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From my experience, the best cross class skills came from samurai (the aoe buff) and idol (best healing in the game). Aquanaut had some male healing options and Pyrodancer's once-per-turn skills were efficient.

You do want at least one of each attack type and element, preferably with the attack types being nonelemental. Hitting a resist, even if you're also taking advantage of like a slash weakness, severely neuters your damage. Also you need grapples!
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The party interactions in this game are too good. Did a minor scene with party chat where you go to a restaurant and order a strawberry parfait with a strawberry shortcake, and everyone complains that you're pairing strawberries with strawberries, so you should order something else... and you can order strawberry pancakes to go with it. Everyone's reactions are perfect.
All the stars in the sky are waiting for you.
Okay I'm in Chapter 5 and just found the Labyrinth. Looks like I don't need to hurry to buy Persona 3 Reload after all.
"A blank page or canvas, his favorite. So many possibilities."
- RIP Stephen Sondheim, 1930-2021
I just wish it had some more depth to it. Even the DLC one is the exact same thing.
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raytan and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum.
its pretty funny how Kiryu looks older in this game, but any old friend of his you encounter appears to have been frozen in time

spoilers for a guy who appears in the game from the previous games, but no actual details of anything that happens:

Makoto Date, ~41
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Makoto Date, roughly 18 years later, pushing 60

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For your Azuarc .
At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza
Well I mean Kiryu's aging is localized almost entirely to his hair.
"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3
The craziest offender's gotta be (minor character spoilers) Etsuko, she met Majima in Yakuza 0, which is set in the late 1980s and she's here in 2023! She must be in her 70s or 80s now.
"A blank page or canvas, his favorite. So many possibilities."
- RIP Stephen Sondheim, 1930-2021
imo there's another yakuza 0 character that's a more egregious offender

yuki still looks like she's in her 20's despite almost being 60
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raytan and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum.
My name is TomNook7 and i approve of Dondoko Island
I'm the original TomNook7 from the old days. The other guy is just TomNook. Know your TomNooks.
They haven't released patch notes, but supposedly they just fixed the stat glitch.
"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3
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Just got to Chapter 4 after like 9 hours

That's Yakuza baby
I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig!
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Got through my first run of the Island. I'm not really super into it, but I could see myself cleaning this stuff up later. I'm going for a more rustic/old-school town theme.
"Evening caress, Always yearning, I must confess, The stars aren't burning"
Copernicus - Candlemass
I just filled the island with all kinda buildings since they give the biggest points.

...and now it's not looking much like resort.
"A blank page or canvas, his favorite. So many possibilities."
- RIP Stephen Sondheim, 1930-2021
unlocked the roguelike dungeon guess I'll be doing this tonight

I'm already beginning to think where this game ranks

It's maybe not the best RPG I've ever played (although it's close), but it might be the best Sega game ever made
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It's really good. I'm splitting my time between the island and main story, while doing a decent amount of substories.

Still no men acting like babies though which I feel is a mainstay. Maybe I missed it
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Raka_Putra posted...
...and now it's not looking much like resort.
Yeah I feel like that's inevitable lol. The good news is that you can rack up permanent popularity and satisfaction over time with interactable buildings, which lets you actually dress up your island the way you want, if you want to go for aesthetics
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SHINE_GET_64 posted...


It's maybe not the best RPG I've ever played (although it's close), but it might be the best Sega game ever made
being the best Sega game isn't much of a feat!

(assuming you don't count Atlus games)
All the stars in the sky are waiting for you.
agesboy posted...
Yeah I feel like that's inevitable lol. The good news is that you can rack up permanent popularity and satisfaction over time with interactable buildings, which lets you actually dress up your island the way you want, if you want to go for aesthetics
Yeah, I think I'll just allocate some areas for the aesthetics, the rest can be an urban sprawl.
"A blank page or canvas, his favorite. So many possibilities."
- RIP Stephen Sondheim, 1930-2021
If you think I'm trying to make the island pretty you're sadly mistaken. Just need those sweet, sweet dondoko bucks
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MacArrowny posted...
being the best Sega game isn't much of a feat!

(assuming you don't count Atlus games)

there we be no such blasphemy in this topic
I'm the original TomNook7 from the old days. The other guy is just TomNook. Know your TomNooks.
The top 5 non-Atlus Sega games are all RGG games imo.
All the stars in the sky are waiting for you.
I mean, outside of early Sonic games, Mania, the Miku Future Tone game with like 300 fucking songs, or Streets of Rage, there isn't THAT much competition right?
"Evening caress, Always yearning, I must confess, The stars aren't burning"
Copernicus - Candlemass
Chapter seven

aww yeah my boys nanba and adachi
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clearly you guys have never played panzer dragoon saga
I'm the original TomNook7 from the old days. The other guy is just TomNook. Know your TomNooks.
I think you'll find that very few people have played Panzer Dragoon Saga!
All the stars in the sky are waiting for you.
I have!
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Lol i love how theres this 10/10 legendary old skool jrpg that hardcore fans of the genre will never be able to experience, and sega has just been sitting on this absolute home run for like 30 years, but just refuses to do anything with it
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5 star Island achieved

but let's continue maxing it out to make as much money as I can off of it
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Chapter 8 looks fun.

Well, if you consider a guy dying from cancer making a bucket list fun. But hey, Seonhee and Saeko are now on the team.
"Evening caress, Always yearning, I must confess, The stars aren't burning"
Copernicus - Candlemass
In a series known for it's tonal whiplash, I think it might have topped it with a freaking notification of all things.

Kiryu Kazama (2016) has been unlocked as a guest for Dondoko Island!
"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3
Unlocked Dondoko Island and immediately sat there for hours getting it to 2 stars, at which point it knocked me on my ass by unlocking even more stuff

There was no reason for them to go this hard on this minigame
I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig!
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This is slowly climbing its way to BG3/Elden Ring tier.

I'm just having a blast. Chapter 9 now and it's very smart in forcing me into fights to obviously level up and catch up to the kiryu party
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Got to the last floor of Hawaii Haunt and the final boss is so brutal. I retried a few times but I'll just get back once I get better equipment on my guys.
"A blank page or canvas, his favorite. So many possibilities."
- RIP Stephen Sondheim, 1930-2021
I like the thought of changing jobs, yet still keeping default outfits. Something about Seonhee being a Night Queen makes all the sense in the world, even more so since she can keep her leather jacket/skirt combo up, rather than drawing weird attention with the dominatrix suit.

Now I'm just determining whether Saeko as a Housekeeper vs. and Idol was the right move. It's covering a lot of water weaknesses, and does more damage, but I don't have great healing options. All I really have is Nanba's Pyrodancer regen. Items don't have great AOE heals...worth considering switching to Idol. I'll probably do it.

Skill inheritance to the rescue again.
"Evening caress, Always yearning, I must confess, The stars aren't burning"
Copernicus - Candlemass
Getting the Idol max healing and party status curing skills should be a top priority. Some of the base male classes have decent healing but it's still inferior to that, and the male version of status curing is single target only.
"One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land."
-Toad, SMB3
Got to 5-star in Dondoko, it was a pleasant surprise that the final star wasn't too hard to achieve if you keep adding stuff to your island, it's just one fight and no need to toil away at a new area, you can get it done the same day as the 4-star review basically.

I think I'll continue with the Sujimon substory tomorrow and take down Joker before continuing with the main story.
"A blank page or canvas, his favorite. So many possibilities."
- RIP Stephen Sondheim, 1930-2021
Getting Popularity was the real struggle in Dondoko.
All the stars in the sky are waiting for you.
Satisfaction was always lower for me, but I did a lot of collectin'. Things always spawn in the same place and the sujimon place that unlocks at 2* has TONS of stuff. Also, spearfishing upgrades are incredibly noticeable
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raytan and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum.
Beat the game at 64 hours. Amazing stuff. Definitely the best in the series. Funny that Sega was saying it's 100 hours to beat the story beforehand - I spent like 11 hours on Dondoko and did all the substories and didn't come close to that. I can see it reaching that number if you wanna do all the minigames or something.
All the stars in the sky are waiting for you.
MacArrowny posted...
Funny that Sega was saying it's 100 hours to beat the story beforehand -
I don't remember them specifically citing 100 hours, did they at some point? 100~ hours feels like a realistic 100% goal

I just remember them spouting dumb BS about getting sick if you played it too much
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raytan and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum.
I am at 40 hours in Chapter 8. Most of that was due to trying to do Substories early and unlocking jobs. Now that I know how broken the Haunt is money wise, a second playthrough would probably go faster
"Evening caress, Always yearning, I must confess, The stars aren't burning"
Copernicus - Candlemass
I spent over a hundred hours but a lot of that was just fucking around with stuff while watching something on my laptop

got all the achievements in that time though
For your Azuarc .
At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza
I think the thing I am spending a lot of extra time on is finding bond events.
"Evening caress, Always yearning, I must confess, The stars aren't burning"
Copernicus - Candlemass
I just got to the baseball part early in chapter 8 after going around town getting new bonding events and leveling up jobs a bit

74 hours
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My review of the game:

They finally did it! They gave Kiryu a worthy send-off! Yakuza 6 was a real failure in this regard, IMO. The plot was bad, and it didn't really feel like a finale to Kiryu's story. 7's Kiryu guest appearance wasn't the best, and while Gaiden had a good ending, I thought it could've used more fanservice. Well, that fanservice has arrived. The things IW does with Kiryu are amazing. Kiryu hanging out with Ichiban is awesome, and gives us something new. Kiryu hanging out with other characters is a great mix of new and old, giving us some catharsis and all that fanservice I craved in the past few Kiryu games. Having a party really allows for a lot of storytelling that wasn't possible in the earlier Yakuza games. Those interactions develop Kiryu than ever before, allowing for good comedy and emotional moments. The new form of substory-style story content is awesome too, and I loved getting every one of them.

Of course, Ichiban is still the game's protagonist, and he gets plenty of awesome content too. I thought he was great in 7, and I love him even more in 8. He's similar to Kiryu in some ways, but his irrepressible optimism and kindness distinguish him. The substories focusing on him are all great, and the story moments that focus on him are excellent too. The first few chapters showcasing what's been going on with him since the last game and introducing his role in this one are tons of fun. The new party members are all good characters, especially in terms of how they're won over by Ichiban. This game, like 7, has Drink Links with your party members where you have conversations with them, culminating in a sequence where you help them accomplish something. They're executed even better here, though. You also have tons of conversations with them around town and eating various meals. The amazing thing about these conversations is how consistently well-written they are. Most of them made me laugh, and some of them made me guffaw so hard my stomach hurt. They feel like real friends, and I love it. This game feels like the successor to the Persona series in that way. It might have the best party interactions of any game.

Chapters 7 and 8 were the highlights of the game to me, since they were the real climax in terms of character interaction. Unfortunately, the main story was not a highlight after this. The schemes of the villains were kinda lame, and I didn't enjoy my interactions with the main ones. Bryce was solid, since he was basically a standard evil guy you have to fight against. Eiji and Ebina as villains are much less interesting. Eiji's motivations are pretty ridiculous, and don't really justify his evil actions. Yamai was actually pretty good at least. Most of the bad stuff is confined to the second half of the game, mercifully, but it's too bad this isn't one of those precious few Yakuza games where the story gets better as it goes (7, Judgment... that's about it lol). Thankfully, the ending is awesome. Not as good as 7's legendary ending, which is one of the best game endings ever, but it's still fantastic and made me happy the game ends on a good note rather than a bad one. It's a pretty long sequence, full of fantastic scenes.

If that was all the game had going for it, it probably would've ended up as one of the best Yakuza games, but not as good as my favorite (Yakuza 7). That's far from all there is to talk about with it, though. The combat is dramatically improved over 7. The improvements are all minor, but they come together to make something really good. Positioning in battle was important in 7, but you have way more control over it here, since you have the ability to move before acting and set things up way more efficiently. Combat is extremely fast for the most part (the exception being when characters occasionally get stuck on terrain), so even in areas with high encounter rate, the battles go by quickly. Enemies feel easier to dodge here in general. Switching between jobs feels less punitive, since you don't lose tons of stat gains when doing so, and being able to keep some abilities from other jobs feels good. There's no difficulty spike at the 2/3 mark. Crafting new weapons and such feels good too. Everything to do with the combat has just gotten a tier better.

For minigames, I wouldn't necessarily say they're the best in the series, but this game's out there. The Animal Crossing knockoff, Dondoko Island, is great. I played it for like 11 hours over a weekend, and had a blast the whole time. It never felt like it got old until I completed the story for it. Sujimon from 7 are back, but this time you can fight with them, Pokemon-style. There's not a ton of depth to it, but going through the minigame and its accompanying substories was fun. Those are the two major ones. Most of the rest are returners, or new spins on old standbys. There is a food delivery minigame that's kinda Crazy Taxi-esque, but it wasn't my favorite so I only played it a couple times (I enjoyed 5's taxi minigame more back in the day). But the great thing about having so many minigames is that you can only play a few of them and still feel like you got your money's worth.

Lastly, the game's pretty strong in the presentation department too. Everything is well-designed and easy to process, with stylish menus and such. Hawaii is an awesome location, totally different from anything we've seen in the series before, but still having that Yakuza feel to it. The music really stands out - the Yakuza series has always had good music, but I think this is probably its best soundtrack yet. Tons of awesome battle tracks and a few good environmental tunes too. The ending song isn't quite as good as Ichibanka, but not much is. Overall, Infinite Wealth is just the best. I'd call it the best JRPG since Persona 5, stealing that title away from Octopath II after only a single year. I'm definitely excited for Yakuza 9, whenever that comes out. I'm not sure how they'll surpass this one; it'll take them firing on all cylinders. The opening half of IW's story was already strong enough to make it my favorite game in the series, and this game had Kiryu's side to pick up the slack for the weaker bits of Ichiban's story. If they can make a great Ichiban story from start to finish, maybe RGG can top themselves once again.
All the stars in the sky are waiting for you.
Holy hell I am making some waves with the Kiryu group. Hitting level 35-40 allows for taking on the Crowns, and it is really raking in the cash now.
"Evening caress, Always yearning, I must confess, The stars aren't burning"
Copernicus - Candlemass
Best JRPG since persona 5?

yeah sounds about right honestly
I'm the original TomNook7 from the old days. The other guy is just TomNook. Know your TomNooks.
Curious for the folks who are further along than me and saying this is a top tier JRPG - one of my big issues with the previous game was how they failed to translate JRPG gearing to the Yakuza open city structure very well, which resulted in getting godly gear just being a matter of hanging out in the city until you amass enough money to buy/craft all the best stuff, leading to a lot of weird skipping around and wild power spikes in equipment.

I had other complaints about the previous one that made it feel pretty weak as an actual RPG (half-baked job system and combat overall were big ones) but those seem to be pretty well addressed here! Bit worried that the gear issue is still here based on some of the early shops I've seen, but can anyone chime in on if they managed to fix that as well?
Let the voice of love take you higher,
With this gathering power, go beyond even time!
That is 100% something you can still do I've had 6 and 7 star rank equipment since chapter 5 and just auto winning most fights and about 20 levels above what's recommended for the dungeons

But to me that's actually a good thing because it feels like my hard-working all the side content is actually rewarded. It's not quite as easy as it was in 7 though because obtaining Tons of cash doesn't come as quickly

Also it makes morre sense canonically Ichiban and Kiryu shouldn't be struggling with random encounters on the street
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