El_Dustino posted...
So what I mean specifically is that democrats won't be seen as accountable for the suffering of the shutdown as they try to ensure that the ACA subsidies go through. Republicans are immune to the consequences of their action, so them being blamed unfortunately does not mean much outside of maybe turning a few of their voters against them, but it means the dems are able to continue the shutdown without the bad optics.
The problem is "continuing the shutdown" puts it as no end in sight as Republicans dweren't going to cave. There is a point where things with a shutdown were bad and unsustainable and frankly, we were hitting it. I'm not sure accountability here means much a year before the actual election. Ar eoptics here back? Yes.
I don't think the GOP would willingly cave on the ACA subsidies. But in the face of a united Dem front, I do feel that the GOP's masters would push them to cave eventually because this shutdown going into the Thanksgiving/Holiday season would cost them a lot of money.
The GOP has one master and that's Trump. And he was telling them, repeatedly, not to cave. Indeed, he was pushing them to kill the filibuster for that.
Also, it's not 2012 anymore. The GOP aren't just corporate owned. Ideology is very important to them now. Especially when some of Trump's measures they champion are godawful for the economy and hurt everyone.