I wonder what will happen to those men ages 18-26 when Russia takes that landRussia isn't going to get all the land, even in a best case scenario for them.
oh, right, death
this seems like the goodest of faith topics
Would they be put to death or just became Russian by force( not saying that is a good thing)They wouldnt be put to death, theyd be put to work (until) in the east while the land is repopulated with Russians
Just give Russia the land at this point. The carnage isnt worth it.Yes give Russia all of Ukraine
At this point, Ukraine is going to have to give Russia something. I am just being realistic by saying that.Because Putin says so?
Strong "We're going to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian" vibes
Because Putin says so?Because Ukraine is about to lose all US aid, and has suffered terrible losses already, as evidenced by the US trying to push for this now
Silly of you to believe that Russia will be satiated and stop the war if Ukraine gives them 15% of their territory.He doesnt, he is literally pushing Russian propaganda. Like, literally.
He doesnt, he is literally pushing Russian propaganda. Like, literally.What is your solution then? Prolong the war, get more Ukrainians killed, and have them ultimately lose anyway?
However, this could all end if russia just backed the f*** off
What is your solution then? Prolong the war, get more Ukrainians killed, and have them ultimately lose anyway?Your "solution" would not end the war, only pause it for a few years.
Your "solution" would not end the war, only pause it for a few years.What's your alternative? Keep sending Ukrainian men to die in a war they can't win? They've already lost a generation of men to this war.
You know damn well that Putin will not be content with just a small slice of Ukraine.
What's your alternative? Keep sending Ukrainian men to die in a war they can't win? They've already lost a generation of men to this war.There will be no more generations if Russia wins; the population that does not submit to become Putin's new meat wave army against a NATO country will be genocided.
There will be no more generations if Russia wins; the population that does not submit to become Putin's new meat wave army against a NATO country will be genocided.That isn't a realistic prospect under the incoming administration. I would love it if Ukraine could defeat Russia, but it wasn't happening even under Biden. It certainly won't under Trump, where they'll have less aid, and not more.
The best option available is to provide Ukraine with the weapons, or the means to produce the weapons themselves, that can defeat Russia. More bodies manning the front are a waste if they don't the guns and ammo to stop the Russian assaults.
At this point, Ukraine is going to have to give Russia something. I am just being realistic by saying that.Because appeasement is famously effective.
That isn't a realistic prospect under the incoming administration. I would love it if Ukraine could defeat Russia, but it wasn't happening even under Biden. It certainly won't under Trump, where they'll have less aid, and not more.As long as Ukraine wants to keep fighting, let them. It's not our decision to make about when Ukraine gives up.
Also, if Ukraine falls, Poland's next. The killing doesn't stop until Putin is removed from power or Russia's army is rendered unable to fight.
Also, if Ukraine falls, Poland's next.What exactly do you think the point of NATO is?
What exactly do you think the point of NATO is?
The killing doesn't stop until Putin is removed from power or Russia's army is rendered unable to fight.
Did I stutter?You should have, because the suggestion that Putin would attack a NATO member state is asinine.
Russia will never stop until they have all of UkraineTo be more accurate, Russia won't stop until they have all of the former USSR regions.
You should have, because the suggestion that Putin would attack a NATO member state is asinine.Do you really wanna pin your hopes on Putin not being a bloodthirsty maniac with dreams of reviving the USSR?
Do you really wanna pin your hopes on Putin not being a bloodthirsty maniac with dreams of reviving the USSR?I feel pretty comfortable in stating that he's not crazy enough to attack NATO, yes.
Just give Russia the land at this point. The carnage isnt worth it.
US: Try child soldiers
Its easy to suggest surrender when you dont have to live with the consequences.In fairness, the same can be said about sending people who aren't you to the front lines.
Just give Russia the land at this point. The carnage isnt worth it.Are you kidding?
US: Try child soldiersThe age of conscription there is 25
Just give Russia the land at this point. The carnage isnt worth it.Anyone who opposed giving Russia all of Europe just wants nuclear annihilation tbh, right?