Whew, finally finished P5 Royal (spoilerish)

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CassandraCain
06/16/2020
12:06 PM
#1
That took a looooooong time. Probably won't be playing another JRPG for quite a while. None of them can compete with Persona 5's pure sense of style anyway.

I do just have a couple complaints though:
  1. Best girl Kasumi takes way too long to officially join, and it leaves too little time for her romance. Although even with that limited time she's still way better than the original cast of girls don't at me
  2. Joker really didn't need to be a silent protagonist. The only time decisions matter are in the confidant convos and he could still be silent in those, but otherwise some fully voiced lines would have been more entertaining than the illusion of choices. He's pretty much a fully formed character as it is, seems weird that he doesn't get to speak up.


Actually wanna shower some praise here as well, bc the addition of Dr Maruki was genius. He's a fascinating character and gave the game some incredible moral complexity. To the point where I don't think I would have had the willpower myself to resist his offer.

So what's in store for me in NG+ cuz I heard you get to fight the twins for real that sounds cool
I don't kill... but I don't lose either.
ninkendo
06/16/2020
12:07 PM
#2
The Monado is very stylish
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CassandraCain
06/16/2020
12:09 PM
#3
how did I know it would be shine first
I don't kill... but I don't lose either.
Leonhart4
06/16/2020
12:15 PM
#4
Yes, you can fight the twins for real in NG+
https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq
https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB
hombad46
06/16/2020
12:16 PM
#5
CassandraCain posted...
So what's in store for me in NG+ cuz I heard you get to fight the twins for real that sounds cool

You could do that in the original. What's new to Royal is fighting Lavenza. You'll also be able to have Jose upgrade your Crystal from the final palace into a ring, since you can't do that outside NG+
"That's Engarde hairflip metal detector tier btw"
-XIII_rocks
CassandraCain
06/16/2020
12:21 PM
#6
Oh cool. So I gotta play alllll the way through this game again to get to those fights I imagine... Which is fine since I can just fast forward through the story.

This time won't take 180+ hours yeesh
I don't kill... but I don't lose either.
Leonhart4
06/16/2020
12:23 PM
#7
You can fight the twins fairly early, at least in the original.
https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq
https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB
hombad46
06/16/2020
12:37 PM
#8
Yeah, pretty sure the twins can be fought any time you go to mementos aside from the first time you go, 12/23, and any time after 12/23.

As for Lavenza you need to secure the route to the final treasure before she'll take you on.
"That's Engarde hairflip metal detector tier btw"
-XIII_rocks
CassandraCain
06/16/2020
12:38 PM
#9
Oh see I thought the point where you fake fight them would become the real fight.

And I forgot to beat the Reaper for that sweet trophy. Chose Merciless for NG+ since I have some powerful pokemonas on my team so let's see how much of a threat he is

hombad46 posted...
As for Lavenza you need to secure the route to the final treasure before she'll take you on.

The final treasure or the final final treasure?
I don't kill... but I don't lose either.
_stingers_
06/16/2020
12:39 PM
#10
I didn't know they added a Lavenza fight. That's pretty neat. I can't see myself replaying the entire game again though lol
Congrats Black Turtle !
_stingers_
06/16/2020
12:39 PM
#11
CassandraCain posted...
Oh see I thought the point where you fake fight them would become the real fight.

And I forgot to beat the Reaper for that sweet trophy. Chose Merciless for NG+ since I have some powerful pokemonas on my team so let's see how much of a threat he is
He didn't seem too hard to me on my Hard playthrough, but Merciless should be a little more tough since the benefit you get from Merciless wouldn't apply to him anyway
Congrats Black Turtle !
CassandraCain
06/16/2020
12:42 PM
#12
What do you get from Merciless, is it not just a tougher mode where everything hits harder?
I don't kill... but I don't lose either.
_stingers_
06/16/2020
12:48 PM
#13
Weaknesses are 2x damage or something like that, but that goes both ways. So it's easier to one shot enemies if you know their weaknesses. Of course, Reaper doesn't have any
Congrats Black Turtle !
hombad46
06/16/2020
12:50 PM
#14
CassandraCain posted...
The final treasure or the final final treasure?

The January one.
"That's Engarde hairflip metal detector tier btw"
-XIII_rocks
greengravy294
06/16/2020
12:51 PM
#15
In futaba palace so I havent been spoiled really yet, but I disagree about joker being a silent protagonist, because he has alot of personality tbqh
https://imgur.com/a/LEqiW
https://imgur.com/iXHxhET
_stingers_
06/16/2020
12:55 PM
#16
greengravy294 posted...
In futaba palace so I havent been spoiled really yet, but I disagree about joker being a silent protagonist, because he has alot of personality tbqh
That is his complaint. He most certainly is a silent protagonist, because he is silent. The issue is that since they gave him so much of a personality anyway, the "charm" of a silent protagonist is gone, and they might as well have just given him lines at that point
Congrats Black Turtle !
Leonhart4
06/16/2020
12:57 PM
#17
I cheated to beat the Reaper in the original. Does that cheat still exist in Royal?
https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq
https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB
CassandraCain
06/16/2020
12:58 PM
#18
_stingers_ posted...
That is his complaint. He most certainly is a silent protagonist, because he is silent. The issue is that since they gave him so much of a personality anyway, the "charm" of a silent protagonist is gone, and they might as well have just given him lines at that point

Yeah this exactly. He even has a cool voice the few times he does speak! Shame he didn't get more of an active role.

Leonhart4 posted...
I cheated to beat the Reaper in the original. Does that cheat still exist in Royal?

Nah they removed it. Gotta fight him legit as far as I'm aware.
I don't kill... but I don't lose either.
Leonhart4
06/16/2020
01:00 PM
#19
The biggest crime of the P5 anime is that they keep him boring and silent instead of giving him a full personality like the P4 anime did.
https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq
https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB
CassandraCain
06/16/2020
01:09 PM
#20
I will play P4 Golden one day when I get a new laptop that can handle Steam
I don't kill... but I don't lose either.
colliding
06/16/2020
01:19 PM
#21
the biggest problem with royal is that the developers failed, yet again, to properly implement Haru so she doesn't feel tacked on

she appears very briefly in like two throwaway scenes. really, they should've completely re-done her social link so that it worked like kasumi's. You can level her up to 5 or 6 and then once she joins you can finish the link.

another issue is that the game is just WAY too easy now on normal while hard has one or two extremely cheap fights that kind of ruin it.

other than that royal is generally much better of an "expanded edition" than golden was. maruki, kasumi, and neo akechi are all pretty good.
UshiromiyaEva
06/16/2020
01:23 PM
#22
The change to Ryuji's instant battle victory skill basically makes the entire game a cakewalk.
ACAB
Mac Arrowny
06/16/2020
01:35 PM
#23
I will be more interested in this once there's a way to play on New Game + without playing through Royal first. Really wish they'd just let you import your P5 save.
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CassandraCain
06/16/2020
02:50 PM
#24
Eh there are enough gameplay improvements to warrant another playthrough I think. I definitely have more fun with Royal's battle system.

Using a level 99 Lucifer in the first palace is more than overkill. Hit one mook for over 11000 damage lmao

When can I get Raoul
I don't kill... but I don't lose either.
Reg
06/16/2020
02:58 PM
#25
CassandraCain posted...
When can I get Raoul
After you buy the DLC lmao

Also, Akechi best navigator y/y?
_stingers_
06/16/2020
03:10 PM
#26
Y

Too bad it was so short lived
Congrats Black Turtle !
colliding
06/16/2020
03:20 PM
#27
Y, by all means

although I did like having Nanako as a navi in persona 4 arena u
CassandraCain
06/16/2020
03:55 PM
#28
Reg posted...
After you buy the DLC lmao

fuckinnnnnn

I thought he was a NG+ exclusive, is that just Satanael? He better not be dlc too
I don't kill... but I don't lose either.
Reg
06/16/2020
03:59 PM
#29
CassandraCain posted...
fuckinnnnnn

I thought he was a NG+ exclusive, is that just Satanael? He better not be dlc too
Satanael is NG+ exclusive and not DLC, same as he was in Vanilla.
CassandraCain
06/16/2020
04:15 PM
#30
Thats what I figured but I never beat vanilla. Only got up to Shido.

So no other new personas to obtain without dlc then? Darn. Maybe one day they'll add worthwhile dlc like extra time with Kasumi and Akechi.
I don't kill... but I don't lose either.
Reg
06/16/2020
04:19 PM
#31
CassandraCain posted...
Thats what I figured but I never beat vanilla. Only got up to Shido.

So no other new personas to obtain without dlc then? Darn. Maybe one day they'll add worthwhile dlc like extra time with Kasumi and Akechi.
Royal added several new personas (everything that appeared in the new palace, for example) and gave all of the vanilla DLC for free.
Fastbreak
06/16/2020
04:25 PM
#32
Maruki gave you the final fantasy tactics advance dilemma of maybe you're the asshole because everyone else is better off even though you know its wrong

I had to accept his offer
*Fastbreak Intensifies*
*ScareChan Intensifies*
CassandraCain
06/16/2020
04:37 PM
#33
Reg posted...
Royal added several new personas (everything that appeared in the new palace, for example) and gave all of the vanilla DLC for free.

Right I was just confirming if Satanael is the only one exclusive to ng+

Fastbreak posted...
I had to accept his offer

I would have if it didn't deprive me of more gameplay. That final fight was glorious.

In real life I'm pretty sure I would accept his offer
I don't kill... but I don't lose either.
Fastbreak
06/16/2020
04:41 PM
#34
Oh I made a separate save to accept his offer, and then used the other save to continue on for a more compete ng+ file
*Fastbreak Intensifies*
*ScareChan Intensifies*
_stingers_
06/16/2020
05:17 PM
#35
For me the main difference between Maruki and FFTA was that in this game, Maruki was the God of the world and had ultimate control over the events that would happen which could very well lead to some dystopian shit real quick potentially, giving someone that much power just doesn't seem right. Whereas in FFTA they all just ended up in a world where everything just happened to be better, and they all had the ability to influence their own futures for the better and they had that taken away from them by some douchebag. That's less cool
Congrats Black Turtle !
MZero
06/16/2020
07:39 PM
#36
CassandraCain posted...
Best girl Kasumi takes way too long to officially join, and it leaves too little time for her romance. Although even with that limited time she's still way better than the original cast of girls don't at me

Damn straight
MZero , to the extreme
I never saw azuarc coming, but he won the Guru!
Fastbreak
06/16/2020
08:00 PM
#37
Kasumi sucked until you opened up her story

Don't at me
*Fastbreak Intensifies*
*ScareChan Intensifies*
colliding
06/16/2020
08:03 PM
#38
oh yeah she sucked completely all the way up to the extra content

I still don't really get her appeal - might be her VA that's turning me off
Reg
06/16/2020
08:06 PM
#39
CassandraCain posted...
Right I was just confirming if Satanael is the only one exclusive to ng+
Oh, sorry, misunderstood.

Yes, Satanael is the only NG+ exclusive still.

Fastbreak posted...
Kasumi sucked until you opened up her story

Don't at me
Sucked may be sightly strong (She was actively mediocre to the point that it was really easy to just sort of forget she was actually there despite how often she was shoved in your face imo), but you're basically correct.
CassandraCain
06/16/2020
08:41 PM
#40
I don't know man I just really like the cute red haired gymnast, she gets me
I don't kill... but I don't lose either.
MZero
06/16/2020
08:50 PM
#41
Fastbreak posted...
Kasumi sucked until you opened up her story

Don't at me

Let me add you to my friends list so i can unfriend you
MZero , to the extreme
I never saw azuarc coming, but he won the Guru!
TheRock1525
06/16/2020
09:36 PM
#42
CassandraCain posted...
I don't know man I just really like the cute red haired gymnast, she gets me
yeah gets you hard m i rite
TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.
Fastbreak
06/17/2020
01:37 AM
#43
MZero posted...
Let me add you to my friends list so i can unfriend you

I may sig this
*Fastbreak Intensifies*
*ScareChan Intensifies*
MZero
06/18/2020
07:24 AM
#44
Fastbreak posted...
I may sig this

Please do I would be honored
MZero , to the extreme
I never saw azuarc coming, but he won the Guru!
LeonhartFour
06/18/2020
10:07 AM
#45
unfortunately they have to accept the request for you to become friends so stating your intentions up front may undermine you
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kevwaffles
06/18/2020
03:34 PM
#46
Reg posted...
Also, Akechi best navigator y/y?
Dude, if they sold DLC to expand that to the whole game I'd buy it in a heartbeat! And no I don't care that that would make no sense whatsoever!
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