You don't have any actual constructive criticism.they said, without the barest shred of irony
Your "criticsm" is Obama failed to put on a show for you at a funeral that wouldn't magically fix the problems this country faces. Like at all. Literally at all. But purity bs is par for the course, so I get it.
This isnt about official acts of office. If it were, Trump could be sentenced today. The sentencing was delayed because of the Supreme Courts musing on immunity, which the court had to consider as impacting on the case.
If that's how you see his statement, I don't think you actually "get it" at all. No one is arguing that Obama should have caused a scene, the argument is that he's being overly friendly given the circumstances.Reread my post. My post addressed being "overly friendly", <insert whatever words you want to use here> or whatever pointless show one wanted from Obama at a publicized funeral given he was drawn the short straw having to sit next to Trump.
You don't have any actual constructive criticism.You don't have to make light conversation, small talk, or be polite to a rapist, fascist, or grifter. Let alone a person who is all three in one.
Just pearl clutching over a nothing burger. A former first black president of the United States (who constantly has people pearl clutching about him over something such as tan suits and "terror salutes") was drawn the short straw and had to sit next to another former president whos also a turd..... at the televised funeral for another former president.
Your "criticsm" is Obama failed to put on a show for you at a funeral that wouldn't magically fix the problems this country faces. Like at all. Literally at all. But purity bs is par for the course, so I get it.
You don't have any actual constructive criticism.
Just pearl clutching over a nothing burger. A former first black president of the United States (who constantly has people pearl clutching about him over something such as tan suits and "terror salutes") was drawn the short straw and had to sit next to another former president whos also a turd..... at the televised funeral for another former president.
Your "criticsm" is Obama failed to put on a show for you at a funeral that wouldn't magically fix the problems this country faces. Like at all. Literally at all. But purity bs is par for the course, so I get it.
Reread my post. My post addressed being "overly friendly" or whatever pointless show one wanted from Obama at a publicized funeral.
There's literally nothing to gain from it.
I don't see how Republicans treatment of Obama during his term is relevant. How do you not get that Obama saying Trump is a threat to democracy one moment and laughing and joking with him the next looks pretty bad? Given his choice in friends like dubya, a literal war criminal, it doesn't seem to be just a cordial meeting. Joe Biden was welcoming him back to the White House too like nothing bad is going to happen. In another topic I saw a picture of Nancy Pelosi fist bumping Mitch McConnell. How many times has he fucked over both Democrats and the American people not counting the rich?The only thing I see is how a loud fringe of our side bends over backwards to join hands with Republicans to pearl clutching about Democrats.
If Democrats are supposed to be fighting Republicans for the sake of Americans they sure do act pretty friendly with the fascists. It makes it look like they're all just pals and running a big con on everyone and scamming all the non-elites. Maybe that's true. The establishment Democrats can weather whatever storm Republicans cause because they're rich so maybe they just don't actually care. Even if neither are true it's bad optics.
Democrats acting like best buds with some of the worst people in America should be called out. Same for a lot of the other bad things Democrats do. Then we have people like you saying everything is a purity test and that we should never call them out for fear of helping Republicans.
The only thing I see is how a loud fringe of our side bends over backwards to join hands with Republicans to pearl clutching about Democrats.
How is Republican treatment of Obama relevant? Both Republicans AND Democrats join hands to pearl clutch about something Democrats do, which always plays in Republicans favor. As Democrats are always held to a very high standard, while Republicans can practically do whatever they want. It doesn't take much for people like you to push a narrative or insinuation of both sides being "best buddies" or "same thing both sides" or "almost the same."
Which again, a narrative Republicans live and enjoy against Democrats.
Playing nice at a funeral doesn't remotely mean someone is "besties" or "best buds"... but leave it to a loud fringe on our side to find a way through purity to argue as such. And yes, purity bs. To turn what happened at the funeral into a roundabout "both sides are the same, they are best buds" narrative says it all.
Alright, this is going nowhere.^
The point, if I am not mistaken, being made is this: Democrat politicians are eroding voter's faith in them by how they behave. "Playing politics" past a certain point just makes you look like you're treating it all like a game.
Yes there is purity test bullshit that goes on, but being disappointed in Obama for being buddy buddy with Trump isn't one of those things.
Yes there is purity test bullshit that goes on, but being disappointed in Obama for being buddy buddy with Trump isn't one of those things.Part of it is since it's acting as a self fulfilling prophecy.
Alright, this is going nowhere.This. Its incredibly tone deaf to act as if theres nothing amiss when Democrats do easily avoidable things that fly in the face of everything theyve been saying for the past 8 years. For that entire timespan theyve basically messaged on how awful Trump is, what a threat to democracy he is, etc., then you have two former presidents acting all buddy buddy with him when they dont have to.
The point, if I am not mistaken, being made is this: Democrat politicians are eroding voter's faith in them by how they behave. "Playing politics" past a certain point just makes you look like you're treating it all like a game.
Yes there is purity test bullshit that goes on, but being disappointed in Obama for being buddy buddy with Trump isn't one of those things.
Another theory is religion was created by those in power to keep the poor in line. Fear of eternal damnation has dissuaded many people from committing crimes.
I don't think any of you guys truly appreciate how today was essential for Trump to officially become a felon. New York requires this.
A lot of intelligent folks on this board have been asking that question, and my answer is: I have no clue. How do you appeal to an electorate that has been corrupted by a relentless propaganda campaign almost 50 years old, to a degree they are living in a world of alternative facts? I have no idea.
This is why this discussion frustrates me. We are worrying about whether the court should have given Trump probation sooner (admittedly, I am much more frustrated that Trump is not going to be held responsible for election interference, but putting that aside). But the actual problem is that as long as voters keep giving MAGA power, none of our institutions are going to be able to fix it.
And the voters are so brainwashed, lazy, and/or stupid, there is no obvious fix.
There's also the option of burning it all (Or passively letting it burn) to the ground and starting a new game, but that would almost certainly have an unspeakable cost of innocent lives lost that no sane person would want to go through with.
So yeah, no good options are apparent.
I am truly not trying to be oppositional, especially because I share your frustrations (and Antifars too). But I am sick of people blaming everyone BUT the voters. They are the ones empowering this guy. What are our institutions supposed to do when the people keep making it clear they want more of Trump destroying the country?
Here is the simple fact: If Harris was President Elect, Trump would have gotten a penalty today. We could have made that happen, and didnt. The rest of this is just chin music.
Ive been in jail for a misdemeanor for longer than Trump will ever set foot in a jail or prison for double digit felonies
Sorry man. The whole system seems like such a cruel joke.