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Honestly, if people had the means to do so they would. Plus you cant just move to a different country and start a new life that is the most difficult part
lifespeedrunner posted...
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Honestly, if people had the means to do so they would. Plus you cant just move to a different country and start a new life that is the most difficult part

Means can be a factor, but I dont think its fair to say that anybody that could, would. Nor should they feel obliged to.

Also, the means required arent necessarily astronomically high to move to another country. When I did it (not from the US, in fairness) it didnt cost me a penny.
Whenever I hear that I always think of this

https://youtu.be/ADgS_vMGgzY?si=5oFkRasZDvUvofKK

Instead it's "why should I leave, you're the one who sucks"
It's not just the money.

It's language, culture, leaving friends and family behind, learning and dealing with the bureaucracy (often at a distance).

If you have any meaningful ties to a country, leaving it is hard. Unless you really know the country you are going to, it's a risk and a step into the unknown. Which is also hard.

It's also interesting that many people have ambitions to move to a country where their lives would be better, yet still support their government stopping others from doing the same thing (by making legal pathways extremely difficult and restrictive).
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Most people can't afford to move to another state or even another town. Moving to another country is out of the question.
Once I retire, I'm definitely out of this country >_> Going to Japan or Portugal
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I know tons of very wealthy people that won't move even though they could. And I know they would absolutely continue supporting an authoritarian system while complaining about it up until complaining isn't allowed anymore. And this is what happens in every single authoritarian country. Some people leave, most don't (unless the economy goes bad or they literally need to flee for their lives).
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NeonPhoenix posted...
Once I retire, I'm definitely out of this country >_> Going to Japan or Portugal

I left for Portugal at the end of 2021 and I haven't been back since.
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Tom_Joad posted...
I left for Portugal at the end of 2021 and I haven't been back since.
Japan it is then
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NeonPhoenix posted...
Japan it is then

LMAO
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CastletonSnob1 posted...
Most people can't afford to move to another state or even another town. Moving to another country is out of the question.

Also, other countries dont want you unless you have valuable skills. However, it could reach the point where Americans can claim political asylum.
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NeonPhoenix posted...
Japan it is then

Enjoy the higher prices for everything, then.

The much more difficult language, too.

And how you'll never blend in.

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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Also, other countries dont want you unless you have valuable skills. However, it could reach the point where Americans can claim political asylum.
If the persecution of LGBT people ramps up, they will have a legitimate claim for refugee status under international law.

https://www.unfe.org/en/know-the-facts/challenges-solutions/refuge-and-asylum
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Let in the refugees, deport the racists.
Why not Canada? At least a bunch of places speak English there
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Tom_Joad posted...
Enjoy the higher prices for everything, then.

The much more difficult language, too.

And how you'll never blend in.
Better than getting stopped by the cops and wondering if Im gonna make it home

Probably save money too by not having to buy bulletproof vests for my kids so they can go to school
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Tom_Joad posted...
Enjoy the higher prices for everything, then.
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Have you tried thinking rationally?
Tom_Joad posted...
Enjoy the higher prices for everything, then.

The much more difficult language, too.

And how you'll never blend in.

Compared to Portugal? Cost of living is way lower in Japan than Portugal or the US. Why would you think otherwise?
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With how many land grabs America seems to be interested in, it'd be kinda pointless to move.
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Also, other countries dont want you unless you have valuable skills.

This is a much more important factor than money, to be honest.
FrozenBananas posted...
Why not Canada? At least a bunch of places speak English there
Not sure how easy it to become a Canadian citizen, does anyone know? There's probably a lot of fees and applications I would guess.
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I agree its not an easy decision to make. But regardless if people are doomers to the point that they generally believe their going to be hunted down, arrested and or killed then they need to be prepared to flee with nothing but the clothes on their back if need be.

Even if thats to another state or country even. Preferably one thats off the radar of the west sphere of influence completely even.
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Ah right wingers are back to this old gem. Wish the hateful ****s would take their own advice and fuck off from America rather than ruining it for the rest of us.
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Most Americans would struggle to move to another state, where there's no legal or cultural barriers to overcome.
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Tom_Joad posted...
Enjoy the higher prices for everything, then.

The much more difficult language, too.

And how you'll never blend in.
I got money and investments from America, I'm good >_>

I'll just watch anime to learn the language. EZ

And I got along fine with everyone while I was there. Locals were friendly and chatty, and I even made a penpal over there that I talk to occasionally. I'll assimilate >_>
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Any country that id like to move to is in danger of being annexed by America. So I'd just be moving to America
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Funny how none of them took their own advice when they believed Obama/Biden was destroying the country.
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Tom_Joad posted...
Enjoy the higher prices for everything, then.
That was always exaggerated, but these days almost everything in Japan is way cheaper than the USA. Especially health care and housing.

The much more difficult language, too.
Any language is going to be very difficult to master. Japanese isn't as much harder than other languages as it seems. You just have to keep at it, steadily.

And how you'll never blend in.
This is true. Japanese people are very polite, but they don't have a very open culture. Compared to most countries it is difficult to get communities to accept you as one of them.

On the plus side, though, you will never have to worry about being called a racial slur or beaten up because you're not Japanese.
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action52 posted...
On the plus side, though, you will never have to worry about being called a racial slur or beaten up because you're not Japanese.
It isn't all roses though. A friend of mine spent some time over there, he's black, and because he worked a night time job he'd frequently get stopped by the police after his shift, usually due to them suspecting that he might be dealing drugs(which is a harsh offense). On the flipside, he was always released after the conversations on site with them, and not a single bullet was fired at him.
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Im planning on the Philippines for retirement. I am actually already retired once but I want to get another job and pay things down before I leave. Just had a kid so I wanted her to get a good education here but honestly I dont think thats an option anymore.
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I heard the Philippines is a cool place to retire to. I know it has some poverty there, but the cost of living is pretty cheap and the dollar can buy a lot there
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Its definitely frustrating when people pull the JuSt MoVe card . Would definitely be nice to be able to do that if I wanted / needed to .

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I already live in a different country and America is threatening to annex it.
NeonPhoenix posted...
I heard the Philippines is a cool place to retire to. I know it has some poverty there, but the cost of living is pretty cheap and the dollar can buy a lot there
Its really impoverished and you do have to watch out where you are going. There are terrorist cells on some of the islands and kidnapping isnt uncommon. But there are thousands of islands and they need that income from foreigners that do stay there so you will be safe as long as you dont go to some of the bad parts. Which you can say that about any country most likely.
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I wish I had money to move.
But I live in the US
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Also, other countries dont want you unless you have valuable skills.

This is the biggest hurdle for most people and why the vast majority of America is stuck here.

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ReturnOfThaJedi posted...
Better than getting stopped by the cops and wondering if Im gonna make it home

Probably save money too by not having to buy bulletproof vests for my kids so they can go to school

???

Portugal is one of the safest country in the world.
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I've been thinking about this for a few years. I have the means to self-fund a move abroad if I have to, but I haven't truly sat down and sent out more than a couple of cursory applications. It's actually being allowed to stay in a country, usually requiring a work visa, that is the sticking point in my case. Gotta find a place that will actually hire an American (who on Earth even wants us right now?).
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ssjevot posted...
Compared to Portugal? Cost of living is way lower in Japan than Portugal or the US. Why would you think otherwise?

No, the price of living is lower in Portugal than in Japan.

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/calculator.jsp?sourceCityId=6019&name_sourceCityId=Braga%2C+Portugal&destCityId=

4144&name_destCityId=Nagoya%2C+Japan&money=2%2C500&displayCurrency=USD

2,500.00$ in Braga, Portugal on average has same local purchasing power as 3,041.25$ in Nagoya, Japan (assuming you pay rent in both cities). This comparison assumes net earnings (after income tax).
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I remember watching some youtuber (I forget who) talk about living in Japan for a few years, and saying while he makes less relatively than he did in America, the cost of living in Japan is also way lower, so he sorta makes out.

idk what the economy of Portugal is like
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I want to move so bad but my wife isn't really keen on the idea (she already had to move on a fiancee visa to come to the US).
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If you dont like America, move somewhere else

If you dont like where you live, dont come to America. Stay and make your country better.


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Tom_Joad posted...
???

Portugal is one of the safest country in the world.
This is America
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ReturnOfThaJedi posted...
This is America

Ah. I thought you were talking about NeonPhoenix's Japan.
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