Russia proposed ban on Child-Free Lifestyle. This what far right extremists want

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tl;dr if you are determined to be a person who rejects having kids you have to pay a hefty fine

why?
1.need soldiers
2.need workers

those who are not uber wealthy are becoming human capital to the far right

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-proposes-ban-child-free-lifestyle-rcna172616

Russians who promote 'child-free movement' could soon face hefty fine

Vyacheslav Volodin, the speaker of the lower house of parliament and an ally of President Vladimir Putin, said a new bill would tackle the ideology of childlessness.

Russias fight against the West and its values has taken aim this week at an ideology that the Kremlin and its allies say threatens the countrys very foundations: people not wanting to have children.
Lawmakers have proposed a ban on propaganda of conscious refusal to bear children, Vyacheslav Volodin, the speaker of the lower house of parliament and an ally of President Vladimir Putin, said in a post on Telegram on Tuesday.
It is the latest effort by authorities to combat the demographic strain of falling birth rates, exacerbated by the war in Ukraine, which the Kremlin says could threaten the countrys long-term outlook. In July, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov called Russias d eclining birth rate catastrophic for the future of the nation.
The issues at the heart of it are not limited to Russia indeed they have emerged as flashpoints in the U.S. presidential election but the move this week is just the latest step in a Kremlin campaign to promote what it casts as traditional values as it reshapes Russian society around Putins war and embraces an existential clash with the United States and allies.
The bill would tackle what Volodin said was the promotion of the ideology of childlessness and the childfree movement on the internet, in the media, in movies and even in advertisements, citing what he said where frequent online displays of disrespect for motherhood and fatherhood, aggression toward pregnant women and children, and members of large families.
It will come with heavy fines, he said, of up to $4,300 for individuals and more than $53,000 for legal entities. A close-knit and large family is the basis of a strong state, Volodin added.
Its not clear how exactly this legislation would be enforced if enacted, and what exactly would constitute a violation, but it comes amid an already unprecedented crackdown on dissent more than 2 1/2 years into Russias full-scale invasion of its neighbor.
The bill was formally introduced in the State Duma, Russias lower house of parliament, on Wednesday, possibly signaling the Kremlins intention to move quickly on it. But not everyone is convinced its a good idea.
I view this bill extremely negatively from all points of view, as a lawyer, as a feminist and as a woman, said Dariana Gryaznova, a Russian lawyer and expert in womens rights who currently lives abroad. Bills like these are essentially directed at curbing the freedom of speech, womens reproductive rights and their freedom to choose.
Olga, an English teacher in Moscow, told NBC News she does not plan to have children, but is also not rejecting that possibility outright.
Olga, who did not want to give her last name for privacy reasons, said the proposed bill doesnt change her plans. Still, it makes her feel anxiety and slight indignation, she said.
Its obvious they are trying to fix the birth rate by all means possible, and thats what causes a lot of worries, because it will be harder for a woman to make her choices, Olga, 39, added. In this respect, this is nothing new for Russian women unfortunately.
The proposed legislation carries echoes of the Russian Supreme Courts ban on the so-called international LGBTQ+ movement in late 2023, which raised the risk of arrests and prosecutions for the already embattled LGBTQ+ community in the country.
Can't have kids cuz no money, solution? charge people money for not having kids
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Russia will be the looking glass of what the US will become if we let elements like J.D. Vance gain power

if you thought taking away bodily autonomy of women in regards to abortion is the endgame you are very wrong

the next step is to force not just women but men to have kids

wealthy rulers don't like declining birth rates as it takes away power and money. the more poor masses there are, the easier it is to replace someone
This is absolutely something the right in the US would push given the opportunity.
Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed
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This fucking awful, but this is a proposed free speech issue not them taxing/fining childless people (yet)
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remember in the 50s when the government actually PAID you to get married and have kids? I wonder what that kind of stimulus would do to the generation?

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Huh, had no idea this was such a thing in Russia.

No wonder all the righties here push the fuck out of it as well.
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SerperiorThanU posted...
Funny how the two authoritarian superpower allies had the exact opposite policies for policing having children.

Umm no. China one child policy was from the 80s which was 44 years ago.

It was ended in 2016

Starting on January 1, 2016, all Chinese couples are allowed to have two children .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-child_policy


The one-child policy (Chinese: ; pinyin: y hi zhngc ) was a population planning initiative in China implemented between 1979 and 2015 to curb the country's population growth by restricting many families to a single child. The program had wide-ranging social, cultural, economic, and demographic effects, although the contribution of one-child restrictions to the broader program has been the subject of controversy.[1] Its efficacy in reducing birth rates and defensibility from a human rights perspective have been subjects of controversy.[2]


CE_gonna_CE posted...
Huh, had no idea this was such a thing in Russia.

No wonder all the righties here push the fuck out of it as well.

also breeders like Elon want this

so not only do we have far right people vying for power in the government, but stupid billionaires like Elon are pushing for this and support them
The one child policy is ended but there's still societal pressure not to have more.
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WingsOfGood posted...
also breeders like Elon want this

so not only do we have far right people vying for power in the government, but stupid billionaires like Elon are pushing for this and support them
Kamalas child tax credit is one of the biggest things she started pushing and is widely approved of
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Will they get government assigned spouses?
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Fascists have always pushed pronatalism.

Hitler enacted policies to "fight the empty cradle". Mussolini also co-opted the term "demography is destiny" . The whole great replacement theory is based on demographic fear. For them, with numbers, you can crush all adversaries.
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Only a matter of time till they authorize officially recognized rape gangs for the sake of reproduction.
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ScazarMeltex posted...
This is absolutely something the right in the US would push given the opportunity.
It is where they get there marching orders so im sure your right.
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Alteres posted...
Kamalas child tax credit is one of the biggest things she started pushing and is widely approved of

There is a HUGE difference between "forcing people to have babies or else they have to pay a massive fine" and "If you feel like having children, we will cover a portion of your costs for raising those children by easing your tax burden a little bit".

One actively punishes people for not living a certain way, one attempts to elevate people to a position where they won't end up crippled for wanting to have kids.
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This is literally Nazi Gsrmany shit.

Let no one ever tell you that Russia isn't a fascist state.
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Aysander posted...
There is a HUGE difference between "forcing people to have babies or else they have to pay a massive fine" and "If you feel like having children, we will cover a portion of your costs for raising those children by easing your tax burden a little bit".

One actively punishes people for not living a certain way, one attempts to elevate people to a position where they won't end up crippled for wanting to have kids.
did you read the topic?

try starting at the beginning
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Alteres posted...
Kamalas child tax credit is one of the biggest things she started pushing and is widely approved of
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Umbreon posted...
Russia needs more future dead soldiers.

either that means they will be using child soldiers, or waiting at least 16-18 years for the next push of this war.

sadly either is possible

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CE_gonna_CE posted...
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Christs sake, I hate russia, but every part of this topic is literally wrong, dont you ever want to know what is actually going on?
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Wouldn't it be easier to, I don't know, stop sending people into an imperial war to die?
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YellowSUV posted...
Wouldn't it be easier to, I don't know, stop sending people into an imperial war to die?


Yeah but then how would old man Putin have his 'legacy'?
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CE_gonna_CE posted...
Tag checks out
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lmao. +1
Putin delenda est
So they decided to throw a huge portion of their young, strong men into a pointless war, and now they're taking it out on their citizens even more.

This is not a winning formula.
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CE_gonna_CE posted...
Huh, had no idea this was such a thing in Russia.

No wonder all the righties here push the fuck out of it as well.

Russia has suffered a major demographic crisis going on for basically a century+ now.

Losing over 30 million people, a good chunk being men, between two World Wars (Not to even account fro how the dissolution of the Soviet Union fucked with demographics) has led to really fucked up demographics both in gender split (86 men per 100 women) and age (vast majority is 30+ and many women are close to or entirely out of child rearing age).

One of the (proposed) reasons for why Putin wants Ukraine is to try to stop gap the untenable demographics of Russia's aging population.

It isn't just an ideological difference for Russia. It is almost literally life and death for the country.

It is a valid concern in Western countries, declining birth rates and unbalanced demographics, but Russia's economy is not nearly as secure as most Western countries.
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Alteres posted...
did you read the topic?

try starting at the beginning

What are you talking about?
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