JD Vance won that debate handily.

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You can hate him and his policy but Walz did not present himself well enough for most of the debate. Easy win for the GOP, exact opposite of the Trump/Kamala debate (Kamala crushed Trump there).

Probably won't change votes but that is the reality imo.
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Walz presented himself as a real person instead of a talking point dispenser.
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Diceheist posted...
Walz presented himself as a real person instead of a talking point dispenser.

Walz seems like a good guy but isn't built for the bright lights.
Is a debate about affect or about the merits of ideas?
Have you tried thinking rationally?
Such good presentation when Vance got muted for yelling about the rules
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only way he won is if you have a bad memory and believed Trump didn't whine about Obamacare daily trying to kill it over and over as Vance goes "Trump understood how important Obamacare was and didn't terminate it"

like holy moly really?
sometimes I wonder how gullible people can truly be
Oh phew. I didn't watch it much, but this topic from this obvious right wingers saying the opposite of reality just reaffirms that Walz easily won.
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Another hot take from Rambo, here. He's had some winners in the past, too.

This one's just bad, and not as heinously bad, though.
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RamboCell29 posted...


Walz seems like a good guy but isn't built for the bright lights.
They guy who perpetuated lies about Haitians stealing pets and eating them, is a "good guy" in your opinion?
If you need the threat of eternal damnation to be a good person, you're just a bad person on leash.
Vance won by only kind of coming off like a lizard person in a human skinsuit.

But that's because the standards for conservatives are like, the 6th circle of hell, so Vance would have been regarded favourably as long as he didn't shout any racial slurs.

Walz didn't absolutely curbstomp Vance like Harris did with Trump, so every conservative will pretend Vance won because he wasn't completely embarrassed.
Cue the clown show.
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RamboCell29 posted...


Walz seems like a good guy but isn't built for the bright lights.

Walz seems like a good guy because he is a good guy. We didn't need him to be an attack dog, (Harris has that covered all on her own). Walz came across as human and relatable, while Vance reminded me of a salesman, (trying to sell me on facism with a practiced smile, and lies for days).
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Is TC quoting FOX News directly?
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Maybe if you put the debate on mute and not really listen intently to what they're saying. Even then, there's no way it's the exact opposite of Harris-Trump.
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Proto_Spark posted...
Vance won by only kind of coming off like a lizard person in a human skinsuit.

But that's because the standards for conservatives are like, the 6th circle of hell, so Vance would have been regarded favourably as long as he didn't shout any racial slurs.
Or inquire about how software updates are performed on females so that they can more effectively perform their functions (baby-dispensing and fuck hole).
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Yeah right. Vance's only redeeming part of the debate was not melting down like Trump despite a few gaffes here and there. He didn't answer any question even tangentially and especially ducked the J6 questions.

Walz may have botched the first question but overall he did well in actually advertising some of the Harris/Walz platform balanced with asserting what Trump would do and has already done. Walz delivered the only 2 big moments in this debate that I can recall, the abortion and J6 responses. Vance had no such moments (except when he got muted I guess)
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008Zulu posted...
They guy who perpetuated lies about Haitians stealing pets and eating them, is a "good guy" in your opinion?

Don't need to be a good guy to shine bright when the lights are on...

I happen to think Vance is a good guy. I happen to think Walz is a good guy with bad policy and poor stage presence.

Won't change a lot of votes but it is fun to watch these debates.
Just like Trump won the 2020 election right?

What was JD's answer about that one?
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RamboCell29 posted...
You can hate him and his policy but Walz did not present himself well enough for most of the debate. Easy win for the GOP, exact opposite of the Trump/Kamala debate (Kamala crushed Trump there).

Probably won't change votes but that is the reality imo.
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Lmao, this chud still running around coping?

Hey TC, just because Faux News says the sky is orange doesn't make it true. You support a clown.
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Walz destroyed him on the j6 stuff
RamboCell29 posted...
I happen to think Vance is a good guy
Making up lies about Haitians eating pets causing an increase in bomb threats / hate crimes / nazi marches in town aint something a good guy would do.
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LOL at Peter Thiel's tool with the infinitely malleable political positions being a "good guy".

Trump better hope he doesn't win. I can't imagine a worse place to be than between a creature of Peter Thiel and the presidency.
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Big shock, Trump cultists says Trump's stooge won.
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Incorrect.

Cope and seethe.
Dude that said Trump won against Harris says more dumb shit lool
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YellowSUV posted...
Big shock, Trump cultists says Trump's stooge won.
Have they said anything about the J6 question? :P
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mybbqrules posted...
Lmao, this chud still running around coping?

Hey TC, just because Faux News says the sky is orange doesn't make it true. You support a clown.

Tbh I supported DeSantis in the primary, and had many other options above Trump. But alas, I am forced to pick between a flawed candidate with decent policy and Kamala with subpar policy. So I pick the flawed candidate with decent policy and get to hope for better options in 2028.
RamboCell29 posted...
Tbh I supported DeSantis in the primary, and had many other options above Trump. But alas, I am forced to pick between a flawed candidate with decent policy and Kamala with subpar policy. So I pick the flawed candidate with decent policy and get to hope for better options in 2028.
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Irony posted...
Dude that said Trump won against Harris says more dumb shit lool

Wrong guy, Harris won that debate handily. Trump fumbled big time there.

In fact, Trump has never had a good debate except for some viral clips on the Hillary jail comment and a few others.
RamboCell29 posted...
Tbh I supported DeSantis in the primary.

I am so very sorry, but...there's no hope for you.
RamboCell29 posted...
Tbh I supported DeSantis in the primary, and had many other options above Trump. But alas, I am forced to pick between a flawed candidate with decent policy and Kamala with subpar policy. So I pick the flawed candidate with decent policy and get to hope for better options in 2028.

Why do you support bigotry, intolerance, hatred, and fascism?

These are explicit things pushed by Trump, Vance, and the GOP.
RamboCell29 posted...
I happen to think Vance is a good guy.

lol
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RamboCell29 posted...
Tbh I supported DeSantis in the primary, and had many other options above Trump. But alas, I am forced to pick between a flawed candidate with decent policy and Kamala with subpar policy. So I pick the flawed candidate with decent policy and get to hope for better options in 2028.

Trump has policy?
BlackScythe0 posted...
Trump has policy?

He has concepts!
RamboCell29 posted...
Tbh I supported DeSantis in the primary

So of course you would think JD is a great guy, LOL.
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RamboCell29 posted...
Tbh I supported DeSantis in the primary
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Trump has policy?

Deport illegals and secure border
Lower taxes
Less likely to ban guns

Those are my top issues. If you like abortion or other lefty issues then vote for Harris I guess...

RamboCell29 posted...
So I pick the flawed candidate with decent policy and get to hope for better options in 2028.
Trump's only "policy" is scapegoating immigrants as being uniquely evil and responsible for all of the country's problems.

Just like Hitler back in the day claiming that Jews were uniquely evil and responsible for all of Germany's problems.

You call this shit "decent".
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Trump has policy?

Enacting Kristallnacht 2.0 is technically a policy.
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RamboCell29 posted...
Deport illegals and secure border
Lower taxes
Less likely to ban guns

Those are my top issues. If you like abortion or other lefty issues then vote for Harris I guess...

I don't like politicians who are actively trying to legislate friends of mine out of existence but fuck them I guess amirite?

No spine to even try to defend the bigotry, intolerance and hatred of the Republican party. Why are all you Trumpeteers the same? You can't handle facing the facts of what your Trump support actually means so you just pretend that the bigotry and hatred doesn't exist and plug your fingers in your ears when it's brought up.
RamboCell29 posted...
Tbh I supported DeSantis in the primary,
Lmao. Imagine thinking this is a point in your favor in any fucking way whatsoever.

But alas, I am forced to pick between a flawed candidate with decent policy and Kamala with subpar policy.
"DUUUURRRR I have a concept of a plan after 9 years DUUUUUURRRRR."

So I pick the flawed candidate with decent policy and get to hope for better options in 2028.
Cool. Still supporting the criminal traitor to America in literal 2024. Why don't you let me know some of your typical conservative views?

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