so can someone explain a sports thing to me? regarding the agony of loss

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ran into this thread:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/eecd4fa4.jpg

i had a sensible chuckle at the absurdity of languishing over this and the dramatic framing of the picture, found it quite funny. but i read the comments and i sat on it - this is a *big* deal to a lot of people. im not like, guilty for laughing or anything. but i can sympathize with pain

but what does this feel like? watching a game on tv hitting you so hard if your favorite team loses?

like does it feel as soul crushing as this picture evokes? or was my initial instinct to laugh at the dramatic framing appropriate. i wouldnt mess with someone over this or anything either
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It has to be pathetic. It isn't like he was physically playing on the team. Team you like lose? Move on.
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your topic reminded me of this interview (about 14 seconds long):

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/88HdIZCLk0M
Don't you agree, Zach?
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i mean, maybe if you were dumb enough to bet a large amount of money on the team...
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Frosted_Midna posted...
It has to be pathetic. It isn't like he was physically playing on the team. Team you like lose? Move on.
they would probably find things that affect you or me pathetic, so i try to extend a little grace. there is no objective "pathetic" here
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anyway, as someone who isn't into sports, I've seen how invested some fans can be when it comes to their favorite team.

like, people throwing stuff when "their" team loses, people's arguments escalating to physical fights, and so on.

I think that's partly why you can hear about some athletes doing terrible things and people giving them a pass because of how valuable they can be in their positions.
Don't you agree, Zach?
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When your team wins it's a cause for celebration. There's literally parades and festivals for it.

When they lose, it's like a bunch of fun shit you were looking forward to suddenly got cancelled.
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monkmith posted...
i mean, maybe if you were dumb enough to bet a large amount of money on the team...
You know, the more I think on it, the more this rings true. I'd say the sports nuts that get into it so much they have a cry when their team loses, likely has money involved.

I got big into ice hockey a few years ago, my team would always make it to the finals and sometimes choke. While we didnt get the endorphin rush from winning the game, I'm also in control of my emotions and will not let myself get upset over people hitting a tiny puck into a net
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I've stopped this feeling by not watching the games anymore. If they win I watch the highlights and if they lose I pretend it didn't happen. I hate The Cowboys so I always watch stuff like this though.

https://youtu.be/lMYP93-T9MU?t=11
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Dungeater posted...
they would probably find things that affect you or me pathetic, so i try to extend a little grace. there is no objective "pathetic" here

Good thing there isn't a lot of things I care for or invest my time into.
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Frosted_Midna posted...
Good thing there isn't a lot of things I care for or invest my time into.
that's... that's great...
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Nah, I get it. It's the consequence of getting emotionally invested. As easy as it is for someone like me who isn't invested to say "it's just a game" and move on, there's really a lot tied up in these things, if you want there to be.

Geography
History
Familiarity

It's easy--and not necessarily bad--to get invested. After all, that's also responsible for some of these people's very happiest moments, too. You're not just getting the pic in the OP. You're getting this too:

https://youtu.be/Jvmmkx1dtmA?si=IReAr0X191DtsOvD

Arguing on CE be all like:
https://youtu.be/JpRKrs67lOs?si=kPGA2RCKVHTdbVrJ
Frosted_Midna posted...
Good thing there isn't a lot of things I care for or invest my time into.

No love lost for anything you post :v
And which of you by worrying can add a single hour to your span of life?
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Has to hurt extra bad for Jays fans since they got absolutely screwed in game 6
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Frosted_Midna posted...
Good thing there isn't a lot of things I care for or invest my time into.

That's not something you should feel a sense of superiority for.

As for the OP, being a fan of a team creates a sense of belonging to a group. You form an emotional attachment and when that group doesn't achieve its goal you feel like you failed as well. I don't feel as intensely about it now, I've become somewhat jaded over the years and I already witnessed my team have one of the greatest runs in sport history so I have to be realistic about how long one team can sustain success, but high stakes losses still put me in a poor mood.
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But right, on topic: I've long since accepted this is one of those "human standard subsystems" that I'm missing. I don't put much stock in the tribe, though I can clearly recognize it as a normal thing that occurs in a majority of people.

I think the closest parallel you or I would have (to the Big Sports Game Loss) is the sort of sense of betrayal upon playing an awful sequel to a beloved game franchise.
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Evening_Dragon posted...
But right, on topic: I've long since accepted this is one of those "human standard subsystems" that I'm missing. I don't put much stock in the tribe, though I can clearly recognize it as a normal thing that occurs in a majority of people.

I think the closest parallel you or I would have (to the Big Sports Game Loss) is the sort of sense of betrayal upon playing an awful sequel to a beloved game franchise.
i think thats where im at too. idk that i have an equivalent myself. ive been tryin to think of an analogue since b4 the thread even. gonna keep at it
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I think the guy in the picture needs to maybe learn to separate fantasy from reality. He didnt do anything.

i think if there is a cultural impact of a sports team losing, like reputations of cities or businesses involved, sure it can hurt. But lets not kid ourselves. Most of these guys arent involved in that.
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There's definitely a nostalgia/family aspect to it for me and I'm sure a lot of people - watching Pacers basketball brings back some cherished memories with my grandma so when they got within one game of finally winning the championship earlier this year only for the star player to go out with a horrible injury a few minutes in...

yeah it puts a malaise over you. I don't even get into sports "like that" and I felt it.
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Dungeater posted...
i think thats where im at too. idk that i have an equivalent myself. ive been tryin to think of an analogue since b4 the thread even. gonna keep at it
have you ever gotten into a heated exchange about something that others might find meaningless?

I remember something like that happening between me and my brother about Metal Gear Solid when we were teens, lol.

it also happened between my brother and cousin about The Wire (but they're also sports fans, so stuff like that is common between them).
Don't you agree, Zach?
https://giphy.com/gifs/4A7l8fUxbmHjOwwn0x
Probably needs a few more things in his life if he's THAT invested in a sports team and get's that depressed if they lose...
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As apparently the first actually sportsball fan in this topic lol...yeah when you're team loses, especially in a championship level game, it is soul crushing in the moment and for a little bit after. But you move on, get your hopes up again so they can be crushed once more.
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Also a sportsball fan.

You do invest a fair bit of time, energy, and money into following your team. It's often tied up with nostalgia and family. It can be a focus for your social life too.

When my team loses, it does piss me off a bit, when they win, it gives me a lift. That can be magnified according to the importance of a match.

Is it all a bit silly under the harsh light of rational, dispassionate analysis? Probably. But I think life would be a lot poorer without such things. Be they sport, or whatever it is that brings you your highs and lows. We are emotional beings, after all.

And as every fan will tell you: there's always next year.
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He probably had money on it. The Jays won in 92 so it's not like that old guy has never experienced a victory. Some people root for teams that will never win anything lol.
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Its why I sometimes wish I didnt grow up in a sports town. Its infectious. I care about winning because I know it will make the people in my life happy. And myself if Im being honest. Its like a big party when they do.
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i dont even understand how people can get THIS upset over loosing when they are playing

little alone just being a fan
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ai123 posted...
Also a sportsball fan.

You do invest a fair bit of time, energy, and money into following your team. It's often tied up with nostalgia and family. It can be a focus for your social life too.

When my team loses, it does piss me off a bit, when they win, it gives me a lift. That can be magnified according to the importance of a match.

Is it all a bit silly under the harsh light of rational, dispassionate analysis? Probably. But I think life would be a lot poorer without such things. Be they sport, or whatever it is that brings you your highs and lows. We are emotional beings, after all.

And as every fan will tell you: there's always next year.

This is very well put. I am a big sports fan, and this sums it up well. I have some great family memories and friendship memories around following our teams.

This thread pops up on this board every once in a while, and I admit to always being baffled by it. It is fine of course, but people get heavily invested in things they dont directly create or impact all the time. The reasons arent generally complicated. Humans like being invested in communities of people who like and follow the same things they do.
An opinion does not turn into a fact simply because the person holding it feels strongly about it.
Rooting for a team is like having a favorite character in a show. You want good things to happen to them, and you get upset when they don't.

People who are as into it as the guy on the picture have likely been following that team for years. Watching all the news. Getting to know all the players.
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