Kojima changed DS2 cause too many people liked it, want it to be polarizing

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Current Events » Kojima changed DS2 cause too many people liked it, want it to be polarizing
AceMos posted...
some one criticizes miyamoto a person who has done far more for video games and no one bats an eye

you critique kojima and his fans come out of the wood work angry that you dare utter a single bad thing about kojimas games

Are you saying bad things about Kojima games!?!?!?!?!?
Dude needs a mental health evaluation
Turbam posted...
Only half of us will like it
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SketchDog posted...
Dude needs a mental health evaluation

Woah there
Druckmann doesn't even deserve to spit shine Kojima's shoes. Shouldn't even be in the same convo.
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
Motherfucker, you ran Konami dry while developing MGSV and delivered an unfinished product, then ran straight to Sony when Konami told you they didn't have infinite resources. The fuck are you going to do with a team of 30 people?
umm... eh... bleh! X33
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AceMos posted...
some one criticizes miyamoto a person who has done far more for video games and no one bats an eye

you critique kojima and his fans come out of the wood work angry that you dare utter a single bad thing about kojimas games

The whole come out of the wood work memery is overplayed just as the idea of hating Kojima is

Considering how beloved MGS1/2/3 are, the people coming out of the woodwork these days are people who say things like hes a talentless hack.. people who were some odd silent majority just getting overconfident with the fact that Kojima has tried to branch out into other things that wasnt the norm of the MGS series

Like, I am a fanboy.. but thats^ not even a fanboy kind of argument

Thats just the truth of it lol how could I possibly ignore that kind of glaring truth into the matter?

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Kain_Highwind posted...
the difference is that neil has the impression that he thinks games are below him and that he really just wants to make movies and prestige tv
what do you even base this on?
Don't you agree, Zach?
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Please, I don't want to see that kind of shit again.
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Changing the script because too many people like the game? I see what you did you sick genius. That level of artistic defiance! Kojima is the Leonardo da Vinci, Michelangelo of our generation. DS2 isnt just a sequel, its a philosophical experiment disguised as a video game. Kojima doesnt follow trends. He obliterates them and builds strange, beautiful monuments. In a world of safe design and algorithm driven content, Kojima stands alone.
Kojima is a pretentious maniac and I love him for it.

So many of his ideas are so fucking ridiculous, but they're always executed with absolute sincerity. Even when his games are bad they have a certain charm to them. >_>
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Wolverine posted...
Changing the script because too many people like the game? I see what you did you sick genius. That level of artistic defiance! Kojima is the Leonardo da Vinci, Michelangelo of our generation. DS2 isnt just a sequel, its a philosophical experiment disguised as a video game. Kojima doesnt follow trends. He obliterates them and builds strange, beautiful monuments. In a world of safe design and algorithm driven content, Kojima stands alone.
this is truly what it means to be a strand type game
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Turbam posted...
Dude is a fucking hack.
He desperately needs someone to tell him when he's being a dumb fuck.
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"The playtesters are saying the gameplay is good. I should change some things around so it's not as enjoyable."

Half the people in this thread: "This man's a fucking genius!"
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Legit thought DS2 was supposed to be Dark Souls 2. I was like 'wait he did the second Dark Souls game? No wonder why I hear it's polarizing.'
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Ds 2 looks way better than ds 1 which i liked alot. So idk why people are bitching.
AceMos posted...
some one criticizes miyamoto a person who has done far more for video games and no one bats an eye

you critique kojima and his fans come out of the wood work angry that you dare utter a single bad thing about kojimas games

Miyamoto's ego is off the charts, and yes he's a GOAT game designer who's earned a high level of pride, but when he makes mistakes the effects are devastating since there's nobody who can put him in check and minimize the damage. A gamer complaining about Miyamoto is just doing what nobody in the industry has the balls to.

Kojima, for as edgy and pretentious as he may come off, is at least humble enough to self-deprecate and take input. He criticizes himself enough.
Sorry.
Not sorry.
Irrelevant posted...
Legit thought DS2 was supposed to be Dark Souls 2. I was like 'wait he did the second Dark Souls game? No wonder why I hear it's polarizing.'
they could lie and report that he directed it, and all the people who hate it would suddenly come to realize it's actually an underrated masterpiece that took risks and people just didn't understand
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lol this sounds like some Rian Johnson type shit.
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Don't want your work to go mainstream? Ignoring that it already did then why the fuck are you using popular actors?
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McmadnessV3 posted...
Don't want your work to go mainstream? Ignoring that it already did then why the fuck are you using popular actors?
Because at this point, Kojima is bordering on actual insanity.
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Hideo Kojima invented the fucking camera. I think he's entitled to be a bit pretentious.
Trelve posted...
Hideo Kojima invented the fucking camera. I think he's entitled to be a bit pretentious.
A camera that fucks you, how ingenious!
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He's obviously not going for a game which everyone just 'likes'. He wants 'love it or hate it'.

It's an almost impossible thing to chase, but he's in a position to do what he wants me, creatively, and we approve of creators doing what they wish, even if we don't like the results. Because the principle is freedom, not gatekeeping, right?
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WingsOfGood posted...
you guys better apologize when the game comes out and you know you play it and enjoy it and say Kojima is a visionary

well now im gonna trash the shit out of the game when it comes out if it ends up being good.

just like Kojima, im a rebel of society who doesnt follow the rules! in your face conformists!!
Haven't played it, but my experience with Death Stranding discourse was that it was the definition of a love it or hate it game.
I kinda see where he's coming from and I agree. I tried several times to get into Death Stranding but I just get bored. I know its a great game based on discussion about it but I just can't do it.

Kojima is one of the people out there who's truly trying to push the medium forward. That should be appreciated. Whether you enjoy his style or not.
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
im gonna trash the s*** out of the game when it comes out if it ends up being good.

You better!
Kind of a weird thing to say when you're making something that I assume you want to make money off of...

Doesn't really matter to me though... Didn't play the first game so I wouldn't have played the second either...
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i might go through the Director's Cut of the first game after having played the original back in 2020 before i get into DS2. i want to see how different it is...

but yeah, i was one of the few who kind of enjoyed it, mainly for the plot. i wouldnt call it a masterpiece but it had some good things going.
Lol at people calling Kojima a hack because he doesnt want to just spoon feed his audience.
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Trelve posted...
Hideo Kojima invented the fucking camera. I think he's entitled to be a bit pretentious.

I can't tell if this is making fun of people who overinflate Kojima or if you actually think he invented the camera.
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ssjevot posted...
I can't tell if this is making fun of people who overinflate Kojima or if you actually think he invented the camera.
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Before 1998, there were no cameras.
he's such a fucking visionary
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Trelve posted...
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Before 1998, there were no cameras.

I think he's specifically talking about the camera item in MGS. It let you take pictures and you could find ghosts in some areas. It was pretty cool.
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Eh, it comes across hipster-ish, but I see where he's coming from.
Irrelevant posted...
Legit thought DS2 was supposed to be Dark Souls 2

Same lol
^ Hey now that's completely unfair!
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Irrelevant posted...
Legit thought DS2 was supposed to be Dark Souls 2. I was like 'wait he did the second Dark Souls game? No wonder why I hear it's polarizing.'

UnfairRepresent posted...
Same lol
Understandable. It took me years to figure out PC gamers aren't actually bragging about playing 120 first person shooters at the same time.
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ReturnOfDevsman posted...
Understandable. It took me years to figure out PC gamers aren't actually bragging about playing 120 first person shooters at the same time.
Yes they are!
Wonder how share holders will react to that
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DodogamaRayBrst posted...
Yes they are!
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Patriotwolf posted...
Wonder how share holders will react to that

Kojima Productions is a private company. I'll let you guess at who controls it and how he is reacting to his own announcement.
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ThePhantomMedic posted...
Ds 2 looks way better than ds 1 which i liked alot. So idk why people are bitching.

I dunno people are really being silly in this topic. I like the MGS games well enough but I greatly enjoyed Death Stranding. He makes quality games that are fucking weird and does things to try and push the medium around. If you don't like it fine but to deny him at least trying new things is wild.

DS was truly love it or hate it. I loved it. Seemingly a lot of people here hated it I guess
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