While she's correct, it's also true that even a comatose Biden would be a better option than Trump
No, while I did support Harris, the wreckless thing was all the cringe democrats constantly trying to get Biden out of running. Biden should've been the one to run.
No, while I did support Harris, the wreckless thing was all the cringe democrats constantly trying to get Biden out of running. Biden should've been the one to run.
No, while I did support Harris, the wreckless thing was all the cringe democrats constantly trying to get Biden out of running. Biden should've been the one to run.
It really didn't matter who ran. People had a vibe that the economy was in complete shambles and thought Trump would swoop in and revert the prices of everything back to 2019 levels.Honestly, this.
Democrats not even considering the possibility of an 80+ year old man not being up for the job of POTUS, and having backup candidates goes beyond "recklessness", and is flat-out political malpractice.
Someone needs to audit Harris's campaign. To spend over a billion dollars, only to lose every swing state and the popular vote is mind-boggling. There needs to be accountability for this level of failure.
What was reckless was the Biden administration not doing fucking ANYTHING to hold Trump accountable for January 6th. He should have been thrown in jail immediately for treason and seditious conspiracy and be not allowed to run for office again.
No, while I did support Harris, the wreckless thing was all the cringe democrats constantly trying to get Biden out of running. Biden should've been the one to run.Biden was always losing. I defended him early on, but hindsight makes clear how wrong I was.
I honestly believe even Jesus himself would have lost to trump
I told one of the relgious Trumpers in my office that Jesus would've voted Democrat. He didn't even bother to disagree with me. He just said times are different.Welp
The accountability is with the voters who picked a rapist, pedophile, racist, fascist, and traitor. Stop trying to pass the blame. It's the MAGAs. It's the "she needs to earn my vote" liberals. It's ignorant, terrible people.
The true recklessness was the Democratic party not having any plan in place for a possible Trump victory
Respectfully: There was no plan that could have been put in place that would be effective with MAGA controlling every branch of government.You mean the MAGA supporters and protest voters blew it.
It was up to the voters to put a check, any check, on Trump. We blew it.
Democrats not even considering the possibility of an 80+ year old man not being up for the job of POTUS, and having backup candidates goes beyond "recklessness", and is flat-out political malpractice.
Someone needs to audit Harris's campaign. To spend over a billion dollars, only to lose every swing state and the popular vote is mind-boggling. There needs to be accountability for this level of failure.
You mean the MAGA supporters and protest voters blew it.
You mean the MAGA supporters and protest voters blew it.
The true recklessness was the Democratic party not having any plan in place for a possible Trump victoryTheir plan for a Trump victory is the same as it was for a Harris victory - enrich the donors.
Trump sold them a dream, domination, and others didn't believe how bad he would be. Most people don't pay that much attention; they just go with their priors. They bear responsibility for the consequences.
But you also have to live in reality. You can't rely on people having a sudden epiphany that Trump is a fascist and literally anything would be better when they don't actually believe that. You actually have to run and win elections, you can't simply do it by default. You have to get people to vote FOR you at some point, not just against the other guy. Because there's always the option to stay home.
The next Democratic candidate needs to be someone with a genuine groundswell of support and a vision, a fighter, someone that energizes and is not considered someone to settle on. That's when Democrats win.
We've seen from 2016 and 2024 that "the other guy is just so bad" is not enough and focusing on that at this point is a path to death. We won't get another chance.
You blame protest voters for everything. You seem to think if every protest voter suddenly voted we would win when that's very obviously not the case. The amount of protest voters was negligible. More Democrats just sat out because they were lazy and apathetic and don't actually care that much.Look who's defending protest voters here.
Look who's defending protest voters here.Jfc man, nobody is defending protest voters. They're just saying that protest voters did not make as much of an impact as you seem to think they did.
She was absolutely right, didn't Biden's team have internal polling showing he'd get absolutely destroyed long before that disastrous first debate?
The true recklessness was the Democratic party not having any plan in place for a possible Trump victory
Their plan for a Trump victory is the same as it was for a Harris victory - enrich the donors.
Dont let this devolve into a what about Trump thing. It doesnt matter. Trumps not the reason why it was a mistake to run Biden or Harris.It devolves into that because its not helping to bring it up.
That said, the solution wasn't to anoint her not even half a year before election day, there should have been a real primary, Biden should never have sought reelection.
You blame protest voters for everything. You seem to think if every protest voter suddenly voted we would win when that's very obviously not the case. The amount of protest voters was negligible. More Democrats just sat out because they were lazy and apathetic and don't actually care that much.Not sure about percentages but going purely by numbers Harris got more votes than Biden did in most swing states. I also did the math at one point and found that even if Green party and other left adjacent parties had voted for Harris she still would have lost to the sheer number of Trump voters.
You blame protest voters for everything. You seem to think if every protest voter suddenly voted we would win when that's very obviously not the case. The amount of protest voters was negligible. More Democrats just sat out because they were lazy and apathetic and don't actually care that much.
That said, the solution wasn't to anoint her not even half a year before election day, there should have been a real primary, Biden should never have sought reelection.
That said, the solution wasn't to anoint her not even half a year before election day, there should have been a real primary, Biden should never have sought reelection.Unfortunately there wasn't enough time for a primary. Biden never should have run again.