I keep reading Caitlin Clark as Caitlin Stark and kept wondering why people were hating on a fictional character.MOTHER OF WOLVES!
https://www.si.com/onsi/womens-fastbreak/wnba/rebecca-lobo-addresses-viral-caitlin-clark-flagrant-foul-concerns-01j6qakq3f8sIts so one sided though lmao. Again, clark just plays ball. The sky committing an average of one flagrant a game on clark has nothing to do with what the media wants, its pure pettiness and jealousy.
Like that video of Monica I brought up before.
EDIT: I won't deny that the Sky go at Clark hard but that's basically rivalry shit at this point which is exactly what the media wanted anyway. Reese vs. Clark / Sky vs. Fever.
Or it's possible that they want to "take her out" because she's real good on the court and doing so would help them win the game?Theres no WNBA bountygate on great players, especially not over blah regular season games lol.
I mean, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this. Because I think most of the hard fouls, etc. she takes are because she's a great player and it makes sense to target said player if you're on the other team. Are they supposed to stand out of the way and just let her make threes for the SportsCenter reel?
Its so one sided though lmao. Again, clark just plays ball. The sky committing an average of one flagrant a game on clark has nothing to do with what the media wants, its pure pettiness and jealousy.
Clarks treatment comes from petty jealousy that I understood and even agreed with at first, but its embarrassing now. And of course the usual suspects wasted no time milking this dysfunction in the summer with no other sports going on.
I'll admit that the Sky have a chip on their shoulder regarding Clark but that's a far cry from the entire WNBA.
When I was talking about "taking her out" I just meant that teams will obviously play her harder which will naturally result in more fouls in general, not that there was some kind of bounty out on her (which some people probably believe anyway). I'm just ready for it to all go away and have people talk about basketball instead of drama. It was promising during the last few years of college women's ball because they were talking about multiple teams, players, and just the quality of play in general. Now it's all Clark this, petty that, and it's insufferable. It's eroded most of my interest in following the WNBA. It's just a miserable discussion on how apparently everyone is nasty and hateful.
This is my first time learning Caitlin Clark plays for my state >_>
Clark just got her second triple double. She's the only WNBA rookie to ever get a triple double. I am excited to see what she does next.Out of 8,000+ games played, there are only 35 triple doubles in WNBA history. Never one done by a rookie before this year. She's already got two and was very close to getting multiple others this year. She's already 4th all time in triple doubles lol
Bruh have you seen her foul percentages?? This is unreal how youre acting like players dont treat her differently.
The girl has 17% of all flagrants in the league committed against her.
this topic is definitely from the perspective of men, primarily white men who dont actually watch or follow womens basketball.
People dislike Caitlin because shes a elite trash talker and whiner/complainer who gets coddled by the predominantly, white male media engine, which of course isnt her fault but still.
She talks shit, is a dick to teammates and complains about calls but anyone who complains about her or dislikes her is attacked by the media and told they should bend the knee.
Aja Wilson is literally having arguably the greatest wnba season of all time, and while educated people are discussing if shes the unanimous MVP, certain media engines are arguing if Caitlin deserves mvp over her.
its also hilarious because its even more talented womens college players that are going relatively unheard right now
Ah yes. Stephen A Smith and Charles Barkley, part of that white male media engine. Almost everything you said is horseshit
this topic is definitely from the perspective of men, primarily white men who dont actually watch or follow womens basketball.You can dislike a player but still give them legitimate credit that they deserve. Swoopes couldnt even do that. You cannot possibly leave Clark out of a conversation about how well the Fever have been doing. It is absolutely nonsensical to say otherwise.
People dislike Caitlin because shes a elite trash talker and whiner/complainer who gets coddled by the predominantly, white male media engine, which of course isnt her fault but still.
She talks shit, is a dick to teammates and complains about calls but anyone who complains about her or dislikes her is attacked by the media and told they should bend the knee.
Aja Wilson is literally having arguably the greatest wnba season of all time, and while educated people are discussing if shes the unanimous MVP, certain media engines are arguing if Caitlin deserves mvp over her.
its also hilarious because its even more talented womens college players that are going relatively unheard right now
There have bee 5 flagrants on her. You have to put it in perspective. There just aren't really that many flagrants called in the league as a whole. The % is accurate, but the raw numbers are also important. This season Clark has been flagrantly fouled 5 times (32 games). In 2023 Satou Sabally was flagrantly fouled 4 times (38 gms ). In 22 Aerial Powers was flagrantly fouled 5 times (35 gms).80% of those flagrants against her have come from one team though. Its kind of goofy to act like the Sky isnt trying to fuck her up for motives that arent trying to win the game
You can dislike a player but still give them legitimate credit that they deserve. Swoopes couldnt even do that. You cannot possibly leave Clark out of a conversation about how well the Fever have been doing. It is absolutely nonsensical to say otherwise.
Shes been breaking records all season as a rookie and been victim of some of the gnarliest flagrant fouls this season. If clark of all people talks shit and complains too much for you then you must unironically dislike most of the wnba
I never said people complain about that. I said people complain about how she gets away with it.Gets away with it how exactly? Do you expect a professional athlete to be punished for trash talk? Thats how the game works
Gets away with it how exactly? Do you expect a professional athlete to be punished for trash talk? Thats how the game works
If you can back up your shit talk then i dont see the problem. Literally every top player does that. Kind of wack to suggest that she talks the most shit anyway tho. Her interviews are usually very respectful of other players
I wonder how gamepimp would feel about Caitlin if her name was Kate'lynn and she had a different skin color
Aja Wilson is literally having arguably the greatest wnba season of all time, and while educated people are discussing if shes the unanimous MVP, certain media engines are arguing if Caitlin deserves mvp over her.
its also hilarious because its even more talented womens college players that are going relatively unheard right now
i swear its like you guys read half of what I postyoure just being disingenuous with this. Angel Reese still hates Clark and does shit to stoke those flames today. She literally cheered on a blatant dirty hit on Clark before the play had even started.
by get away with it i mean coddled by the media.
her bad attitude, trash talk and over all complaining are ignored by the larger fandom/media.
but any criticism of her is reticuled
Angel Reese for example is still bullied by random people you wouldnt even call wnba fans to this day because she talked shit to Caitlin almost 3 years ago.
I think people who dont care about such things are just tired of having news media shove everything into their feed.IMO, even if you're not a sports person you should still see this as a major win for women in general. They'll get the respect and money they deserve but unfortunately they're are these hindrances and they need to be called out.
No matter what you search, youre going to get articles about Caitlin Clark or Taylor Swift.
youre just being disingenuous with this. Angel Reese still hates Clark and does shit to stoke those flames today. She literally cheered on a blatant dirty hit on Clark before the play had even started.
You're literally doing the same thing you claim the media is doing but in reverse. You seriously think the bulk of Reeses criticism is because of comments 3 years ago? Bruh.
And again, how does Clark have a bad attitude and complain too much? She respects other players in interviews when the same hasnt been done for her by many. What does she do that you want to see her criticized for so bad?
dude their have been dozens of articles and videos of Clark complaining about calls pouting at her teammates mistakes, trash talking players on the court etc etc.are you for real rn dude. The Fever WAS really bad and making horrible mistakes at the start of the season. No shit she was frustrated, the early season games were absolutely terrible. You clearly feel some of type of way about considering you keep bringing up that shes not being criticized enough to you.
i personally dont care if shes criticized for it (out side of her on the court body language with her teammates thats an issue that needs to be fixed)
im more pointing out these are legit things that get swept under the rug.
The entire shit between Angel and Clark started because Clark talked shit to angels friends on SC and Angel responded.
and while yes things have been egged on since then, that initial reaction from fans has never stopped
I think I'd have a bad attitude too if I went to play pro basketball and everyone started to hard foul me and discount how good I am.
Did MJ have a "bad attitude"? Fuck yeah he did.
MJ would be looked at completely different in todays media. Especially after assaulting his teams mates.You really gonna act like Taylor swift is hated on because of racial lines now lmao
Someone just compared her to Taylor swift and its very accurate because they both get that fragile innocent white woman whos hated and bullied because theyre successful angle so they need to be protected.
The part that bothers me the most about Swoops' criticism is that it was built on lies that Swoops told to make her point.Spot on
Examples:
After Clark's senior season, after she broke the NCAA career points record, Swoops claimed that she only did it becasue she played more games than Kelsey Plum did, when in fact Clark did it in thirteen LESS games than Plum did.
Or how she took "40 shots a game to do it" despite averaging 22 shot attempts her senior season and under 20 shots the 3 seasons prior.
Or how she claimed she dominated her senior season because she was "older" than everyone else because she pushed the start of her college career because of Covid, despite the fact that she was a HS senior in 2019-20, and a freshman at Iowa in 2020-21
Criticize all you want, but don't base it on a pile of lies.
are you for real rn dude. The Fever WAS really bad and making horrible mistakes at the start of the season. No shit she was frustrated. You clearly feel some of type of way about considering you keep bringing up that shes not being criticized enough to you.
And once again, every single player in this league talks shit. You specially dislike Clark for it for some reason.
I also dont care what started Reese and Clarks beef, you cant cheer on an absurd flagrant and expect to not get shit for it.
You really gonna act like Taylor swift is hated on because of racial lines now lmao
People who outwardly hate taylor swift yet cant stop talking about her are usually chuds.
Pouting on the court cause your team mates make mistakes is never acceptable dude what are we talking aboutbruh shes not the white savior holy shit. She cant control that shes white.
depsite what you say thats the one thing Ive been critical of her for.
Everything else Ive been critical of is the way the media is propping her as the white savior to the wnba that the players need to bend the knee so she can save them and the leauge. Thats not her own doing thats the media.
as far as Im aware of Caitlin doesnt even play into that aspect like Taylor swift does
were being obtuse if were ignoring the great white hope, damsel in distress roles TV has given her.Oof. At least you admit your racial bias, I guess
Oof. At least you admit your racial bias, I guess
A gamer pimp is tone policing a woman. Yucky.
I havent noticed Caitlin being an otherworldly trash talker or bad body language. She doesnt do even 1% of what Taurasi has done like every game of her life. Maybe I missed it Im not locked in.
bruh shes not the white savior holy shit. She cant control that shes white.
Shes the quite literally the best thing the league has going for it money wise. the WNBA has unironically never been this mainstream until Clark, and you cannot deny that. The league needed this and her being white is not the reason shes popular. I swear yall dont want the league to actually succeed when i see shit like this
She just happened to be white. Youre downplaying how good she is for the league because shes white.
you where literally just calling every woman who doesnt like Clark jealousAny WNBA player or former player, yes. That's undeniable. Any non-jealous person would love her for being largely responsible for their industry's larger TV contracts and the tripling/quadrupling of their salary in the next couple years
you dont think youre playing into this damsel in distress narrative.If there's any "damsel in distress" narrative, it's the WNBA itself. They were single handedly brought into relevancy by Caitlin Clark
Any WNBA player or former player, yes. That's undeniable. Any non-jealous person would love her for being largely responsible for their industry's larger TV contracts and the tripling/quadrupling of their salary in the next couple years
If there's any "damsel in distress" narrative, it's the WNBA itself. They were single handedly brought into relevancy by Caitlin Clark
She's the one doing the saving, much to the chagrin of racists such as yourself. She doesn't need saving
Anytime you get a star it grows the game and everyone benefits.But she has the "wrong" skin color which upsets some people. Some of which are posting in this topic
To suggest Caitlin Clark should have been left off the Olympic team is ridiculous. She is having the kind of season she is having without being surrounded with the best players in the game.
You put her with other Olympic quality ballers? She belongs there.
To me it feels like some people want her to "pay her dues" or something. Like she has to prove she belongs in the league and in the conversation around being with the best players in the league. I get playing hard, I get fouling to try and get her off her game and in her head. It happens to the best players of all time.
Not saying she is MJ levels of greatness, but I don't recall very many PLAYERS, even in MJ's early years, discounting how good he was. They would talk shit like most athletes do, but they were not discounting his natural skill and ability.
Feels like Clark is being targeted rather than being celebrated. To me, if someone in the leagues takes off and brings more attention to it, EVERYONE benefits. I'm not saying they have to fucking kiss her feet or some shit, but recognize that the WNBA has grown be leaps and bounds this year. Bird and Magic did it, MJ did it, Shaq did it, LeBron did it. Anytime you get a star it grows the game and everyone benefits.
But she has the "wrong" skin color which upsets some people. Some of which are posting in this topic
you should sit this conversation out.You should stop caring about other people's skin color, but it is what it is
its too advanced for you.
you where literally just calling every woman who doesnt like Clark jealous and you dont think youre playing into this damsel in distress narrative.please point out where i said you hate her in this last post. You clearly have some bias against her, but i didnt say that at all right there. Youre calling her a white savior damsel in distress, which is just wtf tier.
you missed it.
are you intentionally missing my point ?
I have never said Caitlin wanted or welcomed any of this and its why outside of her bad habits as a team mate I dont have an issue with her.
Ive repeatedly pointed to the media as the culprit behind this. And you keep going oh you hate Caitlin. Its weird and it makes me think were having two different conversations
Aja Wilson is having the greatest season in WNBA history and people on the media are arguing that Caitlin should be mvp or that she should be given an Olympic spot off no merit of her own.
This isnt her fault of course
but the media has championed her as something shes not. Some Straight White Girl whos going to save the league that has already had positive momentum for the last 5 years.
Something similar happened to Sue Bird at the start of her career, they made her play the straight white girl next door role for the fans, while she was gay the entire time.
She missed every single Team USA event for the last 2 years and has never played Fiba basketball in an official setting.
There is no merit based reasoning for her to get on the USA team, it was never about talent it was about the fact she hasnt done any of the necessary work.
People think she should skip that while being at best the 7th best player in the leauge is a prime example of the coddling I was talking about.
and she is being targeted, because while youre not saying it, ALOT of people are expecting women to kiss her feet. Thats unfair to her AND to them and of course it causes some resentment to her
you missed it.Tried to give it the benefit of the doubt because I havent seen every game but it seems to be a you thing. Google comes up with almost nothing. Just sexist blurbs from various rag outlets months ago.
You should stop caring about other people's skin color, but it is what it is