How bad does you life have to be to do meth.

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I understand people use stuff to escape things. But meth, like how could they think that would be a good idea. And honestly I say this not judge..but just think how bad ppl must have it.
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Addiction is a hell of a conundrum. It could come from trauma or bad social circles. Escaping the hell of ones reality can be pretty enticing.
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I had a friend who got into meth when he was trying to quit drinking. Sad situation all around, addiction is a terrible thing
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People do it to party. Then they don't wanna stop partying. It's the same with a lot of drugs.
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I knew a dr with a degree from Yale, and a PA (still making 150k+), that were both meth addicts.

The dr was working as a barista at a Barnes and Noble Starbucks trying to get his license back.

you never know how it goes, or what exactly is eating away at a persons mind

*they were both sex addicts tho, so there might have been some cross addiction with their drug of choice
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pedro45 posted...
People do it to party. Then they don't wanna stop partying. It's the same with a lot of drugs.
To add to this, due to the nature of illegal drugs being unregulated a lot of times people partying might not really know what drugs theyre taking

Ive gone to Bonnaroo and there are always a bunch of people walking around selling powder in a baggie and theyll say its MDMA or whatever but when people test the stuff its actually just straight meth or cut with fentanyl or any number of other impurities

Obviously a lot of people do intentionally try meth but since the messaging around all illegal drugs is more focused on just telling you not to do it rather than harm reduction, maybe people try something, think its not so bad, try something else, and then eventually theyre addicted
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I had a patient once who was paraplegic from excessive drug abuse (yes that can happen) and even after being paralyzed they still didnt see that as a wake up call to get clean. I do feel bad for them but empathy can only go so far. At the end of the day you cant help them if they dont want to help themselves. You can give them the tools, but its ultimately up to them.
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i dont have a bad life at all and i really enjoy getting high. it's not always about escapism or anything, some people just really like having a buzz.

it's really easy to think "it wont happen to me" or "i can use this just once and not get hooked" which turns into "its been a month, i can use this again" which turns into "just once a week is fine right?" then etc etc. this is why i can't try certain drugs even once.

if you're not familiar with 'SpontaneousH' from reddit, that's the classic tale. https://www.reddit.com/r/BORUpdates/comments/16223aj/updatesaga_the_emotional_saga_of_spontaneoush_the/
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
i dont have a bad life at all and i really enjoy getting high
Yeah, but meth?
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bsp77 posted...
Yeah, but meth?

shrug. back in my younger days i tried crack one night. it was scary how good it felt and im so thankful i never ventured back.
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
shrug. back in my younger days i tried crack one night. it was scary how good it felt and im so thankful i never ventured back.
That's what my brother said about heroin. I don't think he ever touched it again
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
shrug. back in my younger days i tried crack one night. it was scary how good it felt and im so thankful i never ventured back.
This is obviously my opinion, but I can see being curious about alcohol, Marijuana, shrooms, MDMA and even cocaine. But taking shit like meth and heroin just seems flat out stupid to me.
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bsp77 posted...
This is obviously my opinion, but I can see being curious about alcohol, Marijuana, shrooms, MDMA and even cocaine. But taking shit like meth and heroin just seems flat out stupid to me.

i mean, you're not wrong but hubris is a helluva drug. i wager the vast majority of people who are hooked on opiates or meth didn't use the first time with the intention of becoming an addict.
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Not.

Meth is one of the easiest drugs to fall into.
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BrohammedAli posted...
Not.

Meth is one of the easiest drugs to fall into.
But how? It is widely known how awful it is.

And yes, alcohol and cigarettes aren't good either but the order of magnitude is astronomical.
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I can see why someone who has their life together, a good home life, a good work life, and kinda everything going for them would try it out if they were offered

That being said I understand thats not the demographic that usually goes for it
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ShadowMan033 posted...
I can see why someone who has their life together, a good home life, a good work life, and kinda everything going for them would try it out if they were offered
But see, this is what I am trying to understand. Why? It is obviously an incredibly stupid thing to do. Now, I do stupid things too, as most people do, but this one just makes zero sense to me, and I have certainly led a hedonistic lifestyle at times, so I am no prude.
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bsp77 posted...
But how? It is widely known how awful it is.

And yes, alcohol and cigarettes aren't good either but the order of magnitude is astronomical.
Because everyone thinks theyre invincible. It could never happen to me. Thats just human nature

It kinda reminds me of this quote from I think a WW2 vet. Im paraphrasing but it was something like when I first deployed I knew I wouldnt die because I was me. Then my friends died and I realized I very well might die
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bsp77 posted...
But how? It is widely known how awful it is.

And yes, alcohol and cigarettes aren't good either but the order of magnitude is astronomical.

because doctors prescribe a variation of it in abundance.

Like, adderall isnt that different than meth. And unlike adderall, meth doesnt have shortages that keep you from getting your fix.

Its an incredibly powerful and effective drug that allows people to function past the exhaustion point of their bodies.

No one takes any drug to get addicted; we all think were better than chemicals and most of the time were getting prescribed versions of the stuff without the tools to wean ourselves off of it.

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bsp77 posted...
But how? It is widely known how awful it is.

And yes, alcohol and cigarettes aren't good either but the order of magnitude is astronomical.
Consider that

bsp77 posted...
Marijuana, shrooms, MDMA and even cocaine.
are schedule I federally illegal drugs but

TheGoldenEel posted...
meth is a schedule 2 drug that can be prescribed by doctors to children

this isnt to say meth is not bad, rather the messaging around drugs is mixed at best
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bsp77 posted...
But how? It is widely known how awful it is.

And yes, alcohol and cigarettes aren't good either but the order of magnitude is astronoclient.

This why I made my post. In my line of work I see people mess up their lives with so much. Today it was meth and it just hit me like of all the things. Like I can see alcohol it is sold everywhere it is on TV ads with LL cool J. For the love of heaven it even sponsors COLLEGE sports. Like it had but I see ppl not getting that but meth.

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I can't even imagine how bad the actually bad drugs are
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Okay, good responses everyone. It would still always be a "fuck no" for me, but I can kinda get what y'all are saying.

And I have been prescribed Adderall in the past. My ex wife pretty much forced me. Fuck her.
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cjsdowg posted...
This why I made my post. In my line of work I see people mess up their lives with so much. Today it was meth and it just hit me like of all the things. Like I can see alcohol it is sold everywhere it is on TV ads with LL cool J. For the love of heaven it even sponsors COLLEGE sports. Like it had but I see ppl not getting that but meth.
I think to a certain degree, the way you're exposed to things makes a difference. Like if you're introduced to meth in a casual setting by people you know and like, and you haven't really been exposed to or know much about the bad side of it, you might be a lot more willing to try it.
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TheGoldenEel posted...
To add to this, due to the nature of illegal drugs being unregulated a lot of times people partying might not really know what drugs theyre taking

Ive gone to Bonnaroo and there are always a bunch of people walking around selling powder in a baggie and theyll say its MDMA or whatever but when people test the stuff its actually just straight meth or cut with fentanyl or any number of other impurities

Obviously a lot of people do intentionally try meth but since the messaging around all illegal drugs is more focused on just telling you not to do it rather than harm reduction, maybe people try something, think its not so bad, try something else, and then eventually theyre addicted
I went to Bonnaroo in 2012 and never had an issue with laced drugs. This was before the rise of fentanyl tho. Me and my group always had test kits on us and so should any festival goers.
He's all alone through the day and night.
People always want to shit on addicts, but like.sometimes that shit just happens.

Addiction is a disease. Your genetics, your upbringing and your environment have just as much if not more sway on whether or not you form an addiction than any individual action you take.

which is why takes like empathy only goes so far make me wanna throw up in my mouth
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BrohammedAli posted...
which is why takes like empathy only goes so far make me wanna throw up in my mouth
And I hope you know that wasn't my intention. I was only trying to understand.
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I've tried most drugs, but stuff cooked up from a bunch of chemicals in some moron's shed isn't for me. These days if I can't grow it myself I'm not doing it.
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I don't think its really like that, OP.

I have to be careful about what I say because this is gamefaqs, so I'll try and be vague and say...I hear that people who have tried meth will say it's the most amazing high ever, but the comedown is so bad and so long lasting that all you want to do to get over it is...more meth.

Like I knew this one guy, we'll call him Brain. He tried it once time and had the best night of his life, followed by the worst week of his life. And all that time all he wanted to do was more meth, and the only reason he didn't was because he saw the trap coming.

I can see how people get trapped in it.
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I think it's less how bad your life is and more just falling into the trap of trying it if a "friend" offers.

I'm pretty liberal when it comes to drugs, but there is some shit you do not try. Harm reduction through edumacation, yo. >_>
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BrohammedAli posted...
People always want to shit on addicts, but like.sometimes that shit just happens.

Addiction is a disease. Your genetics, your upbringing and your environment have just as much if not more sway on whether or not you form an addiction than any individual action you take.

which is why takes like empathy only goes so far make me wanna throw up in my mouth
Im sorry if my comment upset you. Thats not sarcasm. I genuinely apologize. But like I said, you cant force someone to get clean. They have to want it, and if they dont then theres nothing you can do.

I do feel empathy, but its not realistic to shed a tear for every single one. You just do the best you can to help who you can

In healthcare you cannot afford to get emotionally invested in every single patient who comes in. That will mentally destroy you. That might sound callous but its true
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I knew a guy in the Navy who became a bad heroin addict. He took a bad fall on the ship and broke his back and all his ribs. He was on high doses of morphine for many months to try to control the pain. He spiraled from there and long story short the only thing that could make him feel good was heroin.

He ended up a junkie and prior to that he never seemed to have an addictive personally when it came to stuff like alcohol or say stuff like weed or acid. Seemed like pretty much every guy I knew in the military.

But the prolonged high doses of morphine fucked him up. He basically became a doctor prescribed junkie so there are cases of people who spiral that werent doing it to party or have fun and then couldnt control it. Had he not had that extreme injury the guy probably stays normal his whole life.

The good news he eventually did recover but it took years and sadly he never got the help while in the military even though they basically caused it. Kicked him out as a junkie and he had to struggle to get clean as a civilian. Always left a sour taste in my mouth how they handled that.

Anyway hes fine now, but he was fucked up for many years.
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bsp77 posted...
Yeah, but meth?

My life is good and I like getting high too. As I've gotten older I've limited it to weed but when I was younger I'd do whatever came my way. The only reason I stopped doing anything hard is because now I feel like shit for a few days afterwards and to me that's not worth a day of fun anymore.
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It doesn't have to be bad at all. Some people are trying it for escapism, sure, but many come about it through social occasions and/or the normal business goings-on of the black market drug trade; curiosity, boredom, whatever. Then addiction grabs hold of some folks and it becomes the bad life they didn't have before they started.
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Villain_S_Fiend posted...
It doesn't have to be bad at all. Some people are trying it for escapism, sure, but many come about it through social occasions and/or the normal business goings-on of the black market drug trade; curiosity, boredom, whatever. Then addiction grabs hold of some folks and it becomes the bad life they didn't have before they started.

It's just to me so many other drugs out there besides something someone cooked up in their trailer park, with Drano.

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I remember trying it once when I was young and dumb er . A couple of friends were smoking it and offered me some.

I waited a few minutes before saying "This shit is lame. Anyone got some weed?" Never touched it again.
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Your life doesn't have to necessarily be bad to try it, but it will definitely start to go downhill if you do. Look at Fergie. She was leading her own girl group when she got into meth, hiding it from her band mates. It eventually got to the point where she hid in a church saying the government was trying to kill her.
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Obviously a lot of people do intentionally try meth but since the messaging around all illegal drugs is more focused on just telling you not to do it rather than harm reduction, maybe people try something, think its not so bad, try something else, and then eventually theyre addicted
Yeah, this is 100% a factor. Expanding on my post above, I'd been smoking weed for a while at that point and figured "oh, well I was told that was really bad, but it's been fine, seems all of that was a lie". I'm very lucky in hindsight that I just straight up didn't like meth.
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