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Obellisk posted...
corrik doesn't throw in the towel.
one for one with blade is not the ideal play with 17 players alive.
The problem Corrik ran into was simple.

He said he roleblocked me, I said I know I wasn't.

So he changes his claim to say it wouldn't inform me, but that's not possible.

Corrik's claim isn't suicide against most role types in mafia. It is against mine. Corrik didn't know he was claiming scum when he revised the claim instead of recanting it.
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Corrik7 posted...
Discrediting play in a game you weren't even in.

I had my reasons.
I asked why

People said "I don't know it seemed random"
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ctesjbuvf posted...
Scum Corrik being a man down deciding to lie about blocking someone that has a great chance of calling the lie seems like such a bad idea.
Yet there's no other explanation here given MZero apparently forgot to act last night.
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Obellisk posted...
because corrik killed scum in 1 post last game
Corrik randomly dayvigged IGCD for no reason anyone can figure out how would this be remotely comparable.
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TotallyNotMI posted...
I support lynching Wallz not because I'm convinced that the NK was stopped by the jailkeeping (although it's possible) but because he claimed confirmable D1 to get pressure off of himself as a backup.

I agree with what whoever said earlier that if he is Scum Backup he could get access to Knightz OP role and I don't want that to happen.
The best theory here on that is actually really simple.

Wallz being scum backup could explain Knightz basically being left to die late in the day. It would make it a lot more likely that your lynch had 0 scum rather than multiple.

But no, I don't get how backup is ever "confirmable".
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htaeD posted...
Blade absolutely does not need to claim if he is already telling us there is no way he could have been blocked
Correct.
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UltimaterializerX posted...
##Unvote
##Vote: Wall

Pegged him scum before his first post because I am that good at day one.

And Wall dies first because if hes mafia backup we cant risk Knights role getting backed up and used tonight.
Corrik is still the lynch today, not Wall. Lynching Wall is using the exact same faulty logic Corrik was spouting at me.

Wall isn't confirmed scum. Corrik is. You kill Corrik first.
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Obellisk posted...
I didn't ask him to reveal himself.

I asked if he was willing.

corrik is doubling down on his shit.

Blade isn't willing to lock himself into a claim.

I think it's all fucking relative thank you.
I have no reason to claim because someone who hasn't played a remotely townlike game and now essentially just got counterclaimed is sticking to a claim against me that we all know at this point is BS.
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TotallyNotMI posted...
I think it's even worse than that Blade

SBell is asking you to say WHAT your action was.
Oh so he was.
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Obellisk posted...
Blade, are you willing to claim your action that was not blocked by corrik?

To sum up why this post is so worthless and basically the pinnacle of fake content.

Basically the last thing I did last night was say it was impossible to have roleblocked me without my knowledge.

It's asking a "relevant question" for the sake of asking a "relevant question" but to ask it at all was completely needless.
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(And we all know Chang probably isn't going to do shit but make people want to murder him)
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By the way barring Chang actually producing something meaningful we still lynch Corrik today.
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SBell asking me to reiterate what I've already said like a dozen times is a bad look.
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htaeD posted...
Oh I guess hosts could allow that when discords arent available.
I am just so used to PM communication not being allowed that it didnt cross my mind.
A scumteam may communicate through any medium it likes so long as it is private.
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Death is going to find it fun when he sees how much I was soft defending the guy late in the day.
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htaeD posted...
Random theory time for myself
Ulti is actually scum and he could not talk to Knightz due to his discord aversion so he blatantly signalled to Knightz INTOPIC that he expected him to claim vanilla.

Not at all a believer of this. But I want credit for it postgame on the off chance that it turns out to be true.
Wouldn't a gamefaqs pm be way better
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Doesn't matter. I mean Corrik is probably just scum either way and if MZero is scum (he isn't) and wants to tie himself directly to Corrik more power to him.

It's not like scum wouldn't have already thought of doing that to begin with in that scenario.

But also it opens up other possibilities. If MZero targeted Corrik, it's possible he's just being awful town and that scum tried to kill someone other than me, and that Corrik's actions are completely unrelated to everything.

Basically that comedy option removes both the biggest scum point on Corrik and the biggest town point on me.

And I would personally go for Kirby first in that exact scenario.
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I just thought of an amazing comedy option.

A fantastically amazing comedy option that is the one and only scenario where there IS a chance that Corrik is town, because it breaks the most damning part of his claim.

And that's if MZero targeted him last night.

If MZero targeted him, and only if he targeted him, Corrik isn't actually confirmed scum.
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And no, he's never given a reason why. I don't think that's the most important part though. It isn't even his obstinate insistence that it makes me scum.

The killer thing about Corrik's claim is ultimately that it's impossible for me to have been roleblocked without my knowledge.

My immediate reaction was to be completely clear that it didn't happen. I wasn't assuming I wasn't, I was saying I wasn't.

He retorted by saying I wouldn't have been informed.

But that's impossible. As soon as he doubled down on his fake claim, he hung himself.

When it comes down to it, the whys really don't matter here.
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htaeD posted...
Yeah I remember
The time was never right. It was that simple.
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I mean my Bloodborne team had a kidnap and we never even used it.

There's rarely an instance where you're forced to use something that early, and being behind actually makes it all the more prudent to use it right.

A scumteam that loses that kind of role day 1 cannot afford to lose me. I wouldn't use a ninja or strongman kill down my roleblocker after day 1 no matter who had the power. The only way I send the kill is if something is forcing me to do it.

While that's possible, Corrik would still have no reason to be treating a roleblock as a scum scan.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
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htaeD posted...
Did Corrik even say WHY he blocked Blade?
Plus he should be smart enough to know a rb like that does not scumconfirm someone 100 %
What's funny was the idea that I would ever send a kill night 1 to begin with.
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htaeD posted...
Thats why I am still wary of Chang too since he was angling for people to jump on to either me or Corrik.
Corrik also kept calling for my or Wallz lynches for no given reason whatsoever.
Corrik was like a lazy version of Chang as far as defending him went.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
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changmas posted...
anyone who isn't hyped for my event tomorrow will be made to play boar on the floor for everyone else's amusement. you'll be humiliated.

off to bed for me, toodles !
You're one of those guys who uses rest 20 times just to stall even after you've already lost the match aren't you
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Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Well that and no one dying last night.
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htaeD posted...
I am all over the place here I know but

This feels like exactly the same kind of post that Ben rightfully called me out for last game. A bunch of thoughts that I dont expect town to bother with but scum definitely wants to get ahead of. Plus an added touch of fishing for claims.
Kirby's insistence on hyping up the taunter and bringing MZero into it has not once sat right with me, especially since no "doctor with a brain" even considers MZero for a save.

It's a lot of words that feel like they do nothing but try to set up MZero's target to be scum.

The feel I get out of Corrik and Kirby's actions is a scumteam that's in a big hole because of all the damage Knightz did to them chasing after information and mislynches.
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I don't understand why BG counters BP though
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But also the difference between that Kirby post and the last one that kinda looked like that is the inflection of the word "town" feels different.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...
I don't need to relitigate Toy Story again, but suffice to say I disagree with the decision not to act.
I don't know the exact situation but considering I outright did not protect confirmed town day 3 as BG and it worked out perfectly uh
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Isquen posted...
I call bullshit. Clearly I am Isquendra. This is not oquay.

But more importantly,
##unvote
##vote: Kirby

Either that was one hell of a typo or a major perspective slip, re:
I knew something was off but yikes.

I mean I've made it pretty clear I'm on board with Kirby pressure, though we basically already have a scum on lockdown today.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...
How does the 100% confirmed Mason Cop sound for an obvious target to save? Because he KNEW who that was knights 2 and 3.
Depends what other protection may or may not exist. Scum likely isn't cold shooting cop in that situation ever anyway out of fear of a doctor.

Like I didn't target the obvious save on night 3 that game because I correctly predicted Greengravy (who was EBG) would.
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Yeah too far down the rabbit hole
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Forceful_Dragon posted...
Yeah I see that, it's just such a bold play. But so is targeting you on night 1. I can buy that scum will be playing with a "we're behind and have to highroll" mindset so they might make riskier decisions.

But by that same token that means those of us in town need to make safe plays. We just need base hits, not home runs.

We almost fell apart in toy story thanks to our bodyguard who (a) didn't save anyone for 3 nights and (b) counterclaimed the town BP

Which nearly resulting in multiple mislynches >_>

So let's keep that in mind when deciding if we want to do crazy things mmkay?

I'm sure just saying this will have Chang calling for my head again for being boring.
Not nearly the same. We have Corrik caught in a lie and then changing his claim and being caught in a lie again. This is a situation where town Corrik has zero justifiable motive in any capacity to be doing this.

Also as Bodyguard I didn't act for three nights either, and then made what was effectively a game clinching save for town on night 5. A good BG doesn't act early on without an obvious target to act on. The only reason I lived night 4 was the scumkill got roleblocked.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
PunishedBen posted...
Its a great post to bring up and a great point. I'd like to see how he responds.

I was saving this for after we find out if Chang is confirmed town or not, but since I'm pretty confident he is...

This post from the end of day 1 feels too pre-emptive. Makes sense to say on day 2 but not before Knightz flipped scum. Feels like the start of the setup to push the Chang lynch today. Remember how I said I was looking for the scum yesterday who had moved on from Knightz halfway through the day and were just setting up for the next day? That feels like Wallz more than anyone
I said it on day 1, but I feel like I've spent a bunch the game being told to suspect Chang mostly for reasons I didn't buy and Chang has never had a lot of votes.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
It is possible scum thought I was BP and that Corrik could get away with the claim, I had not thought of that at all actually.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Forceful_Dragon posted...
How, by claiming to have roleblocked you? I'm not following this conclusion.

If scum shot at you and you survived they would assume doctor save and to a lesser extent that you might be BP.

But that's still only if Corrik is scum and that's what motivated the claim.
By trying to out the person who saved me.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
red13n posted...
(nothing about corrik's claim makes any sense)
The only way I can make sense of it is if he were planning to recant the claim after fishing out the doctor, and he wasn't expecting me to immediately brick his claim (both versions of it). His actions specifically haven't made any sense as coming from town because there's a logical fallacy at their very basis that he refuses to even address.

Also I feel like Wall gave some niche reason about Isquen playing with "attitude" or something. It wasn't a great reason for having him so highly town but it was something.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
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UltimaterializerX posted...
WHERE IS THE LIE WALL?????
It doesn't make a bit of difference guys

The Wall is inert
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Why
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Your late miller claim is one I think only me and one other picked up on as scum.
Dude you towncleared me for it almost immediately.
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Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Also Lopen got shot night 1 last game and town won

Coincidence? i think not.
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I mean to be fair I played an excellent scum game to the point where I may not have been caught anyway but he made it much easier (and more agonizing) than it needed to be.

The move I pulled off on day 3 was sick and done entirely unplanned
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How is asking one question for the sake of curiosity equal getting lost in speculation
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Also to assume I would ever as scum even consider wasting a power on making Lopen of all people disappear is frankly pretty insulting not gonna lie.

Lopen is a huge part of why scum won Bloodborne and was practically our MVP.
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PeaceFrog posted...
Fd already proved that it occurred almost to the second 24 hours after your start of topic action. "What was Lopen doing then" without knowing what the conditions of it was, or anything like that, is probably going to be useless speculation that gets us nowhere. It's as much of a time waster as the Chang reveal.
We're basically just wasting time right now anyway waiting for more people to show up to the day. The people currently in the topic are basically out of things to talk about.
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PeaceFrog posted...
If enough people think it makes you scummy enough to vote for, whether that is today or on a future day, you might start to care!
Anyone who thinks a question like that is scummy is either a fool, or scum themselves.
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Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
The purpose of the question was to discern if Lopen may have been doing something at that time that might explain him being targeted at that time.

It doesn't actually assume anything at all.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Corrik7 posted...
Are we seriously not gonna hammer the caught scum? If not, at least kill wallz.
Don't worry you'll be hammered after Chang does.... Whatever he's going to do.
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PeaceFrog posted...
This implies that the action was put in at the time right before he vanished and i don't like you implying that, Blade.
Am I supposed to care?
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Same thing he always does.

I guarantee you hes sitting in DTC right now pretending he contributed something relevant.
He could technically just be kidnapped and still alive.

Either way he's probably spamming somewhere about how much people obviously need to lynch me today.
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