Marvel Snap Topic 23: Nova Enough Bubs

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Alliances are now in the game, someone will have to make a B8 one!

First league starting August 8th (I think this is the super p2w crap so who cares)

BALANCE UPDATES

Uatu
[ Old ] 1/2 - At the start of the game, shows the right location to you.
[ New ] 1/2 - At the start of the game, shows unrevealed locations to you.
We were reluctant to limit Uatu's vision when we first changed the effect to work from the deck, but it felt needlessly risky to remove a lot of the tension and mystery from locations for players earning Uatu early on. However, we've grown comfortable with the idea and hope fans enjoy Watching the whole field on turn 1 in the future.

Moon Knight
[ Old ] 3/3 - On Reveal : Discard a card from each players hand.
[ New ] 3/3 - On Reveal : Discard a card with an even Cost from each player's hand.
Moon Knight's a great character, but has struggled to find a good home even when discard is popular. We've kept "improve Moon Knight" on the whiteboard for a while, and today we're crossing that off. We did debate redesigning the card, but we've also heard your feedback when we do that in a way that fundamentally changes the card for fans it already has, as we did with Adam Warlock. This tweak aims to make the card a more suitable pairing with Stature, one of the most popular ways to play Moon Knight already, as well as Swarm and Apocalypse. It may also make Moon Knight a useful threat against decks that rely on single 6-Cost threats, like Red Hulk.

Shadow King
No text change; setting no longer considered raising or lowering Power.
The interaction of Luke Cage stopping Shadow King and various other corner cases which result in Shadow King adding negative or positive modifier have proven confusing for players. Weve decided to adjust Shadow King because this effect specifically feels like it should be cleansing modifiers, not adding more to counterbalance whats already there. Were keeping this distinct from Valkyrie because that effect does specifically add a modifier to other cards, and feels like fair game for Luke Cage to prevent it

Blink
[ Old ] 5/7 - On Reveal: Swap the last card you played with a higher-Cost card from your deck.
[ New ] 5/7 - On Reveal: Swap the last card you played with a card that costs more from your deck.
We've made two changes to Blink. The first is functional: we've adjusted the ability to check the cards in your deck based on what they currently cost, not their original Cost. This means that she'll see cards the same way that Jane Foster sees them. It's not an inconsistency that came up much in gameplay, but it didn't make sense that Jane and Blink could both grab a Negative Iron Man that's a 0/5. However, like all cards already do, Blink will still care about the original Cost of the card in play to determine the one from the deck.
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I will join the B8 group when it's made

Or eventually make it myself later if not one does
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That Moon Knight change is huge BUT I wish the text had a fallback discard if the opponent has no even cost cards in their hand
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Some datamined stuff

Agent Venom 2/4 On Reveal: Set all cards in your deck to 4 power

Anti-Venom 4/6 On Reveal: Set the cost and power of your decks top card to 0. Uh.

Misery 5/10 On Reveal: Repeat the On Reveal abilities of your other cards here and then destroy them

Scorn 1/2 When you discard this give its power to one of your cards in play. Return this to your hand with +1 Power

Scream 2/1 When an enemy card moves steal 2 power from it (once per turn)

Toxin 3/2 On Reveal: Return your other cards here to your hand. +2 power for each card returned

[B8A] Board 8

I can change the tag (and everything else) later if anyone has better ideas. I think you just have to search for that? I'll make it a public alliance once we have all the regulars
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What cards are coming in the Spotlight today? I couldnt find them
Proxima, Hope, and Nico last time I checked. No new card
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swordz9 posted...
What cards are coming in the Spotlight today? I couldnt find them

It's three old ones. Nico, hope, and proxima

oh i got beat

applied to the alliance
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#theresafreakingghostafterus
Awww well its an easy skip at least unless the Nico Spotlight is amazing
I've finally been broken down by the mass of currencies I have (10 keys, 30k tokens, 11k gold) that I'm finally just going to start buying variants.

But not for albums, which would make sense. Luchador variants and Nico variants. So I might pull depending how good it is
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I believe it's gonna be the same Nico spotlight variant that released when she first came out, unless that was just a placeholder that got changed this patch. Guess we'll see in 3 hours
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I applied. Im Illusions, Michael.
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Has an identical Spotlight variant ever been repeated? I know they just recently added some old ones to the shop, but I dont recall any repeating on purpose. I think HE had one that did once on accident?
Arishem also now applies his border to all the cards he generates
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Am I an idiot I don't see the Alliance stuff anywhere in game
I am Nick. Go Sens, Bills, Blue Jays, RedBlacks!
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Bottom right icon next to the Diner/Conquest one. Might not be there if you havent updated?
Silly me assuming the update would be automatic oops
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I applied. My tag is Mysterio?
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The lone Silver among all you Infinite dudes
With the update my zemo credits mission turned into a gwenpool gold mission so I just raced to finish that before the flip
If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person?
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FFDragon posted...
With the update my zemo credits mission turned into a gwenpool gold mission so I just raced to finish that before the flip

Haha yeah I only did the credits mission earlier so I had a Gwenpool and Copycat mission for gold and tokens after the patch.

We'll see if I get another one during the next weekend or not.
skull
Oh the bounties refresh right at this time on this day

Maybe hold the alliance stuff until after the reset then!
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So my Spotlights show Proxima, Hope, Premium Variant and Random. Guess they did do a repeat Nico Spotlight?
Wow these solo rewards are awful for the Alliance. 4000 points in a week and the reward is 150 credits and 130 boosters.

That's like 2 daily quests.

I just grinded a mission to win 8 games with Thor/Odin and it was 250 points. So they expect you to do 2 of those caliber quests a day just to get 3500 points.

Yeah you get points from cubes too but this is probably the grindiest system they've released so far with basically no reward.

Also, from reddit:

In order to get the mystery variant every week (120k points) a full clan of 30 needs to average ~571 points per person per day.

So yeah don't look forward to us completing that each week lol.
skull
Also the daily 50 credits turned into 25 credits every 8 hours, in case anyone didn't notice
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So I got 800 points playing more than I have in weeks just because the bounty system seemed cool.

Definitely gonna need to tone those down. Half the requirements and it might be ok.
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skullbone posted...
Wow these solo rewards are awful for the Alliance. 4000 points in a week and the reward is 150 credits and 130 boosters.

That's like 2 daily quests.

I just grinded a mission to win 8 games with Thor/Odin and it was 250 points. So they expect you to do 2 of those caliber quests a day just to get 3500 points.

Yeah you get points from cubes too but this is probably the grindiest system they've released so far with basically no reward.

Also, from reddit:

In order to get the mystery variant every week (120k points) a full clan of 30 needs to average ~571 points per person per day.

So yeah don't look forward to us completing that each week lol.
Geez that's hilarious.

Application sent, CatGuyNeko.
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man you and swordz are only 6 points apart in collection level

nick and ffd also only 131 apart but 6 is crazy
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Oh wow lol. But also I didn't expect to be one of the lowest CL out of us O.o

I think some people still don't realize that the game auto-snaps in DD. Every now and then, I get someone who throws a Thanos emote at me at the end of the game they win, some even spamming it. People are dumb.
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Cassandra Nova acquired!! I finally ran into one of those mythical bub donators who donated a nice 1.8 mil to me and then I got couple lucky wins that put me over the 15mil mark. I can finally relax a bit and grind a little more casually towards the variant.

And speaking of, I keep seeing people talk shit about the variant but I think it's pretty sick and would like to have it.
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I like the variant but no way am I gonna go for that amount of points for it
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Just gonna hope I get lucky If I don't make it, it won't be a big deal. At least I got the new card. It's crazy when you think about the cost of a new card in terms of actual money, they're like $55-$70 monetary value because of how stingy the game is with giving new cards.
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I also applied.
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Just played against a Galactus deck for the first time in what feels like forever. That takes me back
I am Nick. Go Sens, Bills, Blue Jays, RedBlacks!
UotY 2015, You should listen to The Show w/ Ngamer and Yoblazer
I think one of my absolute favourite things in this game is when someone is playing a really fucking scummy deck and they emote spam on you when they've lost to some basic bitch deck your playing because you beat them.
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This Loki discard deck someone posted on reddit is funky and kinda works.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/0e1423dc.jpg
https://backloggery.com/cwistofu
https://letterboxd.com/cwistofu/
So what are the good decks these days. I just kinda make random ones I like, but that never gets me over the 80s
I am Nick. Go Sens, Bills, Blue Jays, RedBlacks!
UotY 2015, You should listen to The Show w/ Ngamer and Yoblazer
Well there's about to be an OTA tomorrow but basically some form of Arishem deck or something like this which counters Arishem are probably the best two decks

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/4496cb24.jpg

that being said I think there's plenty of viable decks. Just some get screwed pretty hard by Arishems playing Leech and Doc Oc. I assume Thena and something in Arishem at the least is getting hit by the balance patch tomorrow, though
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OTA? Didn't we literally just get a patch 2 days ago?
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I cant believe they havent patched the Variant Shop to show you the specific album it goes to. Really annoying having to click back and forth.
Phantom Dust.
"I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado
So I guess they changed the way free credits work...
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Yup, love when they downgrade existing features.
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It's a side grade. More total per day, but you have to log in more.
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OTA Update

Loki
[ Old ] 4/5 - On Reveal: Transform your hand into cards from your opponents starting deck and give them -1 Cost.
[ New ] 3/5 - On Reveal: Replace your deck with your opponent's starting deck. Give those cards -1 Cost and draw a card.
It took a few shots to land Loki in the right spot, but the goal had been accomplished. However, as time has passed, our preference for using Loki as a buildaround for decks that generate extra cards has shifted. It's proven too stifling to cards like Snowguard and Agent Coulson, who can't really stand on their own anywhere, as well as future designs we've worked on internally. Given Loki's recent resurgence alongside Arishem, it felt like the right time to try capturing that fantasy without diminishing those other cards. We don't want to "banish Loki from Asgard" with this change, so we're erring stronger to avoid that. If we need to come back for a buff or nerf, or if this rework doesn't succeed for other reasons, we'll consider something else.

Leech
[ Old ] 5/5 - On Reveal: Remove the text from cards with On Reveal abilities in your opponents hand.
[ New ] 4/4 - On Reveal: Remove the text from 6-Cost cards in your opponents hand.
This has been a tricky card for us to land where we want it. The last change proved we had enough overlap from other effects to avoid leaning on Leech as an all-purpose answer. However, the function has primarily been a tool for letting decks brute force their strongest stuff through defenses, rather than answering otherwise overpowering strategies. We're going to try narrowing it further and targeting a more specific scope of threats. We're also going to aim weak, in case we're underestimating the effect, to give most honest folk a break from getting Leeched.

Doctor Octopus
[ Old ] 5/10 - On Reveal: Pull 4 cards from your opponents hand to their side of this location.
[ New ] 4/8 - On Reveal: Pull the lowest-Power card from your opponents hand to their side of this location.
The good Doctor had settled into a career as a niche player in the SNAP metagame for quite a while, until Arishem showed up. While Arishem is enabling more aggressive Ock plays, the true lesson has been that when Ock is seeing a lot of play . . . that can get fairly frustrating. Given we find ourselves in a spot where we have a card we kind of don't want people playing in volume, that makes it a solid candidate for a rework. Our goal here isn't specifically a nerf, but rather to continue capturing the fantasy of the card with an implementation that's more fun and will be a healthier addition to the metagame. Plus, 4/8 is a pretty great statline for creative reasons.

Widow's Kiss (White Widow)
[ Old ] 0/0 - Ongoing: This has -4 Power. Disable this ability if your side of this location is full.
[ New ] 0/0 - Ongoing: This has -3 Power. Disable this ability if your side of this location is full.
Enough time has passed for White Widow to see the breadth of the card's impact, and it's showing up more often than we aimed for, and in a wider variety of decks. The strength doesn't feel especially far off, so this small tweak down on the effect should help balance things out.

Blob
[ Old ] 6/0 - On Reveal: Merge cards from your deck into this until it gains 15 or more Power.
[ New ] 6/0 - On Reveal: Merge cards from your deck into this until it gains 13 or more Power.
One of the winningest cards in Arishem decks has continued to be Blob. The specifics of that gameplay aren't very satisfying, because Blob tends to wind up fairly close to a 6/17 or better without a drawback in these decks. Our goal with Blob is to encourage some meaningful deckbuilding differences or charge a steeper price for the strength, so that's not working out. Turning the knob down will weaken Blob in Arishem while leaving some strength to build around in 12-card decks.

War Machine
[ Old ] 4/6 - On Reveal: Until the end of next turn, nothing can stop you from playing cards anywhere.
[ Change ] 4/6 -> 4/7
War Machine hasn't found a consistent home, indicating there's room to add extra Power. A larger contributor to the low play rate may be our revision to Professor X leaving players without enough incentive to find a slot for War Machine, but either way this buff carries fairly little risk.

Apocalypse
[ Old ] 6/6 - When you discard this, put it back with +4 Power.
[Change ] 6/6 -> 6/8
We took some Power away from Apocalypse a while ago, when Discard had reached perhaps the peak of its all-time strength. Since then the metagame has continued to evolve, and Discard has slid backwards. This won't fully reverse the trend, but it's a solid step and we'd like to monitor the results before making additional updates.

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Big oofs to my main deck
If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person?
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Fucking riparroni to Doc Oc. Basically makes him a Zola-combo killer and nothing else.
Phantom Dust.
"I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado
Leech only hitting 6-costs is so much better
Yeah if Doc is only pulling 1 card he should remove abilities from the card too or something.
skull
Bye loki
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Honestly I'm not convinced Loki is dead. One of the drawbacks I ran into playing Loki is that often my hand was pretty good and I didn't want to Loki it.

Sure you get your Loki cards slower so you have less options but keeping your previous hand is pretty good too.

It's slightly worse but I don't think it's that severe.
skull
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