Trees and land absorbed almost no CO2 last year, nature's carbon sink failing?

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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/oct/14/nature-carbon-sink-collapse-global-heating-models-emissions-targets-evidence-aoe

A few days old, but its horrifying how close we are to a total collapse of a livable planet and people seem to just be trying to keep there heads in the sand...god damn it, in New Jersey its hardly rained at all this month...it does feel like in all directions its becoming harder to not notice this and pepole are just becoming even more in denial, and the fact that many are just unwilling to even try and tackle Big Oil and rather would just prepare themselves to doomsday is...such a bleak statement about humanity.
They keep cutting them down
It all returns to nothing
It just keeps tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down. (NGE)
People do notice. People just stopped caring because they're either selfish or think humanity is going to be extinct anyways.
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Were screwed
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As far as I know from intro to Biology at College, plants/trees need CO2 for photosynthesis. Not sure why they all of a sudden wouldnt.
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The fuck. Is this really as bad as I think it is? Sounds like were fucked in our own lifetimes if true
It's literally the same thing
Most people I talk to are just like "How the hell am I supposed to fix it?" And I get it.

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Dakimakura posted...
As far as I know from intro to Biology at College

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boomgetchopped3 posted...
The fuck. Is this really as bad as I think it is? Sounds like were fucked in our own lifetimes if true

There is a good possibility all of us will watch the human race go extinct in the next ten years.
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boomgetchopped3 posted...
The fuck. Is this really as bad as I think it is? Sounds like were fucked in our own lifetimes if true
Yup, and it'll probably deteriorate much quicker than scientists think it will because well, corporate greed says fuck everything profit matters even if the endgame is destruction of the planet
A worthless existence
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Thank god I don't care about this stuff, or I'd be mortified.
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Dakimakura posted...
As far as I know from intro to Biology at College, plants/trees need CO2 for photosynthesis. Not sure why they all of a sudden wouldnt.

This is correct.
It all returns to nothing
It just keeps tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down. (NGE)
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You ever just sit and think about how this isn't like some sudden disaster we didn't see coming? About the people that knowingly pushed passed the scientists and somehow convinced a huge chunk of people to just ignore it? And how if this does turn catastrophic in our life times they'll just shrug and maybe say "oops".
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Darkraiomb posted...
Thank god I don't care about this stuff, or I'd be mortified.
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I'm just trying to enjoy my life as I have it day by day. My outlook on the future is grim at best. I don't believe we'll manage to rope our world powers together to prevent this. They've dragged their feet on the matter for decades and have buried it for even longer. And when the chickens do come home to roost, it will be far too late. The elites extracted all they could and fattened themselves up as much as possible. When the average people finally revolt, it's already too late, they've already won and can die with a full belly. They ate our world.
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It's kind of bleak to see teenagers and little kids and realize those brats have no future, this is the happiest they'll be and they are blissfully unaware that the world they have now is the best it's gonna be by the time they reach our age the world will probably look like fallout or some bleak shit like that.
A worthless existence
GhostFaceLeaks posted...
There is a good possibility all of us will watch the human race go extinct in the next ten years.

No.
Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.
Dakimakura posted...
As far as I know from intro to Biology at College, plants/trees need CO2 for photosynthesis. Not sure why they all of a sudden wouldnt.

Its not that trees arent absorbing CO2 anymore.

its that theres less trees.
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Ok, what the article is actually talking about is net carbon absorption, not gross. Still not good, but when I read this I thought that trees suddenly stopped absorbing co2 which is not the case.
It's literally the same thing
We just have to hope algae manages to surv....oh....
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Necronmon posted...
A few days old, but its horrifying how close we are to a total collapse of a livable planet and people seem to just be trying to keep there heads in the sand...
Who's "people"? Because most of us are aware it exists, we just can't do anything about it.

Hell, the vast vast vast majority of individuals couldn't hope to pollute as much as the capitalist system does.

tremain07 posted...
Yup, and it'll probably deteriorate much quicker than scientists think it will because well, corporate greed says fuck everything profit matters even if the endgame is destruction of the planet
The planet won't be destroyed. Hell, we won't even manage to wipe out life on it. Of course, life as we know it, including our own, will absolutely end, I'm just saying.
Time is a funny thing, you know? I guess in the big picture of my life, you were only a blip. But oftentimes, those "blips" make the biggest impacts.
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Gladius_ posted...


I think it's less that people don't care and more that on a whole we're all powerless to stop it. The only thing that will save our planet is if the world's governments got together and put put policies with the specific goal of saving it. Without that there's nothing we can do because we can't gather enough people to make a difference.

It's always going to be in the hands of the people in power and the people in power largely don't care.

Yeah it's like... what can I do when you have airplanes flying nonsensical flights for the sole reason of keeping runway times.
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AndyReklaw posted...
You ever just sit and think about how this isn't like some sudden disaster we didn't see coming? About the people that knowingly pushed passed the scientists and somehow convinced a huge chunk of people to just ignore it? And how if this does turn catastrophic in our life times they'll just shrug and maybe say "oops".

They won't say oops. They'll blame the scientists that warned them
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The planet won't be destroyed. Hell, we won't even manage to wipe out life on it. Of course, life as we know it, including our own, will absolutely end, I'm just saying.
Time is a funny thing, you know? I guess in the big picture of my life, you were only a blip. But oftentimes, those "blips" make the biggest impacts.

If Earth is just another rock flying through space with only mindless bugs being left all worthwhile life will be over so its the same thing.
Necronmon posted...
If Earth is just another rock flying through space with only mindless bugs being left all worthwhile life will be over so its the same thing.
Not necesserially. Intelligent life could evolve again.

Now yeah, theoretically, that could happen even on a space rock with no existing life, but having some life as a starting point makes it much easier.
And they say that a Trumble will save us...
GhostFaceLeaks posted...
There is a good possibility all of us will watch the human race go extinct in the next ten years.

Humanity wont go extinct, but expect a massive die off in the hardest-hit parts of the world.

Australias already barely habitable as it is.
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Dakimakura posted...
As far as I know from intro to Biology at College, plants/trees need CO2 for photosynthesis. Not sure why they all of a sudden wouldnt.
iirc, plants stop processing co2 if it gets too hot for them.
iirc, plants stop processing co2 if it gets too hot for them

That's what's horrifying, the death spiral that will break everything. New Jersey is having a drought with hardly any rain in two months...it feels like the whole planet's drying up
Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...
The planet won't be destroyed. Hell, we won't even manage to wipe out life on it. Of course, life as we know it, including our own, will absolutely end, I'm just saying.
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AndyReklaw posted...
You ever just sit and think about how this isn't like some sudden disaster we didn't see coming? About the people that knowingly pushed passed the scientists and somehow convinced a huge chunk of people to just ignore it? And how if this does turn catastrophic in our life times they'll just shrug and maybe say "oops".

Don't look up.
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Ilishe posted...
Don't look up.
That movie was so extremely on the nose and preachy... But I did kinda enjoy it.
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Good thing they keep clearing out trees. Like Scotland cutting down 14-16 million trees for wind turbines...

Hell, even around here there's so, so many trees and clustered forestry just cut down to pack in more and more houses... gotta remove any trace of a tree.
This is probably why we can't find aliens. Most civilizations probably destroy themselves before they ever advance to star Trek levels
Ok, plants absorb CO2... but when plants die that CO2 is released. CO2 is only sequestered for the lifespan of a tree plus its decomposition time

The only counter is not just planting more trees, but continually planting more trees on a schedule to account for the death of old trees.

the other other solution is to somehow store or fossilize dead trees so they don't release their sequestered CO2
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Lokarin posted...
Ok, plants absorb CO2... but when plants die that CO2 is released. CO2 is only sequestered for the lifespan of a tree plus its decomposition time

The only counter is not just planting more trees, but continually planting more trees on a schedule to account for the death of old trees.

the other other solution is to somehow store or fossilize dead trees so they don't release their sequestered CO2
If done right, the trees will plant more trees.
And they say that a Trumble will save us...
CO2 itself isnt really some duper bad substance. Its naturally occurring you drunk some in any carbonated beverage you had this week. The problem is people being stupid. Plant more trees to replace the trees you chop down problem solved. Trees dont release some large harmful amount of gases into the atmosphere when they die. You know what produces large amounts of greenhouse gases? LARGE MANUFACTURING PLANTS do and I almost never see that actual problem pointed out in these conversations. Trees SOLVE THE PROBLEM when left alone!

Basic actual science 101. The solution isnt hard or unattainable it just makes too much sense and people need to be outraged or confused all the time. Plant more trees, stop clear cutting trees and destroying the Amazon regulate the actual large plants who never stopped releasing pollutants into the atmosphere (hint: most arent even in America) and the problem is solved in less than a decade. 2020 showed us we can clean up the oceans in less than a year and the skies cleared up a lot too.
It all returns to nothing
It just keeps tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down. (NGE)
Trumble posted...
If done right, the trees will plant more trees.

Trees propagate in a small radius, only some of which will be in a new direction without other trees.

Plus there are natural sources of loss like wildfires which further upset the balance

https://www.globalforestwatch.org/map/
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CreekCo posted...
CO2 itself isnt really some duper bad substance. Its naturally occurring you drunk some in any carbonated beverage you had this week. The problem is people being stupid. Plant more trees to replace the trees you chop down problem solved. Trees dont release some large harmful amount of gases into the atmosphere when they die. You know what produces large amounts of greenhouse gases? LARGE MANUFACTURING PLANTS do and I almost never see that actual problem pointed out in these conversations. Trees SOLVE THE PROBLEM when left alone!

Basic actual science 101. The solution isnt hard or unattainable it just makes too much sense and people need to be outraged or confused all the time. Plant more trees, stop clear cutting trees and destroying the Amazon regulate the actual large plants who never stopped releasing pollutants into the atmosphere (hint: most arent even in America) and the problem is solved in less than a decade. 2020 showed us we can clean up the oceans in less than a year and the skies cleared up a lot too.

The solution isnt hard, just regulate late-capitalism!

Folks, finally someones figured it out. How did the rest of us miss it? Its dead simple. Just get the rich and their pocket governments to stop.

Im sure theyll follow up with exactly how the peasantry can do that.
If something is hard, you weren't meant to do it.
We're fucked and it doesn't matter, is the long as short. Our governments are absolutely useless, corps are enjoying a golden era of recycling money with investment/wealth management firms for infinite money so they barely need consumers, and the environment is dying for this glorious moment of line go up.

People don't care because they're distracted by entertainment and instant gratification at every turn, corps didn't care because that generates money, governments don't care because they're too busy dick measuring about who has the most sway and can pander the most while slipping in laws to objectively make the human experience worse.

So... Embrace it. Do what you can, but it won't make a difference at this point, it's WAY out of the hand of the public and the other entities couldn't possibly care less.
R_Jackal posted...
We're fucked and it doesn't matter, is the long as short. Our governments are absolutely useless, corps are enjoying a golden era of recycling money with investment/wealth management firms for infinite money so they barely need consumers, and the environment is dying for this glorious moment of line go up.

People don't care because they're distracted by entertainment and instant gratification at every turn, corps didn't care because that generates money, governments don't care because they're too busy dick measuring about who has the most sway and can pander the most while slipping in laws to objectively make the human experience worse.

So... Embrace it. Do what you can, but it won't make a difference at this point, it's WAY out of the hand of the public and the other entities couldn't possibly care less.

This is 100% correct. Im even tempted to just pack in my study (that Im already failing anyway) because what future is there to lose? Just sit home and drink alcohol.

And the worst part is boomers have the nerve to call us lazy for saying that despite being the fucking assholes who screwed our future in the first place.
If something is hard, you weren't meant to do it.
Dark_Arbron posted...
This is 100% correct. Im even tempted to just pack in my study (that Im already failing anyway) because what future is there to lose? Just sit home and drink alcohol.

And the worst part is boomers have the nerve to call us lazy for saying that despite being the fucking assholes who screwed our future in the first place.

Yeah, let's respond to boomers' disastrous apathy toward the issue with more apathy ourselves. Let's just drink our problems away like they do!
LoZguy709 posted...
Yeah, let's respond to boomers' disastrous apathy toward the issue with more apathy ourselves. Let's just drink our problems away like they do!
It's easy to think like that given how things are. For me, even in the face of futility it's good to keep trying. I accept what efforts I can make are trivial and aren't going to tip any scales, but I still can't just do nothing.
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