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@-GalacticBass-
Perhaps that's where the disconnect is. I voted for Trump because of his policies. I do not believe there is any policy that Trump will put into place to kill trans people. I know there are hateful people on the right that say terrible things but I did not vote for those people. I voted for Trump's policies.

You didn't know he will okay this policy?:
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Our chew toy is likely to go through that list and say shit like "it doesn't explicitly say kill all the trans people".
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984
I don't know much about project 2025. I never heard Trump accept it nor say it was his plan. I thought that was false information.
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@-GalacticBass-
I don't know much about project 2025. I never heard Trump accept it nor say it was his plan. I thought that was false information.

Also you figured a guy who encouraged Jan 6th would be safe to vote for?
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EPR-radar posted...
Our chew toy is likely to go through that list and say shit like "it doesn't explicitly say kill all the trans people".

Like I said the first time, it's the standard right wing religious concern troll bullshit where they dismiss every bad thing the right will do as not a big deal because THEIR version of god makes it ok to make others suffer.
Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.
Dungeater posted...
fuck off

Thats not a retort to what you were getting at as much as it was making you aware that for others, yes, there might be a point in time for me where my existence might pay for your own

and, yeah, Ill be more than happy to pay that price for yours

That being said, I dont buy TCs claim either. Within the own remnants of Christianity lies the idea of service unto others at the heart of it. Were stuck with the lesser of two evils, but Trump obviously carries hate and anguish and continually perpetuates that. Not sure what branch of Christianity gives you the mobility to escape the rules of God himself, but as far as I understand my own, voting for him is tantamount to perpetuating further sin.

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DrizztLink posted...
Perhaps you should shut the fuck up.
I love you this made me laugh and I appreciated it. Concise and comprehensive
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-GalacticBass- posted...
I don't know much about project 2025. I never heard Trump accept it nor say it was his plan. I thought that was false information.
Oh yeah youre definitely trolling
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this is such a bad effort troll topic
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I want to make clear that I do not believe Trump is a godly man. Republicans and Democrats are corrupt. Our government is corrupt. I voted for Trump because I believe he is the lesser of two evils.
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-GalacticBass- posted...
I want you to know that I am 100% being genuine. Perhaps you are used to Trump supporters making a spiteful or hateful topic. This is not the case. We genuinely need to find a way to come together.

I am a woman. If I were to get pregnant due to rape, you want me to die or suffer permanent bodily harm. You claimed that Ukraine and Gaza are "complicated situations" Well by that logic, so is the issue of abortion.

And I have a question: what is your view on oral contraception and the morning-after pill?
What about pregnant women taking highly teratogenic medications for mental health issues? (teratogenic = leads to birth deformations. There are very few pharmaceuticals that are safe to take during pregnancy, esp. for mental health and neurological disorders.) What about needing painkillers because it's the only effective treatment for severe acute or chronic pain? (the fetus becomes addicted and suffers opioid withdrawal when born)

What if the woman has gestational diabetes? (something like a 10% chance of serious complications for the mother during pregnancy or labor)

What if the fetus is deformed and has hydrocephalus, and performing a C-section (vaginal birth is impossible) would lead to permanent reproductive and health consequences due to scar tissue or the possible requirement of a hysterectomy?
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-GalacticBass- posted...
I want to make clear that I do not believe Trump is a godly man. Republicans and Democrats are corrupt. Our government is corrupt. I voted for Trump because I believe he is the lesser of two evils.
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-GalacticBass- posted...
I want to make clear that I do not believe Trump is a godly man. Republicans and Democrats are corrupt. Our government is corrupt. I voted for Trump because I believe he is the lesser of two evils.

He has cheated on every single one of his wives. He is a sexual abuser. He is a racist and a bigot. He has scammed probably millions of dollars at this point from workers, charities, and people in the form of various frauds and schemes over his lifetime. The only commandment he hasn't broken is "thou shall not murder" and that's iffy depending on how you view his deliberate lying about covid, among many other policies he enacted while in office. He literally incited a violent coup against the government to install himself as a dictator when he lost his last election.

You're gonna have to do some REAL fucking good bullshit to concern troll your way out of that nonsense.
Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.
Our troll is just hoping someone loses their cool and gets modded.
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Heineken14 posted...
He has cheated on every single one of his wives. He is a sexual abuser. He is a racist and a bigot. He has scammed probably millions of dollars at this point from workers, charities, and people in the form of various frauds and schemes over his lifetime. The only commandment he hasn't broken is "thou shall not murder" and that's iffy depending on how you view his deliberate lying about covid, among many other policies he enacted while in office. He literally incited a violent coup against the government to install himself as a dictator when he lost his last election.

You're gonna have to do some REAL fucking good bullshit to concern troll your way out of that nonsense.
Yeah but Kamala laughs or something
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DrizztLink posted...
Perhaps you should shut the fuck up.

@-GalacticBass-

Yeah, respond to Heineken first,

He has cheated on every single one of his wives. He is a sexual abuser. He is a racist and a bigot. He has scammed probably millions of dollars at this point from workers, charities, and people in the form of various frauds and schemes over his lifetime. The only commandment he hasn't broken is "thou shall not murder" and that's iffy depending on how you view his deliberate lying about covid, among many other policies he enacted while in office. He literally incited a violent coup against the government to install himself as a dictator when he lost his last election.

You're gonna have to do some REAL fucking good bullshit to concern troll your way out of that nonsense.

What about Harris made you think she would be the worse one? It wouldn't be due to gender roles would it?
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Antiyonder posted...
@-GalacticBass-

Yeah, respond to Heineken first,

What about Harris made you think she would be the worse one? It wouldn't be due to gender roles would it?
The standard excuse for this type is "she's a baby killer, he isn't". It's a tremendously effective way to extinguish all thought.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984
-GalacticBass- posted...
Ah okay I see. The quote was saying that the Jews love him LIKE he's the 2nd coming of Christ. Trump never called himself the 2nd coming of Christ. He tweeted a quote saying that the Jews like him as if he were the 2nd coming of Christ. Again, sensationalistic language but you're grasping at straws if you think that means Trump says he's the 2nd coming of Christ lol.

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Hyena_Of_Ice posted...
I am a woman. If I were to get pregnant due to rape, you want me to die or suffer permanent bodily harm. You claimed that Ukraine and Gaza are "complicated situations" Well by that logic, so is the issue of abortion.

And I have a question: what is your view on oral contraception and the morning-after pill?
What about pregnant women taking highly teratogenic medications for mental health issues? (teratogenic = leads to birth deformations. There are very few pharmaceuticals that are safe to take during pregnancy, esp. for mental health and neurological disorders.) What about needing painkillers because it's the only effective treatment for severe acute or chronic pain? (the fetus becomes addicted and suffers opioid withdrawal when born)

What if the woman has gestational diabetes? (something like a 10% chance of serious complications for the mother during pregnancy or labor)

What if the fetus is deformed and has hydrocephalus, and performing a C-section (vaginal birth is impossible) would lead to permanent reproductive and health consequences due to scar tissue or the possible requirement of a hysterectomy?

I do not want you to die at all. If you had a complication during pregnancy and had to decide whether you or the baby lived then that is something that you will have to decide at that time.

I do not believe oral contraception is healthy for Women and it should be avoided.

I think any medications you are taking during pregnancy should be talked about with your doctor and the risks should be evaluated on whether or not you should still take them.

In the event you're describing where the fetus is deformed and you might be lead with health consequences, that is something where you will have to decide what to do at that moment.

These are all specific scenarios where complications happen and decisions need to be made. These comprise of a very small percentage of abortions. Most abortions are done because Women simply don't want to raise a child.
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-GalacticBass- posted...
I want to make clear that I do not believe Trump is a godly man. Republicans and Democrats are corrupt. Our government is corrupt. I voted for Trump because I believe he is the lesser of two evils.

But thats clearly not the case, regardless of what you think. Theres a clear and cut distinction between both candidates as far as who constitutes the lesser of two evils, especially within the Christian framework.

Youre either using the book, or youre not.
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-GalacticBass- posted...
I want to make clear that I do not believe Trump is a godly man. Republicans and Democrats are corrupt. Our government is corrupt. I voted for Trump because I believe he is the lesser of two evils.

You think the guy who has voiced support and intention to shut down the free press and imprison or execute his political rivals for "treason" is the "lesser of two evils?"

Perhaps we have all fallen victim to the media demonizing one another for clicks and views.

You mean Trump? Because the hate comes straight from the horse's mouth, often on video. Such as:
--He has stated that he will go after the free press.
--He spread the lies that Haitian immigrants are eating peoples' pets.
--He posts divisive tweets filled with personal attacks on Holidays.
--He used "Palestinian" as an insult towards his political rivals.
--In 2016, he was on record stating that he wants to deport American citizens accused of terrorism to Guantanamo Bay and subject them to military tribunal, because he doesn't like the idea of them going through the American court system at all.
--He continues to call for the execution of the Central Park 5 even a full decade after they were exonerated.
--He has a long history of posting paranoid Sinophobic tweets.
--He calls Democrats and the free press "the enemy"
--He greenlit his administration separating family members of illegals, and they didn't even keep records of who was separated from whom, which made it difficult if not impossible to reunite the families. They even separated infants from their mothers.
--He wants to make it illegal to give illegal immigrants legal representation.

None of these examples are from media-demonizing. These come straight from Trump's own mouth or fingers. Does this sound like "the lesser of two evils" to you?
KanWan posted...
But thats clearly not the case, regardless of what you think. Theres a clear and cut distinction between both candidates as far as what constitutes the lesser of two evils, especially within the Christian framework.

Youre either using the book, or youre not.
This. A literal antichrist as "the lesser of two evils" is just a really bad joke.
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-GalacticBass- posted...
These comprise of a very small percentage of abortions. Most abortions are done because Women simply don't want to raise a child.

Ah, you gave up the ghost there. You're 10000% full of shit and hopefully your boring ass trolling posts will get modded.
Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.
Nothing says lesser of 2 evils like copying the Hitler and Nazi playbook from the 1920s/1930s.
BlueBoy675 posted...
Mods please close this topic

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-GalacticBass- posted...
These are all specific scenarios where complications happen and decisions need to be made.
These decisions are incredibly circumscribed by the abortion bans placed into effect by states enabled by Supreme Court justices appointed by Trump. Women have suffered severe health complications as a result of doctors being unable or unwilling to give them the necessary care.

But you know this. And I'm sure you also know that abortions have gone up since Dobbs.

You can't prevent abortions; restrictive policies can only make them less safe for all involved.
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It seems like responding anymore is simply not fruitful. I'm giving you all my honest beliefs and you think I am trolling. I am trying to have a dialogue with you all but if you think I am trolling then there is not point. I'm sorry for upsetting you all and even though we may see things differently, I pray you find peace in the coming years. Thank you for your time.
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-GalacticBass- posted...
It seems like responding anymore is simply not fruitful. I'm giving you all my honest beliefs and you think I am trolling. I am trying to have a dialogue with you all but if you think I am trolling then there is not point. I'm sorry for upsetting you all and even though we may see things differently, I pray you find peace in the coming years. Thank you for your time.

Lol

Reminds me of this

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/876016ff.jpg

but this one was funnier ^^^

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-GalacticBass- posted...
I'm giving you all my honest beliefs and you think I am trolling.

Because you say things like this. This is a lie. A very obvious lie. You are lying. Your god wouldn't like that, in fact, lying is like... one of the super easy 10 things that you are supposed to remember.

-GalacticBass- posted... Most abortions are done because Women simply don't want to raise a child.


Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.
-GalacticBass- posted...
It seems like responding anymore is simply not fruitful. I'm giving you all my honest beliefs and you think I am trolling. I am trying to have a dialogue with you all but if you think I am trolling then there is not point. I'm sorry for upsetting you all and even though we may see things differently, I pray you find peace in the coming years. Thank you for your time.

Please answer my 2nd post, first.

In addition, I have a few more examples:
--He stated that former sen Liz Cheney wouldn't be defying him if she were "looking down 9 barrels of gunfire" because she endorsed Harris.
--In 2016, he lamented that police no longer beat rally disrupters to the point that they need to be carried out in a stretcher like they did in "the good old days" He calls the lack of police brutality in this scenario "political correctness"
--In 2016, suggested assassinating the family members of terrorists "as a deterrent"
--In 2012, he insinuated that John McCain needed to defer to the former CIA head of torture under Bush's presidency for the definition of torture. Said CIA head claimed that waterboarding is not torture because "it leaves no marks and doesn't cause permanent damage" (the latter is not always true. Also, by this definition, creating deepfakes of the suspect's family members being abused or assassinated wouldn't be a form of torture)
--He has repeatedly demonized and victim-blamed Mike Pence at rallies and on social media, who was nearly assassinated by an angry mob of his domestic terrorist supporters for refusing to overturn the 2020 election results. He has also called for Pence to be imprisoned for treason for it.
--In 2012, he suggested denying medical treatment to the Boston Marathon Bomber (who had yet to be convicted) as a form of "enhanced interrogation" as well as waterboarding him (he was shot in the face)
--In 2012, he insinuated that John McCain needed to defer to the former CIA head of torture under Bush's presidency for the definition of torture. Said CIA head claimed that waterboarding is not torture because "it leaves no marks and doesn't cause permanent damage" (the latter is not always true. Also, by this definition, creating deepfakes of the suspect's family members being abused or assassinated wouldn't be a form of torture.)

Again, these all come straight from videos and tweets, and not from media reports (okay, the family separation thing might be a bit different, but Trump has repeatedly defended the entire thing )

Antiyonder posted...
@-GalacticBass-

Yeah, respond to Heineken first,

What about Harris made you think she would be the worse one? It wouldn't be due to gender roles would it?

It will be purely religious concern trolling "I believe God protects children and he would protect them!" anti-abortion nonsense. It's also currently 9:16PM so I've typed this out before hand to see how right I am when he responds.

So I was wrong. He just went the cowardly religious concern troll route because nobody was aggressively biting on his bullshit and did the "I'll pray for you to my version god that makes it ok for me to make other people suffer."
Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.
If you think I'm trolling then why would you want me to respond?
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@-GalacticBass-
I do not believe oral contraception is healthy for Women and it should be avoided.

Not your call to make. And I ask you to respond as thorough as possible.

These are all specific scenarios where complications happen and decisions need to be made. These comprise of a very small percentage of abortions. Most abortions are done because Women simply don't want to raise a child.

Reason I asked about the rape scenario is cause I feel it proves that Anti-Abortion is less concern over a child* and more about keeping women from enjoying sex.

If you deny an abortion even in the case of rape, you are clearly just doing so to have control over women.

If you concede, it doesn't make the abortion less of a murder going by your rules and again it reaffirms that women should be our property.

Why did you deem Harris to be the worse choice?

*Point is especially demonstrated with how guys aren't pushed into taking care of the kid they help make.

Also if you cared about kids and their safety, you would:
- Push for a better economy so that willing parents could not only provide better for their kids, but also to be able to have the time to spare for being with their kids.

- Better support for various other childcare services.

- Helping to better the environment so that kids have a healthy planet to grow up in.

- Improvements for education.
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-GalacticBass- posted...
If you think I'm trolling then why would you want me to respond?

Is this addressed to me or Heineken?
@-GalacticBass-
If you think I'm trolling then why would you want me to respond?

Giving you a chance to prove it which it would help to respond to as much as possible.
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Hyena_Of_Ice posted...
Is this addressed to me or Heineken?

This was addressed to you. Do you think I'm trolling?
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Hyena_Of_Ice posted...
Is this addressed to me or Heineken?

Me, but he's using it to not respond to you.
Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.
People believe what is right in front of them, and right now people see that we have two political parties and the only way to make things better is to pick whichever one is not in charge. We can do mental gymnastics to try to say that Biden did a good job or that nothing that went wrong was his fault, but that really doesnt matter. When the quality of life sucks, the president gets the blame whether its their fault or not.

With that said, people must have been SO desperate that they prioritized feeding their families over common decency. Rent was $1400 under Trump and $2500 under Biden. The bag of chips was $1.80 under Trump and $7.50 under Biden. A coke was $1 under Trump and $2.75 under Biden These thoughts really add up when someone is responsible for feeding a family and feels like theyre being punished by the government, and it frames it in a way that makes it look like either Trump fought for us or Biden intentionally punished us.

For what its worth, I voted for Harris, but I genuinely dont think that hatred or indecency was behind most Trump voters decisions. I voted for decency and to protect our citizens from what I view as unjust laws, but I cant argue against anyone who asks me what thats worth if we all starve to death. Most of us are merely surviving day to day when we want to be freaking living.
-GalacticBass- posted...
I do. I am a Christian and I always tell my conservative, Christian, friends that we shouldn't treat those who disagree with us with the same hate that they treat us with. We need to pray for them and love them as Christ loves them.

You claim to be a Christian. Doesnt that mean youre supposed to do what Jesus taught?

Jesus said to help the poor. You voted for the candidate who wants to eliminate all programs that help the poor.

Jesus said to heal the sick. You voted for the candidate who is going to get rid of healthcare for millions of people.

Jesus said to love your enemy. You voted for the candidate who talks about taking revenge on everyone who slighted him.

Jesus said to treat aliens with kindness. You voted for the candidates who is going to deport all immigrants.

You are not a follower of Christ, and neither is anyone who voted for Trump. Trump is the exact opposite of everything Jesus stood for.

The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction has to make sense.
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For what its worth, I voted for Harris, but I genuinely dont think that hatred or indecency was behind most Trump voters decisions. I voted for common decency and to protect our citizens from what I view as unjust laws, but I cant argue against anyone who asks me what thats worth if we all starve to death.

Yeah, I guess I feel if concern for outsiders is insignificant, than why not resort to being a burglar or hitman for example to get money?

I feel the reason is lack of conviction. They want to focus on themselves or their families only, but not being misjudged for it.
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Payzmaykr posted...
I cant argue against anyone who asks me what thats worth if we all starve to death.
Wages had outpaced inflation for most Americans. Discretionary spending was up. The idea that swathes of middle class people were starving is as fictional as people eating cats in Springfield. Right wing media lied about the economy the way they lie about every other topic, and people who reported that their own personal finances had improved were given the impression that the broader economy was in a recession.
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Payzmaykr posted...
People believe what is right in front of them, and right now people see that we have two political parties and the only way to make things better is to pick whichever one is not in charge. We can do mental gymnastics to try to say that Biden did a good job or that nothing that went wrong was his fault, but that really doesnt matter. When the quality of life sucks, the president gets the blame whether its their fault or not.

With that said, people must have been SO desperate that they prioritized feeding their families over common decency. Rent was $1400 under Trump and $2500 under Biden. The bag of chips was $1.80 under Trump and $7.50 under Biden. A coke was $1 under Trump and $2.75 under Biden These thoughts really add up when someone is responsible for feeding a family and feels like theyre being punished by the government, and it frames it in a way that makes it look like either Trump fought for us or Biden intentionally punished us.

For what its worth, I voted for Harris, but I genuinely dont think that hatred or indecency was behind most Trump voters decisions. I voted for decency and to protect our citizens from what I view as unjust laws, but I cant argue against anyone who asks me what thats worth if we all starve to death. Most of us are merely surviving day to day when we want to be freaking living.
Yep. We want to blame bigots and fascists, and yes they do vote for Trump, but this is why the majority of people voted for Trump. It is all about the economy.

I don't agree, but this is what happened
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Yep. We want to blame bigots and fascists, and yes they do vote for Trump, but this is why the majority of people voted for Trump. It is all about the economy.

I don't agree, but this is what happened

Like I asked, why not just pull off some crimes?

It's like anyone apathetic to bigotry independent of the election. People wanting to focus on themselves, but judged favorably for it. But I can't think of any single individual who would deserve that entitlement.
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Hejiru posted...
You claim to be a Christian. Doesnt that mean youre supposed to do what Jesus taught?

Jesus said to help the poor. You voted for the candidate who wants to eliminate all programs that help the poor.

Jesus said to heal the sick. You voted for the candidate who is going to get rid of healthcare for millions of people.

Jesus said to love your enemy. You voted for the candidate who talks about taking revenge on everyone who slighted him.

Jesus said to treat aliens with kindness. You voted for the candidates who is going to deport all immigrants.

You are not a follower of Christ, and neither is anyone who voted for Trump. Trump is the exact opposite of everything Jesus stood for.
It really boggles my mind that people call themselves Christians when they dont even follow the most basic teachings of the faith. Thats part of why I walked away from the church years ago. I was raised southern Baptist and I always had this feeling in the back of my mind that all these people I would see at church week after week really didnt give a shit. And now looking at the current state of Christianity it appears I was right.
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