Honkai Star Rail Topic 10: Well I'll be Forked

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swordz9
05/19/2024
10:13 AM
#101
Even with Topaz finding some of these Penacony chests is a pain in the ass
pyresword
05/19/2024
12:11 PM
#102
I managed to clear MoC 12 using no sustain Harmony MC/Ruan Mei/Welt/Dr Ratio, but it was still a cycle slower than just using Aventurine instead of Welt. I think the run could have been faster since I got my Ratio dominated by Kafka during the fight, but still. Not sure how to feel here.
I didn't do guru this year but azuarc can be in my sig anyways.
swordz9
05/19/2024
12:14 PM
#103
Harmony Stell will be my 3rd Harmony character period (almost forgot about Ratio again lol)
pyresword
05/19/2024
12:19 PM
#104
I've gotten every Harmony character until Robin, and it's a bit sad because I've got these really strong units like Tingyun who are still just stuck on the sidelines almost permanently.
I didn't do guru this year but azuarc can be in my sig anyways.
MrSmartGuy
05/19/2024
02:35 PM
#105
Aventurine has exceeded all my expectations for him. He's absolutely busted.
Play Outer Wilds
KanzarisKelshen
05/19/2024
03:09 PM
#106
tcaz2 posted...
I have one Robin on my friends list who is an absolute monster that adds like 100k damage to every attack and just melts everything.

I should check what they have her at.

That's e6 100%. Robin does like 20k until e6 and then she goes 'fuck all y'all DPSes, I am the DPS' and becomes a carry.
Shine on, you crazy diamond.
BK_Sheikah00
05/20/2024
11:58 AM
#107
Alright I tried superbreak team. HMC/Ruan Mei/Gallagher and Pela cus ice weak. Everyone becomes a dps. It is very comfortable and easy to build.

But I do feel it's kinda slow. Can't really frontload damage, need a few turns to get the breaks first. The good thing is you don't need to spend so much time in relic caverns to get insane damage.

Basically it really is hyperbloom
Congrats to azuarc for winning GOTD2
http://i.imgur.com/v58wdlU.png
pyresword
05/20/2024
12:26 PM
#108
My experience has been that it's better with one conventional DPS than trying to go all in on Break. Of course probably ideal is using a DPS like Xueyi, but I haven't tested too much specifically with her yet because mine isn't great.

It's also true that if you're starting from nothing it's probably quicker to just get the Break comp up and running than trying to worry about a good Crit DPS build.
I didn't do guru this year but azuarc can be in my sig anyways.
BK_Sheikah00
05/20/2024
07:20 PM
#109
Heh. Just did the new weekly boss with Break Asta.
Congrats to azuarc for winning GOTD2
http://i.imgur.com/v58wdlU.png
swordz9
05/20/2024
08:22 PM
#110
Probably still needs some work, but how does my Lil Gui look now? Shes got max Traces, is E6, Eyes of Prey LC and Glamoth planar (Fire DMG sphere and ATK % Rope)

HP 3322
ATK 2538
SPD 131
Crit Rate 27.3%
Crit DMG 110.9%
Break Effect 35.6%
Effect Hit Rate 100.4%
Fire DMG 61.2%
BK_Sheikah00
05/20/2024
08:28 PM
#111
Need more spd
Congrats to azuarc for winning GOTD2
http://i.imgur.com/v58wdlU.png
swordz9
05/20/2024
08:33 PM
#112
Ive been trying. SPD feels like the rarest stat other than energy regeneration rate
pyresword
05/20/2024
08:44 PM
#113
I don't know if that was acknowledgment or speculation, but in case it's the latter--yes speed on boots is actually rarer than other main stats. (Same with ERR)

People often advise saving the modeling resins for specifically those 2 types of relic, though I haven't really stuck completely to that myself.
I didn't do guru this year but azuarc can be in my sig anyways.
swordz9
05/20/2024
08:51 PM
#114
I meant even as a sub stat on a relic I hardly ever get Speed on anything. She actually has SPD boots on.
KanzarisKelshen
05/20/2024
08:52 PM
#115
swordz9 posted...
Probably still needs some work, but how does my Lil Gui look now? Shes got max Traces, is E6, Eyes of Prey LC and Glamoth planar (Fire DMG sphere and ATK % Rope)

HP 3322
ATK 2538
SPD 131
Crit Rate 27.3%
Crit DMG 110.9%
Break Effect 35.6%
Effect Hit Rate 100.4%
Fire DMG 61.2%

You can afford less EHR overall, particularly if your Guinaifen has her E1 so her skill dishes out Effres Down. For reference, like 70% EHR is enough to hard force the skill against every enemy, and then the basic will have a 95% infliction chance against enemies that have been skilled and have massive EffRes and 100% vs everything else. You want more speed and attack overall, like a lot more. DoTs scale off attack and actions taken so once your EHR is comfy that's where you wanna go. Consider using SPD Hackerspace boots if you can. The dream is something like 143 SPD, 3k ATK, 3k HP and 67% EHR. If you can hit all your benchmarks your Lil Gui is pretty much as good as she needs to be to handle any content.
Shine on, you crazy diamond.
TheManaSword
05/20/2024
08:56 PM
#116
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/01266014.jpg
This is my Gui, so I think your stats are pretty good overall. If you can squeeze three more speed somewhere I think youre set.
http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Gylgamesh501.png
KanzarisKelshen
05/20/2024
08:57 PM
#117
Explanation on why 67-70% EHR for anyone who doesn't know btw: The way hitrates for statuses work is you multiply base chance by (1+EHR%), then multiply by (1-EffRes), and enemies have at most 40% EffRes and (if relevant, not important here) 40% CC resistance which is multiplicative with EffRes. So the benchmarking here would be:

0.8 (base chance of basic attack burn infliction) x 1.7 x 0.7 (EffRes after we reduce it by 10%)

1.36 x 0.7 = 0.952, or a 95% chance of infliction on basic off of more or less the automatic infliction value for skill. Good enough that we don't want to go any higher because the cost is steep and the returns low.
Shine on, you crazy diamond.
UshiromiyaEva
05/20/2024
09:02 PM
#118
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/2e41bcfe.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/HngtYfT/20240504-020718-imageonline-co-merged-jpg.png
https://youtu.be/qj9p6IFSlnk?si=cZ5L4OPM0TjVjwCD
swordz9
05/20/2024
09:24 PM
#119
Ill have to hope my relic farming improves. All the stuff I had Spd on that didnt have completely worthless junk sub stats accompanying it didnt increase Spd a single time leveling up.

I did just randomly pull an early E2 Clara from a free standard ticket though!
UshiromiyaEva
05/20/2024
10:52 PM
#120
Lots of beta changes coming through, but uhhhhhh this change for the new FuA set is actually an enormous fucking problem? The entire reason to farm for it just went up in smoke, nobody wants this. They better change this back.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c4c18601.png
https://i.ibb.co/HngtYfT/20240504-020718-imageonline-co-merged-jpg.png
https://youtu.be/qj9p6IFSlnk?si=cZ5L4OPM0TjVjwCD
TheManaSword
05/21/2024
07:20 AM
#121
Some of the Firefly numbers Ive seen after the changes in beta are concerning. Power creep is inevitable in a game like this, but it feels like its happening too fast.
http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Gylgamesh501.png
swordz9
05/21/2024
07:31 AM
#122
They shouldve taken the Genshin approach where you can use basically anything. Ill continue to use my favorites in this though no matter what. The currency Id need to spend to keep up with the meta is way more than what Id earn back from clearing the content anyways
swordz9
05/21/2024
09:30 AM
#123
Anyways leaks suggest well be heading back to the Luofu fairly soon so maybe one of those characters will interest me. Depends how they look
KanzarisKelshen
05/21/2024
09:36 AM
#124
UshiromiyaEva posted...
Lots of beta changes coming through, but uhhhhhh this change for the new FuA set is actually an enormous fucking problem? The entire reason to farm for it just went up in smoke, nobody wants this. They better change this back.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c4c18601.png

It's likely there for a future char (Feixiao). I doubt they will change it.
Shine on, you crazy diamond.
swordz9
05/21/2024
11:30 AM
#125
Boosted planars tomorrow. Wonder how many characters I still need for those
HeroDelTiempo17
05/21/2024
12:05 PM
#126
UshiromiyaEva posted...
Lots of beta changes coming through, but uhhhhhh this change for the new FuA set is actually an enormous fucking problem? The entire reason to farm for it just went up in smoke, nobody wants this. They better change this back.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c4c18601.png


Is this strictly for Jade? Do her FUAs count as ultimate damage or something?
I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig!
https://www.backloggd.com/u/HDT/
tcaz2
05/21/2024
01:47 PM
#127
I need so many planars right now cant wait for them to all be trash
TheManaSword
05/22/2024
08:11 AM
#128
Is there anyone who ever wants to the Belobog planar set? Considering just trashing all these as I farm for Salsetto.
http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Gylgamesh501.png
swordz9
05/22/2024
08:14 AM
#129
March can use it, but I dunno if its considered her best or not. Otherwise probably other defensive types like Fire MC or Gepard?
pyresword
05/22/2024
09:00 AM
#130
I use it on Fire MC. I think it's also usable on Aventurine, though mine has Salsotto. Probably also Gepard though I don't have him yet somehow
I didn't do guru this year but azuarc can be in my sig anyways.
KanzarisKelshen
05/22/2024
09:05 AM
#131
Aventurine tends to want Sigonia unless you didn't godroll enough Def% to get him to 4k and Belobog helps you get there, IIRC. Fire TB goes for Belobog to pump up the shields or Keel to pump up Effres and hand out buffs, IIRC.
Shine on, you crazy diamond.
UshiromiyaEva
05/22/2024
10:49 AM
#132
My Aventurine is at 4k defense with a completely offensively based build and I couldn't be happier with him.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/ae62941f.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/cf7a89bf.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/HngtYfT/20240504-020718-imageonline-co-merged-jpg.png
https://youtu.be/qj9p6IFSlnk?si=cZ5L4OPM0TjVjwCD
swordz9
05/22/2024
11:03 AM
#133
Wonder how long til designs of the new heroes leak instead of just visual descriptions (none of which mention hair length)
UshiromiyaEva
05/22/2024
11:08 AM
#134
We should have actual promotional material in around 2 weeks, at the very least.
https://i.ibb.co/HngtYfT/20240504-020718-imageonline-co-merged-jpg.png
https://youtu.be/qj9p6IFSlnk?si=cZ5L4OPM0TjVjwCD
swordz9
05/22/2024
01:38 PM
#135
Too long. Where my leakers at. We knew like the entire first year worth of character designs before the game launched! Also my Planars boosts have been terrible. Can we get a No DEF/HP main stat Planar Special? That would be great
UshiromiyaEva
05/22/2024
02:57 PM
#136
First time I've ever really gotten good results from double Planars. Was able to replace both of my old shitty Kafka Planars that were just stuffed with survivability substats.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/61f2643c.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a8818bf9.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/HngtYfT/20240504-020718-imageonline-co-merged-jpg.png
https://youtu.be/qj9p6IFSlnk?si=cZ5L4OPM0TjVjwCD
UshiromiyaEva
05/22/2024
03:14 PM
#137
As for leaks swordz, you'll be happy to know that as of today leakers are fairly confident that the next 4 unrevealed 5* will all be female, and that's excluding 5* March 7th in 2.4, so you've got a solid shot at some short hair.

It's really starting to sound like 5* March 7th is a free unit, but obviously it's all tentative. With how good 5* Imaginary MC is though that's not necessarily a death sentence.
https://i.ibb.co/HngtYfT/20240504-020718-imageonline-co-merged-jpg.png
https://youtu.be/qj9p6IFSlnk?si=cZ5L4OPM0TjVjwCD
swordz9
05/22/2024
03:16 PM
#138
Id be all over a 5* March 7th. Now I just gotta hope for some designs I like even though Im broke from E6S1 Topaz still
pyresword
05/22/2024
03:22 PM
#139
Oh I had no idea we were getting 5-star March soon that's cool.

I mean it was obviously going to happen at some point, but yeah
I didn't do guru this year but azuarc can be in my sig anyways.
tcaz2
05/22/2024
03:27 PM
#140
The devs said recently in I think it was the 2.2 livestream she is going to get a different-but-similar path/element swap mechanic like Trailblazer so it's probably tied to that.
UshiromiyaEva
05/22/2024
03:34 PM
#141
Yeah, technically revealed already just none of the specifics that have been leaked.
https://i.ibb.co/HngtYfT/20240504-020718-imageonline-co-merged-jpg.png
https://youtu.be/qj9p6IFSlnk?si=cZ5L4OPM0TjVjwCD
swordz9
05/22/2024
03:38 PM
#142
As long as they dont change her hair Ill be happy
UshiromiyaEva
05/22/2024
03:45 PM
#143
Well Dan Heng's hair got longer....
https://i.ibb.co/HngtYfT/20240504-020718-imageonline-co-merged-jpg.png
https://youtu.be/qj9p6IFSlnk?si=cZ5L4OPM0TjVjwCD
swordz9
05/22/2024
03:47 PM
#144
Thats my worry. Theyll probably go long hair March and Ill cry :(
tcaz2
05/22/2024
03:53 PM
#145
I'll be happy tho

Long hair > short
swordz9
05/22/2024
03:55 PM
#146
The minute Star Rail gets a short hair brown skin girl Im summoning all I can
tcaz2
05/22/2024
05:40 PM
#147
Woo unlocked items in SU finally
UshiromiyaEva
05/22/2024
09:59 PM
#148
Have only played a few minutes, but it has wall running and way more stamina, so Wuthering Waves is already a better game than Genshin Impact, even though it's literally just Genshin Impact.
https://i.ibb.co/HngtYfT/20240504-020718-imageonline-co-merged-jpg.png
https://youtu.be/qj9p6IFSlnk?si=cZ5L4OPM0TjVjwCD
UshiromiyaEva
05/22/2024
11:50 PM
#149
I don't have any attachment to the story yet and there's way too many proper nouns and the names are hard to remember.

But there's definitely something to this. They even stole some Zenless Zone Zero combat stuff before the game even came out!

Also they gave Alear from Fire Emblem a braid and a gun and made her a free 4*, so.....yeah....

I got 8 characters and almost 2 hours in before I encountered a single named male character. I did pull Persona 5 Sojiro with blue hair, though. He has a gym instead of a cafe.
https://i.ibb.co/HngtYfT/20240504-020718-imageonline-co-merged-jpg.png
https://youtu.be/qj9p6IFSlnk?si=cZ5L4OPM0TjVjwCD
swordz9
05/23/2024
11:41 AM
#150
Planars fucked me pretty hard unfortunately. At least I have 22 gold tickets now. Clearly a huge stash. Might work on making E0 Silver Wolf into a team somehow too despite not being done with any of my characters still
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