AMD claim Ryzen 9800X3D shortage is because Intel sucks.

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https://tech4gamers.com/amd-accuse-intel-shortage-of-9800x3d/

That's brilliant tbh (and probably pretty close to the truth as well)
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The Core Ultra 200s seem fine. From the benchmarks I'd rather get a 265k than any AMD CPU
I used a stock tracking app to buy mine. Most often you just have a couple seconds to buy it on Amazon, but there's been a couple days in the past weeks where it was available for hours.
https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY
MagiMarthKoopa posted...
The Core Ultra 200s seem fine. From the benchmarks I'd rather get a 265k than any AMD CPU
If you're doing work-style tasks that like parallel cores than there may be value against AMD's, but the 9800X3D is the uncontested gaming king of any game you can name. The next best gaming CPU is... the 7800X3D. The 9800X3D is provably in a league of its own.
https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY
Doe posted...
If you're doing work-style tasks that like parallel cores than there may be value against AMD's, but the 9800X3D is the uncontested gaming king of any game you can name. The next best gaming CPU is... the 7800X3D. The 9800X3D is probably in a league of its own.
Theres also the advantage that Ryzens dont tend to burn themself out.

Personally I wouldnt bother with X3D at all, a regular Ryzen 7 (maybe even Ryzen 5 for a desktop CPU) delivers more than enough performance for me. Although technically my current CPU isnt a Ryzen 7 (its Ryzen Z1 Extreme, which is basically a rebranded Ryzen 7 7840U).
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Intel did basically release a turd, they've gained like 10% in performance over the last three generations.

MagiMarthKoopa posted...
The Core Ultra 200s seem fine. From the benchmarks I'd rather get a 265k than any AMD CPU
??? The 265k is slower than a 13700k in most games lol. Frankly this reads as a troll comment.
BewmHedshot posted...
??? The 265k is slower than a 13700k in most games lol. Frankly this reads as a troll comment.
By a couple frames when testing at low resolution. Bump the resolution up to something you're actually playing at and it stops mattering, because you're GPU bound nearly all the time these days

The better power efficiency and productivity performance are what matter to me
I've bought two AMD CPUs before. One didn't work out of the box, and one died within a couple weeks. Same happened for a friend's AMD CPU

I get that it's probably just horrendous luck on my part, but I'll never buy an AMD CPU again because of it. Never had a problem with an Intel CPU
Kyle1022 posted...
I've bought two AMD CPUs before. One didn't work out of the box, and one died within a couple weeks. Same happened for a friend's AMD CPU
Was this pre-Ryzen? AMD were indeed pretty shit back then (and even the first generation of Ryzen had its issues), but it's a very different picture nowdays.

(And yeah, it'll probably change again in the future too.)
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MagiMarthKoopa posted...
By a couple frames when testing at low resolution. Bump the resolution up to something you're actually playing at and it stops mattering, because you're GPU bound nearly all the time these days

The better power efficiency and productivity performance are what matter to me
Well you're even more wrong here, Intel is hot garbage at power efficiency in productivity scenarios compared to AMD, around 50% less instructions per watt than the 7800X3D while consuming double the power.

https://gamersnexus.net/cpus/intel-core-ultra-7-265k-cpu-review-benchmarks-vs-285k-245k-7800x3d-7900x-more
The 9800X3D was my first AMD CPU in like 15-20 years. Intel is garbage at the moment, and I have been using them exclusively for over a decade.

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Trumble posted...
Was this pre-Ryzen? AMD were indeed pretty shit back then (and even the first generation of Ryzen had its issues), but it's a very different picture nowdays.

(And yeah, it'll probably change again in the future too.)
I think so? It was around the FX 4100 and FX 8350(?) days. Maybe like a decade ago
Kyle1022 posted...
I think so? It was around the FX 4100 and FX 8350(?) days. Maybe like a decade ago
Yeah, AMD did not exactly have a very good reputation around that time. IIRC multiple FX-series chips regularly show up on "worst CPUs of all time" lists. I would have avoided them where possible at that time too - but right now, Intel are the ones I wouldn't even consider (even if we're going purely on the basis of the quality / reliability of their products - I might consider their GPUs, those are actually showing some promise of being good value, but not their CPUs).
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BewmHedshot posted...
Well you're even more wrong here, Intel is hot garbage at power efficiency in productivity scenarios compared to AMD, around 50% less instructions per watt than the 7800X3D while consuming double the power.
The 7800x3d and 9800x3d are awful for coding. Even the 245k destroys them in compile times

AMD idling at 20w higher makes them terribly inefficient compared to intel.

At least they were aware Intel was making a product.

I thought they gave up on this card bullshit years ago after like only 10 people bought one.
It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg
Tyranthraxus posted...
At least they were aware Intel was making a product.

I thought they gave up on this card bullshit years ago after like only 10 people bought one.
Uh, what?

The article is about CPUs... I think everyone is well aware that Intel make those.

(Though I wouldn't write off Intel GPUs either tbh. The next generation is showing a lot of promise... assuming they don't turn out to have the same level of reliability as the 13th/14th gen i7 and i9 CPUs.)
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