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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-says-america-party-is-formed-us-2025-07-05/

Hell yeah split that vote
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Agreed. Let the Nazi's vote for the Nazi.
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Hopefully the Nazis who are more loyal to Musk than Trump will split MAGA enough to make it harder for the right to keep power.
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Would have been nice if he did this before Republicans destroyed America.
^ Hey now that's completely unfair!
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The two-party system is the absolute worst thing about American politics and should be fought on all fronts.
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The nazi in the American Party must be silent like the g in lasagna.
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What do people Invision a 3rd party actually doing
Trump is pursuing a chaotic far-right overthrow of existing US government norms and checks and balances, trying to destroy our way of life.
emblem-man posted...
What do people Invision a 3rd party actually doing
you mean actually doing themselves (probably nothing since the system is not set up for them to exist) or do you mean like how will their existence impact other stuff
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kirbymuncher posted...
you mean actually doing themselves (probably nothing since the system is not set up for them to exist) or do you mean like how will their existence impact other stuff
The latter

I don't really get excited about the ideas of 3rd parties. You still need 60 votes in the Senate to do anything unless you remove the filibuster.

So if you're not going to remove the filibuster and you can't get the 60 voted, you'll still need to work with the other parties to get a voting bloc.

Or the 3rd party needs 51 votes to remove the filibuster. A task that's hard for Dems to do already, let alone with a new party that has 0 members of federal legislatures.

Hell, considering the presidents veto power, you'd still need a substantial amount of senators at the end of the day so you can override a potential veto.

I'd just work on getting 51 Dem senators willing to remove the filibuster
Trump is pursuing a chaotic far-right overthrow of existing US government norms and checks and balances, trying to destroy our way of life.
So they're basically going to be the Republican 2 party.
No one in that party will get elected, but depending on where he runs candidates, this could split votes in ways that results in dems winning seats that would otherwise have been close but generally safe red seats.
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emblem-man posted...
What do people Invision a 3rd party actually doing
Splitting the Republican vote.
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chris1001_the_sequel posted...
No one in that party will get elected, but depending on where he runs candidates, this could split votes in ways that results in dems winning seats that would otherwise have been close but generally safe red seats.

Lol no
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emblem-man posted...
What do people Invision a 3rd party actually doing

Siding with Republicans like our current ones already do. Remember when "Libertarian" Rand Paul pretended to be Libertarian.
SecretBase posted...
The two-party system is the absolute worst thing about Amerucan politics and should be fought on all fronts.
As long as we have FPTP, we're stuck with a two-party system.

Tell your reps in state and local government you want ranked choice voting if you actually want a shot at changing things.
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emblem-man posted...
What do people Invision a 3rd party actually doing

It's the same "DO SOMETHING!" style of nonsense. That if we just have a 3rd party serious candidates will suddenly spring up from the ether, win elections, and be much better than democrats and republicans.*

*What do you mean we already have more than 2 parties and they are filled with clown shoe dick wagons? Shut up, that's not a thing. 3rd parties will fix everything!
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Heineken14 posted...
It's the same "DO SOMETHING!" style of nonsense.
Maybe the Neo Know Nothings will do something you don't know /s
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Heineken14 posted...


It's the same "DO SOMETHING!" style of nonsense. That if we just have a 3rd party serious candidates will suddenly spring up from the ether, win elections, and be much better than democrats and republicans.*

*What do you mean we already have more than 2 parties and they are filled with clown shoe dick wagons? Shut up, that's not a thing. 3rd parties will fix everything!

I don't see anything worse about the Green party than the Democratic party, and that is fully accounting for Jill Stein being a Russian shill; your guys shill just as much for Israel.
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Heineken14 posted...
It's the same "DO SOMETHING!" style of nonsense. That if we just have a 3rd party serious candidates will suddenly spring up from the ether, win elections, and be much better than democrats and republicans.*

*What do you mean we already have more than 2 parties and they are filled with clown shoe dick wagons? Shut up, that's not a thing. 3rd parties will fix everything!
I mean you joke but if those parties had enormous funding, say from the richest people in the world. It actually would make a difference.

It would mean the candidates would have run on more than just "I'm a D or an R, so vote for me if you hate the other lot."

Most American voters don't even know the policies of the dude they vote for. Just the party.
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I mean you joke but if those parties had enormous funding, say from the richest people in the world. It actually would make a difference.

It would mean the candidates would have run on more than just "I'm a D or an R, so vote for me if you hate the other lot."

Most American voters don't even know the policies of the dude they vote for. Just the party.

It wouldn't.
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SecretBase posted...
I don't see anything worse about the Green party than the Democratic party, and that is fully accounting for Jill Stein being a Russian shill; your guys shill just as much for Israel.
One's a real party with politicians and policies, and the other is a Russian funded spoiler party that only shows up once ever 4 years just to syphon votes away from democrats.
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CE_gonna_CE posted...
Well I did Nazi that coming

I see what u did there.
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Ok, a 3rd party is able to win 5 Senate seats. Now what?
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Heineken14 posted...
It wouldn't.
In the UK the Labour party dominated the previous election. Despite being a centre-right party and most voters being very right wing.

This happened because because the right wing party (Conservatives) and far right party (Reform) split the vote all over the country. Allowing Labour and Lib Dems to sweep seats. often by tiny margins.

Multiple parties absolutley make a difference if they have backing.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

One's a real party with politicians and policies, and the other is a Russian funded spoiler party that only shows up once ever 4 years just to syphon votes away from democrats.

In the previous election before the last one their nominee Hawkins fully supported Ukraine, the party just shifted back to Stein because Hawkins did even worse in the election than Stein's previous runs. If reasonable people supported these parties they wouldn't have to promote corrupt radicals.
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UnfairRepresent posted...
In the UK the Labour party dominated the previous election. Despite being a centre-right party and most voters being very right wing.

This happened because because the right wing party (Conservatives) and far right party (Reform) split the vote all over the country. Allowing Labour and Lib Dems to sweep seats. often by tiny margins.

Multiple parties absolutley make a difference if they have backing.

Cool story, bro. Our political system isn't set up at all like the UK.
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SecretBase posted...
In the previous election before the last one their nominee Hawkins fully supported Ukraine, the party just shifted back to Stein because Hawkins did even worse in the election than Stein's previous runs. If reasonable people supported these parties they wouldn't have to promote corrupt radicals.
Sounds like you're telling us all we need to know about the viability of the Greens, and you're the one endorsing them.
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Heineken14 posted...
Cool story, bro. Our political system isn't set up at all like the UK.
That's kind of my point

You're going "3rd party won't matter because we have a 2 party system."

"....what if you had a 3rd party in that system?"

"Well we have a 2 party system. It's not set up that way"

That's what Elon is introducing. It could result in elected officials, mayors, senators, congressmen being elected who are otherwise would be a different party.

That's huge. If even 6 senators went Democrat or 6 America Party senators got elected who opposed Republican bills, that would change the country.

Look how much nonsense is happening because a Muslim dude might become mayor of New York.
^ Hey now that's completely unfair!
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How is a foreigner allowed to do this though
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UnfairRepresent posted...
That's what Elon is introducing.

He's literally not. He's just making a new party. This is no different than that goofy shit Andrew Yang was trying to do. It doesn't solve the problem.
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_____Cait posted...
How is a foreigner allowed to do this though

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He's a citizen.

Trump is pursuing a chaotic far-right overthrow of existing US government norms and checks and balances, trying to destroy our way of life.
Wait, America can have more than 3 parties? I thought it was red or blue or get fucked?
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This could also take votes from Democratic party, namely in the center.
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McmadnessV3 posted...
Wait, America can have more than 3 parties? I thought it was red or blue or get fucked?
What's weird regarding that is our very flag has 3 separate colors on it.
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McmadnessV3 posted...
Wait, America can have more than 3 parties? I thought it was red or blue or get fucked?
We have lots of parties in the US.

Just everyone wants to get their third party candidate elected to President without realizing the electoral college is set up to preclude that from realistically happening.

And for some reason third parties never really gain traction at the lower levels of government either.
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Ah yes, if there's one person I trust it's Elon.

Surely the best people will be included.

Hey, maybe we'll get Senator Big Balls!
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Smiffwilm posted...
What's weird regarding that is our very flag has 3 separate colors on it.
yeah, it's also white or get fucked
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emblem-man posted...
Ok, a 3rd party is able to win 5 Senate seats. Now what?

They vote with Republicans.
UnfairRepresent posted...
That's kind of my point

You're going "3rd party won't matter because we have a 2 party system."

"....what if you had a 3rd party in that system?"

"Well we have a 2 party system. It's not set up that way"

That's what Elon is introducing. It could result in elected officials, mayors, senators, congressmen being elected who are otherwise would be a different party.

That's huge. If even 6 senators went Democrat or 6 America Party senators got elected who opposed Republican bills, that would change the country.

Look how much nonsense is happening because a Muslim dude might become mayor of New York.
People's voting behavior tends toward voting for one of the two major parties because in our current system that is the optimal strategy for one to elect someone that most closely aligns with their preferences. It's not because they just really want a two-party system or love either of the two major parties.
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I'd make fun of his lame name for it, but this is the same dude who unironically named his shit Doge and X so feels kind of too easy.
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McmadnessV3 posted...
Wait, America can have more than 3 parties? I thought it was red or blue or get fucked?

Both are true.

We have more than two parties, but third parties are effectively dead on arrival. The green party, as stated earlier, basically doesn't exist for 3 years. Then during election season, Russian Asset Jill Stein comes along and pretends she's a serious candidate.

As for the libertarian party?

https://youtu.be/DeiK0fdPv8Y

I highly recommend you don't watch past 3:40 if you value your sight. Just listen to the rest. Not that you'll have to watch that far to get why that party will never be taken seriously.
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emblem-man posted...
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He's a citizen.
Not for long at this rate.
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It's not going to happen. People are being too loud about the consequences.

He now cannot go forward with it.
Heineken14 posted...
It's the same "DO SOMETHING!" style of nonsense. That if we just have a 3rd party serious candidates will suddenly spring up from the ether, win elections, and be much better than democrats and republicans.*

*What do you mean we already have more than 2 parties and they are filled with clown shoe dick wagons? Shut up, that's not a thing. 3rd parties will fix everything!
This. And no shocker to the known usuals celebrating the idea.
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