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At least partially. Gen Z got brainwashed so hard that they believe all the Andrew Tate shit.
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I'll never understand the macho mindset.

It's literally all "fuck everyone else, be an asshole"

Which if you follow the mindset just leads to everyone being alone and easy prey to pick off.

Doubly so since they all say "don't be a sheep" when the whole point of being in a sheep herd is safety and strength in numbers. They literally want to be the weakest, worst off they can be
The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt.
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If only we got that cancel culture everyone promised was happening, but instead we just got incel culture.
Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.
It's one aspect of the nihilistic, edgy, self-regarding, for the lols, hate-based, culture that created the right conditions for him.
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I think professional wrestling had a bigger impact.

How?
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wackyteen posted...
I'll never understand the macho mindset.

It's literally all "fuck everyone else, be an asshole"

Which if you follow the mindset just leads to everyone being alone and easy prey to pick off.

Doubly so since they all say "don't be a sheep" when the whole point of being in a sheep herd is safety and strength in numbers. They literally want to be the weakest, worst off they can be
The truth is that a lot of them are extremely weak. And, unfortunately, we have been conditioned to not show any form of weakness.

So when they hear shit like "Men are trash" and don't understand that it's just about the patriarchy and the way society lets men get away with awful shit, and assume that it means "each and every man is trash" they get butthurt and defensive, even if they aren't part of the problem.
Then they find dipshits like Tate and hear him and think "Yeah! I'm not part of the problem at all!"
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The whole macho asshole thing has been a thing forever. I saw it daily from like 2nd grade all the way to present day today. Lotta dudes just be insecure as fuck and thinking they're some badass as means to cope.
Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple
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Quezovercoatl posted...
Real strength doesn't come from muscles and the ability to get what you want. It comes from kindness. A real man is kind.

And what kind of government do we have now? I wish this were the case.
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A part of me almost hopes that trumps tariffs cause game and console prices to increase and that the Anti-porn GQP members get there way and ban porn, and probably heavily tone down fanservice just to see how the gamergate incel anti woke chuds end up reacting
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And what kind of government do we have now? I wish this were the case.
Being a bully isnt strength. It does damage, but it has so many cracks. It's only going to lead to tears for everyone, including themselves. Trump and Musk aren't happy, they don't wake up every morning feeling fulfilled. They are empty voids that try to fill themselves by sharing their pain, and only then does it briefly alleviate, but it never goes away.
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Being a bully isnt strength.
Many people confuse fear or avoidance with respect.

So they think if they're tough and cause people to fear or avoid them then they're earning "due respect"
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Raiden2909 posted...
A part of me almost hopes that trumps tariffs cause game and console prices to increase and that the Anti-porn GQP members get there way and ban porn, and probably heavily tone down fanservice just to see how the gamergate incel anti woke chuds end up reacting

the people leading this movement dont care about video games or anime or comics its just a grift

they will convince their followers its a good thing

some will rebel most will fall in line as thats how cults work
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UFC culture as well, hard to believe because Republicans used to hate MMA and wanted to ban the sport
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Asherlee10 posted...
When was that?
John McCain called it 'human cockfighting', but that seems more like personal distaste than party ideology.
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CE HAS IT ALL WRONG !

Since World War II women have been able to get paid for working. The toxic male culture has always been around America. Being ok with treating Native Americans, indentured slaves, slaves, the poor, criminals as replaceable inferiors is our history. Abraham Lincoln's brother in law got a doctor when his milk cow got sick but let his wife die from a fever.

The only difference now is that women can control their wealth own property and collect the money that they earn.

Some men do not want to lose it and some women want to hang onto it(the toxicity). Historians should count up the genocides in history.
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There was an interesting topic on this board several months back that questioned why an entire generation of young men feel so at odds with modern society that theyve turned towards cretins like Trump. I think this needs to be considered beyond simply labelling and dismissing these young men as incels or other such insults.
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There was an interesting topic on this board several months back that questioned why an entire generation of young men feel so at odds with modern society that theyve turned towards cretins like Trump. I think this needs to be considered beyond simply labelling and dismissing these young men as incels or other such insults.

It's a very complex issue that is way beyond what CE is able to have respectfully and without jumping to every conclusions along the way.

A lot of young men feel/felt left out of, left behind by, or outright persecuted by liberal/leftist groups because how a lot of the groups operated during the Obama-era administration (less to do with Obama, just that time frame).

If I hadn't been on CE/gamefaqs and had subjected myself to the whims of an algorithm, I probably would have found myself falling down those sames rabbit holes, being fed talking points about how much men are hated by the left, with myriad of examples of how/why.

Somebody mentioned purity tests the other day, but the lack of purity tests is why the Right/GOP/MAGA has succeeded like it has. All they care about is whether or not they can get you to vote for them. They don't sit there and question the motives of those who vote for them, hence why you had groups like Latinos for Trump now feeling betrayed. Trump was 'welcoming' to them and that made them feel naturally included.

With Dems, it can instead feel like they must pass a myriad of Micro-tests of things like "can you support LGBTQ+ initiatives/policies" before they'll not be at odds with the party itself.

It's why someone like Newsome is distancing himself from the trans issue, because democratic leadership knows what is causing people to break with the party.

It sucks and is fucked up, but that's the reality of it. People don't like to feel like their every (personal) belief is being called into question by a political party.

Now the right is setting itself up to carpet pull a lot of people/voters so we'll see a natural shift or flip, but that just goes back to why Dem leaders like Newsome are trying to shift away from LGBTQ issues, so people don't feel like they must support something they otherwise might not when voting for the Democratic party.
The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt.
Crazy part is that Gen Z women seem to agree with having their rights stripped. It's not just young white males.
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Asherlee10 posted...
Where are you getting this info? And also the info from the OP?

2024 voting results
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CRON posted...
Reaganomics, conservative talk radio, cable news, post-9/11 paranoia, Obama's election and affordable communications technology put us where we are today

You forgot the "Moral Majority" and Protestant Religion infesting Politics too.

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Asherlee10 posted...
Every exit poll I can find say that most Gen Z women voted for Kamala. Further, the voting base doesn't represent the entirety of Gen Z.

So, where are you getting this particular piece of information and where are you getting the information from the OP?
At a reduced rate; Trump increased his numbers there.

And when you factor in the extent to which Gen Z said fuck it and stayed home you have to consider that as well.

Both Gen z women and Black males as groups had other things to do that day. Because they were noticeably absent.
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This is not news. It hasnt been for months.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/08/young-voters-trump-gen-z

I will post literally the first search result for you and then expect you to take it from there.
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In all seriousness, I do wonder if part of this is a fallout from the Gamergate-type stuff.

Too many people who are extremely detached from reality saw it as a personal attack against them when being told simply not to be a piece of shit.
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In all seriousness, I do wonder if part of this is a fallout from the Gamergate-type stuff.

Too many people who are extremely detached from reality saw it as a personal attack against them when being told simply not to be a piece of shit.

Yeah, the thought that GamerGate led to full on fascism still hurts my head.
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Is this why chuds are so obsessed with the word cuck?
It's not that incels want to feel equal to others by bringing themselves up. They want to see wholesale destruction and boy are they getting it so far.
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Chud and incels are so obsessed with "being normal" and that includes hyper fixation on Being a Man.

So fixated that they will try to destroy others so they can display how man they are.
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its funny how these alpha male bros worship Trump and see him as this pillar of masculinity or whatever when he himself is the complete opposite of that...

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This is why Puritanism is evil.

If there were brothels in every town and city, these incels would not have been nearly as frustrated. So incel culture really wouldn't exist at all.

All because "sex for money" is morally condemned and illegal... in the US.

(FYI: The Puritans left for America because every place in Europe hated them, for they were batshit insane... a cult, if you would.)

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I don't think Incel's lead to Trump (they didn't help stop him that's for sure).

I think the clearest problem is America's fundamental problem with stomping out racism. Americans love to cater and compromise with racist, so rather than call Trump out on his racism Americans either support his racist views or try to work with those who support them.
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Tom_Joad posted...
This is why Puritanism is evil.

If there were brothels in every town and city, these incels would not have been nearly as frustrated. So incel culture really wouldn't exist at all.

All because "sex for money" is morally condemned and illegal... in the US.

(FYI: The Puritans left for America because every place in Europe hated them, for they were batshit insane... a cult, if you would.)
The problem that incels have would not be solved by prostitution. Incels are victims of a patriarchal system and worldview, an increasingly atomized society with economic prospects disintegrating in front of their eyes due to rampant capitalism, and a general lack of meaningful relationships with other people. They've imagined a "just" hierarchy in their heads regarding how women ought to be distributed among men that is being thwarted by women as a collective. If you want incels to stop existing, you're going to have to wipe this worldview and the things that cause men to embrace them off the face of the planet.
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It's a very complex issue that is way beyond what CE is able to have respectfully and without jumping to every conclusions along the way.

A week delayed but its really not simple.

Many white men were starting to see a world were they lost there privilege they did not like it, and have gone berserk ready to burn everything else down to have that privilege back even if everything burns.

Yes, we had more then a few go to far on the other side but the core of it is that many men and boys have decided they would rather reduced the world back to the days of cave men and be total savages rather then give one bit of privilege up " Better to rule in hell then serve in heaven" and all that.

At a reduced rate; Trump increased his numbers there.

And when you factor in the extent to which Gen Z said f*** it and stayed home you have to consider that as well.

Both Gen z women and Black males as groups had other things to do that day. Because they were noticeably absent.

What I still can't grasp is how woman and all the minorities saw how much damage Trump had done and WANTED to do more of, and just embraced it.

I really need someone to explain how that's because of anything other then self loathing or total self absorption because its hard to see it as anything other then being self hating selfish @#$#$'s as a whole.

Like the fact that many woman did not care about the abortion ban,and voted Trump over Harris...it really just comes off as @#$# you GOT MINE I DON"T CARE ABOUT ANYONE BUT ME!!!!

Chud and incels are so obsessed with "being normal" and that includes hyper fixation on Being a Man.

not just normal but being" a winner" even someone as rich as Zuckaberg wanted to show he was " a real man" as he keeps trying to prove he can fight and all that, we have a world that is renouncing everything but power because men think that woman have used a culture that values things besides power to screw them over, so they are doubling down saying that only strong men matter and everything else is just a sham by woman to take from them what they deserve...we really are heading full Mad Max at this point and its god damn horrifying.

I can see it even with kids in the school I work with, a few weeks ago a middle school-er said he wants to have it back to when men could hit woman again so" things can be fair " again and thought Musk was a role model...ugh.

But in the end its far from just Incel culture, its the culture of white supremacy that the Civil War was fought over.
Why flatter incels? They think they influence the world. It is the other way around. Far right entities buy news papers, media, social media or bots to influence them.

In turn you have incels and ppl who vote for Trump.
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