Speaking of "convincing lies" though. We could at least start with stuff like how the election was rigged by Musk who did it in order to get access to the Treasury and other confidential data to sell to foreign countries. 2 parter of fear of big tech elite corruption and fear of foreign countries and is a way to waste the GOP's time in trying to address it. Yet I believe I saw you claiming that we shouldn't be entertaining such crackpot conspiracy theories about the election being rigged even though clearly it worked out pretty well for Republicans.
It's not about the Democratic party. It's about the people. You yourself said that Americans have never cared about facts and lying isn't a new strategy. The American people love a scapegoat and the idea that someone is stealing something of theirs such as data or jobs. Make Republicans the scapegoat for everything, as they've done to Democrats.
What message should be changed to what? Republicans are solely running on Democrats and their chosen scapegoats like immigrants/LGBT that they've associated with Democrats being cheaters and the fault of any problems the US has. Democrats should do the same thing back. You yourself have said that nobody cares about actual messages and ideals, they just want to hear something they can cling onto so saying that Republican elites are cheaters only trying to benefit themselves is a way to do that.
But now suddenly you say Democrats need to have actual ideals and messages to say even though your whole argument beforehand is claiming that the average person doesn't give a shit about ideals and just want to be fed lies and easy scapegoats?
I never said Democrats need actual ideals. I said they need empty platitudes like Obama used. The goal is to win over moderates. The election lie won't work because it isn't being embraced by media or the party at all. Trump had four years, right-wing media, and his party working people over on the lie, and it still wasn't successful. Most moderates didn't believe it and voted based on immigration and economy vibes. Democrats need a message that makes people want to vote for them. You seem to be completely missing the point because you personally like a given lie even if it is extremely unlikely to work on voters for the reasons I already mentioned.To help sell the lie, we would need friendly media outlets and influencers helping set up the vibes. Another thing to worry about is the far left's insistence that Democrats be both transparent yet convincing.
You said Democrats needed to change their message. Empty platitudes would be the same thing as saying "what we're doing is fine". As I said, Obama had the luxury of Bush's era being extremely unpopular too. Harris had plenty of platitudes and centrist pandering and it didn't work. As I said, why would people vote for Republican lite over the real deal when things were perceived as bad under that current lite administration, the perception caused by Republican attack tactics. You're saying Democrats should have campaigned on "Republicans were right about us. We fucked up, but we promise to do better, please still vote for us"? You really think that helps more than just piling on the attack on Republicans right back?
Honestly, I think you're personally projecting your own moderate leanings when both Biden and Harris already did plenty of that.
I've seen you agree with some antiwoke takes and regularly call out online leftists and radical feminists for their takes (admittedly for stuff I think are too extreme too).
I was referring to topics on stuff such as sexualization, censorship, and localization on various forms of media but that's irrelevant and unrelated to this topic.
Again, this is due to just how much the Republicans have campaigned on attacking Democrats and blaming them for everything the last 4 years. The solution is to do the same thing back, not reaching across the isle for them, which is what Democrats have been doing for the last 4 years and are still trying to do now.
Since when has cooperating with authoritarians been pragmatic? Name a single time where fascists have been overcome by cooperating with them. I of course voted for Harris too and straight blue for congress but kowtowing to Republicans and trying to compromise bipartisanship is pathetic and literally just aids them in accomplishing their goals.
Protests are being planned for Monday. I hope they are bigger than the previous protests.I'm planning on attending one at my local city hall. I urge people to look up "Not My President's Day 2025 Protests" and see if there are any being organized in your area.
I'm planning on attending one at my local city hall. I urge people to look up "Not My President's Day 2025 Protests" and see if there are any being organized in your area.