They seriously split the Final Fantasy 7 remake into 3 games?

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I didn't play OG FF7 until August/September of 2023.

And then played Remake afterwards.

I don't have an issue with them splitting it into 3 games, tbh.

I don't blame fans for having issues with some of the story/character changes, but as someone without any nostalgia for the OG game, or series in particular, I found both Remake and Rebirth to be worthy of FF7, though I personally don't care for the Whisper stuff.

The gameplay is perfectly cromulent and feels like a natural evolution of the OG FF7 ATB formula mixed with modern action games.
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s0nicfan posted...
Did you? Did you actually play half of one game 5 years ago and have since watched all the cutscenes and plot details for both the rest of remake AND all of rebirth, a game you've never touched?

yes i did look up the cut scenes

yes i saw the stupid meta time ghost shit

which does not really impact things i had hoped it would i had hoped the 2nd game would radically alter the plot change character fates but it dont

i know rebirth still has the same fate for you know who rather than change that

you love the 7 remakes good for you im happy for you but i have no desire to play more of them the combat again bored the shit out of me and the story was just moving at a snails pace
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AceMos posted...


yeah its clear i cant have looked up the cutscenes read the story synopsis or anything

dont critique media just consume
Stop moving the damn goal post. You go on about the remakes take on the characters being bad, but since you yourself admitted you stopoed playing like midway through the beginning of these new games' story now you are shifting to talking about the battle system. That is another discussion from the one you talked about previously. =/

Now you expecting me to believe you sat down and hate-watched someone dump like 10+ hours finishing both FF7 remake and FF7 rebirth.

As I said before, "its different so it sucks". Let's be real, if you now are shifting to battle system talk then your mind was most likely made up on this one the moment it was announced FF7 remake was trying something different.
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AceMos posted...
"you only played half of a game that was boring you your not allowed to critique it"

No one said you're not allowed to.

But you're speaking incredibly confidently about games you haven't actually played. People are allowed to be skeptical of your takes on the games.
AceMos posted...
a game with combat that sucks

The combat's great.
Cynrascal posted...
Dont bring up Queens Blood. I hated it and eventually quit bothering with it.
Sorry. =(
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As someone who grew up with the classic ATB system of the older games, the combat system in FF7R is probably the best one they've ever made.
...I think I'm done here...
i still recommend Rebirth even if a good portion of the side content is boring as all hell...

like who the fuck wants to chase chickens or hunt for treasure?? cm'on Square Enix, y'all a bunch of squares for real!! smh

at least the card game and Chocobo races were fun to play!
Mad-Dogg posted...
As I said before, "its different so it sucks". Let's be real, if you now are shifting to battle system talk then your mind was most likely made up on this one the moment it was announced FF7 remake was trying something different.

and you are factually wrong

yes i do prefer actual turn based game play over what 7 has

but i gave it a fair shot

and i just found its game play bad

your partners do jack shit unless you manually instruct them which would be fine if the menu AUTOMATICALLY POPPED P when they could act

but no i have to manually bring up their menu

this one little thing ruins the combat for me
3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance*
Murphiroth posted...
No one said you're not allowed to.

But you're speaking incredibly confidently about games you haven't actually played. People are allowed to be skeptical of your takes on the games.

i HAVE played it i can fucking prove i played remake if you want
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AceMos posted...
which does not really impact things i had hoped it would i had hoped the 2nd game would radically alter the plot change character fates but it dont

Zack is alive. There is a whole multiverse story. Tifa got swallowed by a weapon and saw the planet fighting sephiroth off in the life stream. The Cetra and Gi stuff was significantly expanded. The wutai war is expanded. If it's really just about that one death still happening then you're still missing a lot of other significant changes.

You didn't enjoy remake. That's fine. You can dislike the combat or story pacing, but you don't really know what you're talking about with regard to story changes and should probably stop measuring the whole new trilogy based on like 10 hours of gameplay and a bunch of YouTube summaries.
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i had actually forgotten about the zack thing ill admit so ill take the L there but yes i did know about that

3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance*
and btw, i thought Yuffie was obnoxious and annoying as hell even if she was fun to play with. i would literally tell her to stfu everytime she started to yap about finding materia...

funny how Cait Sith turned out to be the least annoying one. lol
AceMos posted...
i HAVE played it i can fucking prove i played remake if you want

You played like a quarter of it.

Again, people are allowed to be skeptical of your opinions because of your lack of actual experience with the games in question.


29 hours into a game is not enough time to judge it i guess https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/02165d11.jpg
3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance*
AceMos posted...
and you are factually wrong

yes i do prefer actual turn based game play over what 7 has

but i gave it a fair shot

and i just found its game play bad

your partners do jack shit unless you manually instruct them which would be fine if the menu AUTOMATICALLY POPPED P when they could act

but no i have to manually bring up their menu

this one little thing ruins the combat for me
The game is made in a way where you have to constantly use your ATB stocks to create combinations for building stagger, damage multipliers, and finally max DPS. Its a system that cannot work if the AI works like it does in action jrpgs like tales of or star ocean.

*You actually do get some support materia in rebirth that has the AI activate their character abilities and use skills on their own, but its still not a replacement for what you the player is supposed to be doing. Its more like a supplement*

You are intended to be constantly swapping between party members yourself and activating their character abilities (like aerith's shield and ATB ward for example). The game also encourages this via the enemies switching their focus to who you are controlling.

Its a system that combined with how materia works (and in rebirth your synergy skills and abilities) has more depth than any mainline final fantasy game had before it.
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s0nicfan posted...
(Spoilers)
God, FF7's writing hasn't once been good in the twenty+ years since the original came out. The Compilation is a fucking blight and I was right to fear its noxious influence would infect the not-remake.

Time is a funny thing, you know? I guess in the big picture of my life, you were only a blip. But oftentimes, those "blips" make the biggest impacts.
Mad-Dogg posted...
The game is made in a way where you have to constantly use your ATB stocks to create combinations for building stagger, damage multipliers, and finally max DPS. Its a system that cannot work if the AI works like it does in action jrpgs like tales of or star ocean.

You are intended to be constantly swapping between party members yourself and activating their character abilities (like aerith's shield and ATB ward for example). The game also encourages this via the enemies switching their focus to who you are controlling.

Its a system that combined with how materia works (and in rebirth your synergy skills and abilities) has more depth than any mainline final fantasy game had before it.

and i dont find that kind of combat fun

if they want to go this action rout id prefer it play like a tales of game where my party members just use thier moves on their own

but again id prefer it if a menu just popped up when they where ready to use a move

3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance*
AceMos posted...
29 hours into a game is not enough time to judge it i guess
I mean I can have 29 hours logged idling in a menu. That says nothing about me actually finishing a game. *or in this discussions' case claim to know about the story and the amount of new character focus in detail past the point of the game I completely stopped playing at.*
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AceMos posted...
29 hours into a game is not enough time to judge it i guess https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/02165d11.jpg

Ace, can you please screenshot the posts saying you can't judge the game?
AceMos posted...
and i dont find that kind of combat fun

if they want to go this action rout id prefer it play like a tales of game where my party members just use thier moves on their own

but again id prefer it if a menu just popped up when they where ready to use a move
That is totally fair imo.
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The remakes gameplay is ehh, but I feel rebirth expanded on it and made it more fun

I played both back to back and it was so much better right away
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Remake definitely had parts that felt like they were dragging due to their linearity and "puzzles". I get that they wanted to expand on the Midgar experience, but they could have gone about it in a better way. Like when you get to the tail end of the game you can more freely move about, I think that should have been in more of the game.

Rebirth was a lot better in that regard. I didn't have any issues with it's pacing, but I know a lot of people did such as with the side content. IIRC, they're working on improving the pacing for part 3.
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AceMos posted...
if they want to go this action rout id prefer it play like a tales of game where my party members just use thier moves on their own
Rebirth added materia that allow your party members to do this
I don't understand how the pacing for the third game won't be a disaster, it took them two games just to tackle about 40% of the plot.
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BlueAnnihilator posted...
Rebirth added materia that allow your party members to do this

thats good to hear thoe needing to waste a materia slot on it sounds annoying
3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance*
AceMos posted...
thats good to hear thoe needing to waste a materia slot on it sounds annoying

you get so many slots its a nonissue tbh
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Shah138 posted...
Remake definitely had parts that felt like they were dragging due to their linearity and "puzzles". I get that they wanted to expand on the Midgar experience, but they could have gone about it in a better way. Like when you get to the tail end of the game you can more freely move about, I think that should have been in more of the game.

Rebirth was a lot better in that regard. I didn't have any issues with it's pacing, but I know a lot of people did such as with the side content. IIRC, they're working on improving the pacing for part 3.
I will say that I dont think that second sewer trip in chapter 14 was needed. Integrating the novel FF7 characters like Leslie, the guardian angel and kyrie is fine, but for that chapter 14 section they could have done something way more interesting than what we got.

Don corneo is a slum lord so why not make some sort of corneo controlled base dungeon the party has to raid compared to sewers round 2. They could have been more creative with all that.
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Shah138 posted...
Rebirth was a lot better in that regard. I didn't have any issues with it's pacing, but I know a lot of people did such as with the side content. IIRC, they're working on improving the pacing for part 3.
I kinda wish the devs would do something other than throw in a secret Hojo lab somewhere where they need gameplay padding.
bro Im scared to think how the final boss will be structured in part 3.

took me forever to beat that fucker in Rebirth! i thought it would never end! lol
ZevLoveDOOM posted...
bro Im scared to think how the final boss will be structured in part 3.

took me forever to beat that fucker in Rebirth! i thought it would never end! lol

that one part where you get one shoted and not even having a revive set up will work was such bullshit lol

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Swapping characters as a mechanic is not fun when I dont like having to work with characters mechanic. I hated playing as Red, Cait, and even Aerith. Tifa and Yuffie were the only characters I actually liked using.
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Cynrascal posted...
Swapping characters as a mechanic is not fun when I dont like having to work with characters mechanic. I hated playing as Red, Cait, and even Aerith. Tifa and Yuffie were the only characters I actually liked using.

related the fact you can only walk around as cloud (at least in 7 remake no idea if this is true in rebirth but i doubt they changed that)
means if you are using some one else as your ac tive party member

the camera jumps around when a battle starts and ends which was just jarring

3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance*
I do wonder what the stakes are actually going to be for the final boss in the third part since the team has already beaten Sephiroth in a million phase boss fight in space twice
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AceMos posted...
and you are factually wrong

yes i do prefer actual turn based game play over what 7 has

but i gave it a fair shot

and i just found its game play bad

your partners do jack shit unless you manually instruct them which would be fine if the menu AUTOMATICALLY POPPED P when they could act

but no i have to manually bring up their menu

this one little thing ruins the combat for me
Lol you dont like engaging with the game mechanics. Go play Raid if you want a game that plays itself.
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Garlands_Soul posted...
I do wonder what the stakes are actually going to be for the final boss in the third part since the team has already beaten Sephiroth in a million phase boss fight in space twice

part 3 final boss should be just one phase to subvert expectations a bit... >_>
Better to have a good game get beefed up to 3 games than have a meh game like FF13 get dragged out to 3 games
Garlands_Soul posted...
I do wonder what the stakes are actually going to be for the final boss in the third part since the team has already beaten Sephiroth in a million phase boss fight in space twice
I mean, if any story has the potential to make you fight like a hundred of the bad guy, this is it.
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Garlands_Soul posted...
I do wonder what the stakes are actually going to be for the final boss in the third part since the team has already beaten Sephiroth in a million phase boss fight in space twice

I'm expecting something like a battle on the event horizon of a multiversal singularity caused by sephiroth collapsing all timelines into one, combining dozens of lifestreams to summon a super meteor.

Either that, or there is a fan theory that the Sephiroth that talked to Cloud on the moon in the first game is one that was never taken over by Jenova's influence and the final battle may actually be that sephiroth teaming with the party to take on some ultimate form of jenova.
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they beat Sephiroth twice and still couldnt get rid of him.

i suppose third time is the charm... lol
ZevLoveDOOM posted...
they beat Sephiroth twice and still couldnt get rid of him.

i suppose third time is the charm... lol

Sephiroth has spent the first two games jumping around to different branching timelines and killing every Aerith he can find. We're not even entirely guaranteed that the guy we keep killing has been the same guy each time.
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oh yeah, forgot about the multiverse part.

its gonna be a clusterfuck for sure! lol
ZevLoveDOOM posted...
oh yeah, forgot about the multiverse part.

its gonna be a clusterfuck for sure! lol

also Aerith dying/not dying and is cloud actually seeing her or is he hallucinating or is is just timelines merging
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Biofighter55 posted...
also Aerith dying/not dying and is cloud actually seeing her or is he hallucinating or is is just timelines merging

At the end of the second game the rift Cloud sees in the sky is one that only appears in doomed timelines, as made evident by the many segments where we play as zack. Given that the real Aerith from the original timeline is the one living in the Lifestream who gave cloud her white materia to bring into his universe, plus the fact that sephiroth still seems to have some sort of sway over Cloud which is why he merged the black Materia into his sword, I would say it seems pretty evident that the timeline we're playing through is tearing itself apart because of all the changes that have been made. So it could be a hallucination, it could be sephiroth inducing a hallucination, or it could be the fabric of reality starting to unwind. Either way, there is a metric ton of stuff that's been set up that is likely going to cause the third game to end in a radically different way from the original.
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OG is the movie. Expertly crafted, perfectly paced and ended in an afternoon.

remake is the TV show reinterpretation with ups and downs, shit pacing, filler episodes and several planned seasons
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Cynrascal posted...
Swapping characters as a mechanic is not fun when I dont like having to work with characters mechanic. I hated playing as Red, Cait, and even Aerith. Tifa and Yuffie were the only characters I actually liked using.
That is also fine if you didn't care for it in the end.

I absolutely loved it myself since learning how to use all of the characters in any given game is fun to me. I like exploring all the options available for the player and trying to make it all work.

It takes something like trying to play as genis or raine in tales of symphonia to get me to give up. (Thankfully playing as makes in tales of games improved by tales of the abyss and got perfected by the time stuff like tales of vesperia and tales of destiny PS2 came out).

Cait sith was fun to learn imo, and I can't wait to see what they'll do for vincent and cid's gimmicks.
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Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...
I don't understand how the pacing for the third game won't be a disaster, it took them two games just to tackle about 40% of the plot.
Disc 2 and 3 are pretty fast paced.

So it seems like a lot but it really won't be.

And consider that they basically reworked Mideel's plot point into Tifa's Weapon sequence.
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
took me forever to beat that fucker in Rebirth! i thought it would never end! lol
So annoying how I had Assess on several characters, but of course one of the fights had the one damn layout where no one had Assess. So my journal is forever incomplete because I did not want to go through that again lol.
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