able admit this woman has no actual case with what is presented so far.

Um no.

She remembers nothing important about the event that can actually help determine anything. She has nobody who has been able to corroborate at very minimum that such a party with such people even took place. The only thing she has presented is the assault itself, despite remembering nearly no other details, and some stuff that happened in 2012 that proves nothing at all besides the fact that she didn't think of this story yesterday. Maybe the event happened and the trauma has left her unable to recall those details, but if so, then unfortunately that just means she will forever be unable to make him face justice. Words alone cannot and should not affect a person's life.

Ok, so the evidence doesn't convince you. Noted.

I bet you're the kind of person who will stick to the strictest definition of a word you like, but if someone uses a definition for a word you don't like you'll say the dictionary doesn't matter.
TopicIf everyone could stop calling a credible rape victim a liar that'd be great
nemu
09/29/18 9:23:15 PM
#160
ledbowman posted...
nemu posted...
you should at least be able admit this woman has no actual case with what is presented so far.

Um no.

She remembers nothing important about the event that can actually help determine anything. She has nobody who has been able to corroborate at very minimum that such a party with such people even took place. The only thing she has presented is the assault itself, despite remembering nearly no other details, and some stuff that happened in 2012 that proves nothing at all besides the fact that she didn't think of this story yesterday. Maybe the event happened and the trauma has left her unable to recall those details, but if so, then unfortunately that just means she will forever be unable to make him face justice. Words alone cannot and should not affect a person's life.
TopicIf everyone could stop calling a credible rape victim a liar that'd be great
nemu
09/29/18 9:09:18 PM
#152
shockthemonkey posted...
nemu posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Did you listen to her testimony when she explained how memory is linked to trauma?

And again, that is not proof. Her explaining away why her story is flimsy does not make it less flimsy. Even if the accusations are 100% true, I am against him being prosecuted in the court of public opinion or legally if she cannot prove them. If they are true, I'm very sorry for her, and hopefully he'll get brought down by another victim who can recall enough details and provide enough evidence if one exists.

Ok while youre fine with a dude who probably tried to rape someone being on the Supreme Court

Im not

And you're basing that on nothing but one person's story, not looking at it at all critically because of feelings. You're obviously allowed your opinion either way, but you should at least be able admit this woman has no actual case with what is presented so far. Go ahead and say you believe her despite that if you want, but to say she has proven anything is disingenuous.
TopicI feel sorry for kids whose parents had them old
nemu
09/29/18 9:05:06 PM
#19
There was one kid in my school whose father was like 75 and died of a heart attack before his son even finished high school.
TopicIf everyone could stop calling a credible rape victim a liar that'd be great
nemu
09/29/18 8:57:52 PM
#148
ledbowman posted...
nemu posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
nemu posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Dr. Ford gains absolutely nothing from doing this. She gave a credible testimony under oath. Fuck outta here thinking that believing her is politics.

And I'm asking you what makes her testimony "credible" .

And "X has nothing to gain from this" is a logical fallacy when used as an argument that subjective statements must be true.

Youre using credible to mean whatever I say wont count. She explained the trauma and explained under oath why she remembered what she remembered. She gains nothing from reliving any of that and being put in this fucking terrible spotlight, so I believe her over the drunk dude who didnt want to answer anything.

Watching those testimonies and pretending that siding with her is purely political is absolute bullshit.

I'm super confused why "having nothing to gain" lends any credence to why she should be believed. Her mental state is irrelevant in terms of proving things. Explaining away gaps in her memory still does not provide pertinent information needed to believe her statements. I feel like people are stuck on the emotions and not the actual facts needed to prove her accusations to a degree reasonable enough to declare this man guilty in the court of public opinion.

Oh yeah youre right she was definitely lying for no reason

I don't know for certain if she's lying, but I do know she has not proven her case. It's entirely possible she was never touched and has just developed a delusion. It is entirely possible she was assaulted by another person. I cannot say for sure, but what I can say is that no person should be believed with a flimsy story and no pertinent evidence. I don't understand why that is so hard for people to understand. No evidence = no crime, even if the crime happened. It's how our entire system works.

There is evidence.

You know what I mean. Stop pretending you don't.
TopicIf everyone could stop calling a credible rape victim a liar that'd be great
nemu
09/29/18 8:57:28 PM
#147
shockthemonkey posted...
Did you listen to her testimony when she explained how memory is linked to trauma?

And again, that is not proof. Her explaining away why her story is flimsy does not make it less flimsy. Even if the accusations are 100% true, I am against him being prosecuted in the court of public opinion or legally if she cannot prove them. If they are true, I'm very sorry for her, and hopefully he'll get brought down by another victim who can recall enough details and provide enough evidence if one exists.
TopicIf everyone could stop calling a credible rape victim a liar that'd be great
nemu
09/29/18 8:51:36 PM
#143
shockthemonkey posted...
nemu posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Dr. Ford gains absolutely nothing from doing this. She gave a credible testimony under oath. Fuck outta here thinking that believing her is politics.

And I'm asking you what makes her testimony "credible" .

And "X has nothing to gain from this" is a logical fallacy when used as an argument that subjective statements must be true.

Youre using credible to mean whatever I say wont count. She explained the trauma and explained under oath why she remembered what she remembered. She gains nothing from reliving any of that and being put in this fucking terrible spotlight, so I believe her over the drunk dude who didnt want to answer anything.

Watching those testimonies and pretending that siding with her is purely political is absolute bullshit.

I'm super confused why "having nothing to gain" lends any credence to why she should be believed. Her mental state is irrelevant in terms of proving things. Explaining away gaps in her memory still does not provide pertinent information needed to believe her statements. I feel like people are stuck on the emotions and not the actual facts needed to prove her accusations to a degree reasonable enough to declare this man guilty in the court of public opinion.

Oh yeah youre right she was definitely lying for no reason

I don't know for certain if she's lying, but I do know she has not proven her case. It's entirely possible she was never touched and has just developed a delusion. It is entirely possible she was assaulted by another person. I cannot say for sure, but what I can say is that no person should be believed with a flimsy story and no pertinent evidence. I don't understand why that is so hard for people to understand. No evidence = no crime, even if the crime happened. It's how our entire system works.
TopicIf everyone could stop calling a credible rape victim a liar that'd be great
nemu
09/29/18 8:47:05 PM
#139
shockthemonkey posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Dr. Ford gains absolutely nothing from doing this. She gave a credible testimony under oath. Fuck outta here thinking that believing her is politics.

And I'm asking you what makes her testimony "credible" .

And "X has nothing to gain from this" is a logical fallacy when used as an argument that subjective statements must be true.

Youre using credible to mean whatever I say wont count. She explained the trauma and explained under oath why she remembered what she remembered. She gains nothing from reliving any of that and being put in this fucking terrible spotlight, so I believe her over the drunk dude who didnt want to answer anything.

Watching those testimonies and pretending that siding with her is purely political is absolute bullshit.

I'm super confused why "having nothing to gain" lends any credence to why she should be believed. Her mental state is irrelevant in terms of proving things. Explaining away gaps in her memory still does not provide pertinent information needed to believe her statements. I feel like people are stuck on the emotions and not the actual facts needed to prove her accusations to a degree reasonable enough to declare this man guilty in the court of public opinion.
TopicHere's what paying $2200 a month in rent in Toronto gets you
nemu
09/29/18 6:28:30 PM
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While that's obviously a joke post, it's scary that someone somewhere is living like that.
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