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Rotterdammerung posted...
What is the appeal of Vtubers? I don't get it.
They're just streamers. Consider them the halfway point between no cam and facecam. If you like the content they make there's no difference between them and any other streamer.
fuck....... at least it's an ame style graduation but that sucks, chloe was bordering on jp oshi for me :(
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Rotterdammerung posted...
What is the appeal of Vtubers? I don't get it.


Aside from what others have mentioned on last page and this page......there's also the appeal of the avatar they use. They are basically combining anime style cuteness/coolness with their streaming activity. It's also not uncommon for them to have a fantastical, whimsical appearance that normally won't be often seen, or even won't be possible, with regular human streamers.
Rotterdammerung posted...
What is the appeal of Vtubers? I don't get it.
Just think of them as streamers. They make entertaining content.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sowESlcktC8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e525GPmJ4v8
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Ok, now I'm actually worried
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Aw man. Fauna's easily my favorite. Even if she continues on her own, it won't be the same. Her interactions with the other girls are so great.
This user is awesome!:
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Remember that "negligible" meme the rainbow company started? The suits in Cover feel the same way, they're just not dumb enough to admit it publicly.
People have been saying that Fauna has uploaded a few vids on her pl's yt account so yeah this doesn't look like it'd be good news.
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she uploaded a couple different shitposts over the last week but I view it the same as Moom/Kronii/IRyS PLs very intermittently doing stuff to show they haven't died

the timing is very suspicious, though, seeing as unlike them she's been borderline radio silent on that end for most of the duration :(
Why not go all in?
Well, I'm just hoping she's not leaving if mainly because she has possibly some of the best ASMRs in general alongside Okayu, Noel and some other non-corporate ones I follow - I often put those on at night to chill out.

But it's gonna be that, isn't it?
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Full on graduation. Disagreement with management.

Dayum.
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Im fuckin sick rn
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God dammit, I was right, and I didn't want to be
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What are they -doing- over there?
Why not go all in?
Damn two grad announcements in as many days.
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If it's any consolation, given how Aqua and Amelia basically resumed streaming under a new persona, and graduated for the same reason, who's to say Fauna won't do the same.

It's really strange though, you'd think Holo of all places wouldn't have an exodus like this
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i hope if something's going with holo they're gonna be able to pull it all together soon, bc it hurts to see all the girls go
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:((

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FWIW it's bound to happen with corporate vtubers eventually, anyway. As someone said before, unless their goals 100% line up, they're going to want to leave eventually.

It just sucks that the cracks are beginning to show as they've had now, what, two major graduations and two quickly announced ones? It also doesn't help that with corporate vtubers, the corporation owns the model, persona and all that. That was at least the good side of Vei, Nyanners and Silvervale leaving Vshojo, they could keep their models and whatnot and just continue without restarting.
I am a super sandwich!
http://www.last.fm/user/ToxicOrochi
By the way, apropos of nothing at all, here's a little song (though it feels a little sadder given this context...):

https://youtu.be/4P8lm61vvnQ?si=7KJ8u_qPfMcyh55n
This user is awesome!:
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I hope she starts streaming regularly on her other channel. Looks like she mostly did ASMR before Hololive.

I think her fans will certainly follow at least.
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Could you please link me to that because I'm interested
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MorbidEngel posted...
Could you please link me to that because I'm interested

AndyReklaw posted...
By the way, apropos of nothing at all, here's little song (though it feels a little sadder given this context...):
https://youtu.be/4P8lm61vvnQ?si=7KJ8u_qPfMcyh55n

El sexo sucio y el planeta limpio.
"If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you."
Hopefully her being blunt about the reason is a wake up call for Cover.

MorbidEngel posted...
you'd think Holo of all places wouldn't have an exodus like this
Going public and having to listen to investors who only see the talents as replacable employees would cause that in any company.
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Huh, that's it? There's no ASMR there, if what Kenobi said is right
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http://www.last.fm/user/ToxicOrochi
MorbidEngel posted...
Huh, that's it? There's no ASMR there, if what Kenobi said is right
She has 2 channels, add ASMR at the end of that channel.
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Oh cool, I'm in
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http://www.last.fm/user/ToxicOrochi
To be honest, I'm proud of her. Honestly, she always struck me as a more passive type of person given how she talks on stream, but to see her basically say "no, I won't go on like this" and take control of the situation is admirable.
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As soon as Ame left, I wondered who would be next and how soon. I wish it wasn't Fauna. But I bet we hear from her again as an indie
Now the unfortunate question is, who else is going to go
I am a super sandwich!
http://www.last.fm/user/ToxicOrochi
A lot of Moom's statements are that she wants to work on stuff with other girls so she's kinda up in the air (though I suspect she'll leave content creating when she's done with "Civ Duties" regardless)

Gura is, as ever, an enigma.

Outside of that nobody strikes me as an...immediate sort of risk? Like the one I'd be most concerned over in the current EN lineup is Kronii if anything and she seems pretty chill right now if not uncharacteristically optimistic about things.

...then again I never imagined Fauna deciding to leave, either. Not Ms. "I'll keep streaming when I'm 90 if I'm able to"
Why not go all in?
As an aside, I put one of the Lemonleaf ASMRs on and wow, this voice is the exact same. The equipment is nowhere as good on these but if she goes back to this with what she has now, it'll definitely be much better.

but yeah, I'm thinking what's happening is Holo is getting bigger and bigger and what they're asking of the talent as a result is not really aligning with what they signed up for. Really, that more or less sounds like what happens when something gets more and more corporate, what you do turns into work and becomes much more rigid, resulting in not being able to do what one wants to do and had signed on to do.
I am a super sandwich!
http://www.last.fm/user/ToxicOrochi
MorbidEngel posted...
As an aside, I put one of the Lemonleaf ASMRs on and wow, this voice is the exact same. The equipment is nowhere as good on these but if she goes back to this with what she has now, it'll definitely be much better.

but yeah, I'm thinking what's happening is Holo is getting bigger and bigger and what they're asking of the talent as a result is not really aligning with what they signed up for. Really, that more or less sounds like what happens when something gets more and more corporate, what you do turns into work and becomes much more rigid, resulting in not being able to do what one wants to do and had signed on to do.
The ones who want to stream primarily will likely fall out honestly, as Holo leans more and more into the idol scene. Randon/Vesper recently touched on it in a video. A lot of idea rejection to protect the brand, and turning activities into work.
R_Jackal posted...
The ones who want to stream primarily will likely fall out honestly, as Holo leans more and more into the idol scene. Randon/Vesper recently touched on it in a video. A lot of idea rejection to protect the brand, and turning activities into work.
Fauna literally said she liked being an idol. Stop with the idol angle.
Renne posted...
Fauna literally said she liked being an idol. Stop with the idol angle.
I wasn't talking about Fauna, just in general. I was just talking about how the business moves. Being a streamer is already a ton of work as is being an idol, which is more or less what I wager it was with Aqua/Chloe. That doesn't mean any bad blood, so chill. Business is business and as a company grows not every employee is going to live up perfectly with our as they and the business want different things.
You can dislike how a company is managed and leave over it and not have any bad blood with the company itself.
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aqua also liked being an idol. I can't say too much about chloe I wasn't a super avid watcher

I don't think the shift in direction is a shift to being an idol agency or something, because that's not a recent shift. that was like, already well underway by the time fauna joined , let alone years later. I think it's more likely a shift towards things like... voice dramas, weird video projects, agency-mandated groups, events and other sponsored things. all kind of behind-the-scenes work and all kind of "products" compared to things like normal streams and 3D streams and even concerts
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that does make sense. Fauna had sat out like...every voice pack since they started dropping voicepacks every month, for instance. I could see getting asked to record more sellable things rubbing her the wrong way
Why not go all in?
Even if "leaning more towards idol scene" is not the reason for Fauna, I do wonder if it can be the reason for any future graduations.

One name that's in my mind right now : Kaela. She most likely will not graduate/"become affiliate" anytime soon because she just recently gets to be the ambassador for HoloIndie, but if Kaela ever leave one day, I can see the push for more idol activities being one of the reasons.

Those of you who know her, would already know that she's extremely gaming and streaming focused, to the point where the first thing she did after returning from vacation, is not to do her piling up "homeworks", but to run straight to her studio to play a game. Her collab stream even has others pointing out she can stream despite saying she can't concentrate on her "homework" due to the issue in her studio lol.

....That also got me thinking, though. Those "products" you mention.....maybe they could be the "homework" that HoloID gang have been talking about lately?
It likely is. I don't mean for it to sound bad or anything if I offended anyone, just saying Idol work(which does include things like the voice packs, etc) is... A lot. It's a monumental amount of work, as is being an even moderately successful streamer. I had a job I loved, working at a friend's lawn care business for example--eventually he went kinda locally viral online and he started traveling out more and more for jobs. I loved it but the volume and distance I had to travel I just legitimately couldn't do any more so I had to quit. No bad blood, I just couldn't keep up, which wasn't good for me or them. I just see that as a possibility here.

As someone who was in to the idol scene in my teens they basically throw out an endless stream of merch, voice packs, music, etc. Gotta be rough while streaming too.
Every company goes to shit as it grows unfortunately. That's just capitalism. Even then, I was definitely expecting there to be an uptick in graduations just because it seemed inevitable. People in other careers change jobs often, so why wouldn't it be the same here?

Whether it's related to the idol stuff or not, I would hope that anyone who doesn't want to or can't partake in the idol side as often gets allowed that freedom.
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Twinklestar posted...
....That also got me thinking, though. Those "products" you mention.....maybe they could be the "homework" that HoloID gang have been talking about lately?
Maybe this is being a bit nitpicky but the way you phrased this makes me want to be clear: I don't actually know what's going on internally either. It's not like I know what "products" or whatever they're making and you're supposed to fit things you see to that. It's just a guess I made based on various sorts of available info, one of which is the "homework" thing (and it's not just ID that's mentioned it)

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/s/TVpUQxIoPv

Altare venting as well. Numerous talents have complained about management, it seems a persistent issue that will drive the talents away.
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Ah she plans to finish LA Noire. That's been a hoot to watch, so I'm glad for that. :)
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Listening to the other girls talk about it (as much as they can, anyway) throughout the day reassures me that we aren't facing any sort of domino effect, but also raises several questions as to the nature of these disagreements with management that I seriously doubt we'll ever have an answer for

We've got
-They've known "for awhile" (since at least before Biboo announced going to JP. I suspect it ties in to the musical being titled "The Broken Promise")
-Shiori insists they aren't being forced to do Idol Stuff and is has no plans to leave (she's the only other person I'm particularly worried about in some theoretical Shift of Direction besides Kronii, who I doubt will leave unless she decides she's Done in general given her relative activity on both ends)
-Bae says the other Promise girls are good (or at least no worse than usual in Kronii's case of replying 'no' every time she's asked). Moom's moomin probably dying of finals week if anything
-Calli, Kiara emphasizing people have many reasons for leaving and it's not any single drastic thing, but the girls who are still around are working hard (cherish them)
Why not go all in?
Hmm.....now that I think about it, I wonder why did they choose to put up Chloe's announcement and Fauna's announcement back to back like that. Literally just 1 day difference.

And why, despite Fauna's announcement coming after Chloe's, Fauna will graduate first.

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kirbymuncher posted...

Maybe this is being a bit nitpicky but the way you phrased this makes me want to be clear: I don't actually know what's going on internally either. It's not like I know what "products" or whatever they're making and you're supposed to fit things you see to that. It's just a guess I made based on various sorts of available info, one of which is the "homework" thing (and it's not just ID that's mentioned it)


That's okay and fine, I'm also just guessing (hence the "maybe" and the question mark).
Twinklestar posted...
And why, despite Fauna's announcement coming after Chloe's, Fauna will graduate first.
Most likely Fauna just wanted to be done sooner and had less commitments tbh.
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Could also be a contract thing.
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I legit wonder if Bae's gonna bypass me. I just finished 5 on stream.

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