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Thanatos_the_Great posted...
Which of course is bullshit: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/apr/10/comment

It still was a terrible move by Arafat to reject it and it's a shame he didn't have 1/8th the courage he demanded of desperate teenagers
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She has been saying this for years. She says this as a visiting "professor" at Columbia a few years ago. And she is heading back to that same campus soon for an event with a bunch of IDF/Likud nerds and people stanning them from North America.

The Clintons are scum.
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LightSnake posted...
It still was a terrible move by Arafat to reject it

No, it was a terrible move by Israel not to offer something acceptable.
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The education she's talking about is how integral Israel is to the military industrial complex and fossil fuels.
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rideshort posted...
I believe she made this comment years ago. Not recently. And she's not wrong to an extent on how educated young kids or adults are to the Middle East in general. The conflict stems back decades and getting their info from social media isn't the best way to be informed of the entire situation.

With that said, she's also being condescending to them. Instead of saying what she said, she can also be the one to educate them too on this matter. I'm sure she knows what the Israeli government is doing is fucked up and the young ones are in the right side of history empathizing with the Palestinians. But like most politicians, she's a Israel shill so it tracks.
The point isnt to be fully informed. The point is providing an alternative take on the scenario. As it only takes one for a person to completely re-evaluate and re-contextualize a story.

Which is why TikTok had the effect that it did despite the governments efforts. Which Im 100% okay with personally. They only go through these kinds of lengths when their in the wrong anyways.

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Thanatos_the_Great posted...
No, it was a terrible move by Israel not to offer something acceptable.

and it was still a terrible idea to walk away from it. It was much better than the status quo and wouldve made things better.

he shouldve taken the deal. Arafat was a coward
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Hillary is really smart on some things (she called Trump's presidency to a fucking 'T') but she has a way of really talking down at times. That is one of the big things she has lacked all along, is personability.
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refmon posted...
Maybe we dodged a bullet with her loss in 2016

shut up. 2016 everyone was pro-Israel and anti-Palestine even leftists.
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Dio posted...
shut up. 2016 everyone was pro-Israel and anti-Palestine even leftists.
I certainly wasnt.

It just didnt come up very often.
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Dio posted...
2016 everyone was pro-Israel and anti-Palestine even leftists.

what lmao not actual leftists
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Is there a reason an "actual leftist" is making a topic about an old statement by Hillary Clinton, btw?
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Even though Hillary is a piece of shit she still would have been a better choice than Trump who is speedrunnig us to World War 3 faster than Hillary ever would.
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Beany posted...
what lmao not actual leftists
What exactly is an "actual leftist"? Serious question.
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nocturnal_traveler posted...
What exactly is an "actual leftist"? Serious question.

The BDS movement started in 2005. Muhammad Ali was protesting for Palestine in the 1980s FFS. Malcolm X visited Gaza in the '60s.

https://mondoweiss.net/2024/03/malcolm-xs-final-written-words-were-about-zionism-here-is-what-he-said/
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Beany posted...
The BDS movement started in 2005. Muhammad Ali was protesting for Palestine in the 1980s FFS. Malcolm X visited Gaza in the '60s.

https://mondoweiss.net/2024/03/malcolm-xs-final-written-words-were-about-zionism-here-is-what-he-said/
Ah, ok. Personally, I've always been against US involvement in the Middle East. Trade is fine, but let them solve their own conflicts. Maybe keep a few spies in there just in case they might try to retaliate.
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LightSnake posted...
Is there a reason an "actual leftist" is making a topic about an old statement by Hillary Clinton, btw?

She said this at an event in New York on October 29th.
"It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the Moon if it were made of ribs?"
Are we really still arguing about Hillary Clinton?
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Beany posted...
She said this at an event in New York on October 29th.

So current. So relevant.
Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen
LightSnake posted...
So current. So relevant.

What the hell are you talking about? Barely a week ago isn't current?
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LightSnake posted...
So current. So relevant.
I'd agree if this was more 2016 stuff, but that's, like, 12 days.

There have been recent events that would change the setting if it were about that (SNAP or ACA), but I don't think things have changed quite as dramatically in the ME area.
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Beany posted...
What the hell are you talking about? Barely a week ago isn't current?

No, I don't think a statement from Hillary Clinton almost two weeks ago is very relevant, tbqh.
Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen
I would challenge you all to actually listen to what she says. Its 90 seconds long.

Not only is it not overly critical of young people, she spends most of the time talking about the older generation of Democrats (including herself) and the social media that is obviously the biggest reason the students she talked about were misinformed.

The only way to spin this as her shitting on kids for being uneducated is if you buy the premise that social media isnt misinforming people.
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divot1338 posted...
I would challenge you all to actually listen to what she says. Its 90 seconds long.

Not only is it not overly critical of young people, she spends most of the time talking about the older generation of Democrats (including herself) and the social media that is obviously the biggest reason the students she talked about were misinformed.

The only way to spin this as her shitting on kids for being uneducated is if you buy the premise that social media isnt misinforming people.

Gasp.

You mean...someone would...

Go on the internet and....tell lies?
Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen
LightSnake posted...
Gasp.

You mean...someone would...

Go on the internet and....tell lies?
Im more concerned with CEs propensity to just click the topic and respond to the title without bothering to listen or read for themselves.
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I don't know how anyone could watch the clip and not agree with the topic title/OP as a summation of it without deliberately trying to misconstrue her meaning.

LightSnake posted...
No, I don't think a statement from Hillary Clinton almost two weeks ago is very relevant, tbqh.

OK. Very bizarre.
"It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the Moon if it were made of ribs?"
Maybe there's a universe where Clinton is on her second non-consecutive presidential term, but it's not this one
Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen
LightSnake posted...
Maybe there's a universe where Clinton is on her second non-consecutive presidential term, but it's not this one

It's not my fault a Zionist said something asinine recently.
"It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the Moon if it were made of ribs?"
Beany posted...
It's not my fault a Zionist said something asinine recently.

It is your fault you decided a nearly two week old comment from a retired individual who holds no public office was worthy of a topic, though. Don't get petulant when you get called out for skewed priorities.
Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen
LightSnake posted...
It is your fault you decided a nearly two week old comment from a retired individual who holds no public office was worthy of a topic, though. Don't get petulant when you get called out for skewed priorities.

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"It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the Moon if it were made of ribs?"
....how does that mean you didn't make a bad topic here, exactly?
Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen
Don't blame me for your hero saying something stupid.
"It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the Moon if it were made of ribs?"
Beany posted...
Don't blame me for your hero saying something stupid.

this is petulance that you didnt check to see the date of the clip or even listen to it. You saw Hillary Clinton and got set off.
Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen
What sets me off is 70,000 Palestinians massacred by a colonial state.
"It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the Moon if it were made of ribs?"
Pretty sure young people didn't like seeing Israel commit genocide for 2+ years.

The biggest problem for Israeli supporters is that people have eyes and ears and can see what Israel has done to Gaza
Yes we're being condescending
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Beany posted...
What sets me off is 70,000 Palestinians massacred by a colonial state.

Using that we a shield because you made a bad topic is gauche
Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen
LightSnake posted...
Using that we a shield because you made a bad topic is gauche
traditionally i think you're supposed to use a dagger gauche
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LightSnake posted...
Using that we a shield because you made a bad topic is gauche

It's a topic about Hillary Clinton holding water for Israel...
"It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the Moon if it were made of ribs?"
Beany posted...
It's a topic about Hillary Clinton holding water for Israel...

Based on outdated comments by someone who holds zero power on the issue as opposed to literally anyone in power like the insane religious fanatic currently appointed as Ambassador there who thinks there's no such thing as a Palestinian.

So yeah, forgive me for not buying that. You saw something on social media, didn't investigate it because it was Hillary Clinton and now it's not going how you expect.
Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen
You're literally the only one in here who is having a problem with the topic.

LightSnake posted...
outdated

Well yeah if you insist on making up your own definitions for words then I guess in your view it is outdated, sure.
"It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the Moon if it were made of ribs?"
Yes, nearly two weeks for someone not currently in power would be just a little past its expiration date.

Repeat: So yeah, forgive me for not buying that. You saw something on social media, didn't investigate it because it was Hillary Clinton and now it's not going how you expect.
Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen
9 days is closer to 1 week than 2 weeks.

You're the one who did no investigating since you thought this was a comment she made in 2024 and started making accusations immediately. Now you're trying to pretend a week ago isn't current in a truly desperate defense of your original comment.

I'll also repeat:

Beany posted...
I don't know how anyone could watch the clip and not agree with the topic title/OP as a summation of it without deliberately trying to misconstrue her meaning.


"It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the Moon if it were made of ribs?"
Okay, dude, next time actually check out your own sources and don't get pissy when you're called out.

Maybe make a topic about the stuff Trump's admin said yesterday instead of seething over outdated comments from Clinton.

I don't know how anyone could watch the clip and not agree with the topic title/OP as a summation of it without deliberately trying to misconstrue her meaning.

As this topic demonstrates, there's a lot you don't know. This isn't a compelling argument.
Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen
Alright, LightSnake. Enjoy your day.
"It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the Moon if it were made of ribs?"
Have a great one and be well
Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen
Imagine if the Democrats actually ran someone likable in 2016
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Imagine if the Democrats actually ran someone likable in 2016

Elizabeth Warren should have run.
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Thanatos_the_Great posted...
Elizabeth Warren should have run.

I remember how she was treated in 2020. "Not That WOman" in full effect
Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Imagine if the Democrats actually ran someone likable in 2016
GOP had the abundance of choice went with Donnie

If some the Dem nominees in 2020 ran in 2016 there really isn't anyone coming ahead of Hillary other than Biden.

Asking Hillary's opinion unless given is pointless. Its akin to asking Mike Pence his views, waste of time.
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