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Euripides
09/17/2024
10:08 AM
#1
Here's the theory:

The Heritage Foundation (and it's ilk) REALLY like JD Vance and think he is the perfect encapsulation of Project 2025 and the Christo-Fascist movement. As such, their plan (if Trump wins) is to immediately invoke the 25th Amendment, declaring Trump unfit for office. They already have people in place for this to happen (Mike Johnson, etc.)

The result: President Vance/Vice President Johnson

Well?
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Euripides
09/17/2024
10:12 AM
#2
I'm giving it a solid 7. I think it could happen, but I don't know that the GOP is organized well enough to pull it off.

It does explain, however, why it's rumored that Trump wants to replace Vance with RFK Jr....
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Trelve
09/17/2024
10:15 AM
#3
Without Trump there is no party. So I doubt it.
ai123
09/17/2024
10:16 AM
#4
If it were ever true, Vance is such a catastrophe as a public figure that they must be having second thoughts.

Lazy old Trump would be still a better vehicle for them. And his cult won't stand for a Brutus act.
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Euripides
09/17/2024
10:17 AM
#5
ai123 posted...
If it were ever true, Vance is such a catastrophe as a public figure that they must be having second thoughts.

He'd be Dubya to Mike Johnson's Dick Cheney

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ssjevot
09/17/2024
10:17 AM
#6
Trelve posted...
Without Trump there is no party. So I doubt it.

This. It's a personality cult. Vance is not charismatic enough to take over from Trump. If they want any change at getting an authoritarian regime up and running that Vance could then later take over, they need Trump around for a long time.
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LeCh0nk
09/17/2024
10:18 AM
#7
If they picked literally anyone but Vance it'd be believable
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darkace77450
09/17/2024
10:19 AM
#8
It was reported by the NYT in 2016 that Trump Jr. asked John Kasich to be his father's VP, telling him he'd be in charge of both foreign and domestic policy. When asked by Kasich what Trump would be doing, Jr responded with "making America great again."

If true - and I believe it is - it demonstrates how little Trump cares about anything other than grifting people out of their money and playing golf. There's no reason Vance couldn't enact Project 2025 while Trump dicked around as usual.
PeteyParker
09/17/2024
10:21 AM
#9
Immediate 25th Amendment makes no sense unless they have the mechanisms in place to also deal with a pissed off Trump base in addition to the unrest that will already be happening from everyone else. It makes much more sense for Trump to "pass peacefully" and for the base to rally around Vance during a period of mourning because "that's what Trump would have wanted".
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Euripides
09/17/2024
10:27 AM
#11
PeteyParker posted...
Immediate 25th Amendment makes no sense unless they have the mechanisms in place to also deal with a pissed off Trump base in addition to the unrest that will already be happening from everyone else. It makes much more sense for Trump to "pass peacefully" and for the base to rally around Vance during a period of mourning because "that's what Trump would have wanted".

Maybe not immediate, but the first time he does something that they can point to as "senile" or "dementia"
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ClayGuida
09/17/2024
10:31 AM
#12
3/10. If Trump isn't there, the Republican party has little support. Trump is the face of the party, not Mike Johnson, not JD Vance, not Marjorie Taylor Greene. Without Trump, none of them matter.
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Vegy
09/17/2024
10:35 AM
#13
Dey wouldn't DARE betray trump
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Euripides
09/17/2024
10:57 AM
#14
But if they oust Trump early, they'll have 3+ years to sell the MAGAs on a new leader
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ClayGuida
09/17/2024
10:58 AM
#15
Euripides posted...
But if they oust Trump early, they'll have 3+ years to sell the MAGAs on a new leader
If they oust Trump, they'll be called socialist, fascist, communist, marxists until the next election.
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Euripides
09/17/2024
11:01 AM
#16
ClayGuida posted...
If they oust Trump, they'll be called socialist, fascist, communist, marxists until the next election.
There wouldn't be a "next election"
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Trelve
09/17/2024
11:03 AM
#17
Euripides posted...
But if they oust Trump early, they'll have 3+ years to sell the MAGAs on a new leader
Without Trump, there is no MAGA. He's the face of the movement, with him gone it'll fall apart.
el_cheato
09/17/2024
11:04 AM
#18
I rate it a "they'll try this if it looks like it'll work but won't push the envelope too hard if it doesn't" out of 10.
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ClayGuida
09/17/2024
11:12 AM
#19
Euripides posted...
There wouldn't be a "next election"
There would if there's no backing for this current regime of JD Vance and Mike Johnson that Republicans did not ask for.

Remember, the fascist shit only works because nearly 100% of Republicans would be okay with Trump being President for life.
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FL81
09/17/2024
02:03 PM
#20
Euripides posted...
to immediately invoke the 25th Amendment, declaring Trump unfit for office.
this is absolutely not happening
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Azn_Psycho
09/17/2024
02:08 PM
#21
Trelve posted...
Without Trump there is no party. So I doubt it.

No need for a party if Dumbfuck gets in. It would show they have the pieces to rig already or wouldn't need him anymore as they are in position to rig it forever.

He served his main purpose. His only role would be to keep it the Trumpers as quiet as possible, but it isn't necessary.
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Cartoon_Quoter
09/17/2024
02:09 PM
#22
Why 25 him and risk pissing off pretty much everyone? Just poison his hamberders.
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Sansoldier
09/17/2024
02:11 PM
#23
I voted 4. I do think they consider the 25th amendment, but are more willing to let things play out. They'd probably want a 4 year trump presidency that leads into an 8 year Vance presidency, but there's always the possibility of Trump getting impeached or disabled.
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