The latest Caitlin Clark hater is apparently former WNBA champion Sheryl Swoopes

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Current Events » The latest Caitlin Clark hater is apparently former WNBA champion Sheryl Swoopes
ESPN's Stephan A Smith called out Sheryle Swoopes for not bringing up Caitlin Clark when Swoopes was giving Clark's team Indiana Fever some props.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpivXpHtuj8

And then she fires back him saying she can say whatever she wants on her own platform. SAS responds yet again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9Uz6Xe3X-M

And then SAS calls Swoopes' now former colleague Nancy Lieberman to talk about their recent fall out over Caitlin Clark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn4Zp4hwwPA

Here is Uncle Shannon's take on the situation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V32b0an4log

Sorry lots of long videos. I personally have not gotten through all of this myself but I plan to but if anyone has already caught up with the drama feel free to give your thoughts.
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Clark hate is so stupid.
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Toxic femininity
I think the funny thing about these Caitlin Clark beefs is this is the most many have ever talked about the WNBA. Prior to this WNBA wasn't really debated like other sports do. To use NFL for example people might argue over who the best QB in NFL is right now. Not many cared about the WNBA to have similar arguments until Clark entered. I remember when she got left off the Olympics people cared enough to argue she was better than some of the players that made it.
Hey now.
Pretty weird to hate on someone who made your sport relevant idk
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Clark should have been on the Olympics team. This isn't hindsight, I said it when the rosters were announced and they had ancient Taurasi playing in her sixth Olympics or something. Ironically, back in the day Taurasi herself was selected for Team USA as a rookie, but you know how these people love pulling up the ladder they climbed on.

Taurasi averaged 10 minutes per game and only scored 1 point per game.

However, I'll say the break in the WNBA season has made Clark even more powerful so it was perhaps a blessing in disguise.
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Screams from the haters, got a nice ring to it.
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I don't follow the WNBA. Is there a reason why Clark is hated so much? Is it just resentment over the fact that she's considered their first superstar?
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The Clark hate some people have is absurd. The closest thing I can think of is when people took any reason to hate Lebron James, but it was never like this.
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CRON posted...
I don't follow the WNBA. Is there a reason why Clark is hated so much? Is it just resentment over the fact that she's considered their first superstar?
Toxic femininity and racism

Odd because Jokic is white, is/was the best player in the league for 2-3 years, and yet other players don't throw shade on him or target him with hard fouls nearly as much as Caitlin is targeted

These ladies gotta be better
Turtlemayor333 posted...
However, I'll say the break in the WNBA season has made Clark even more powerful so it was perhaps a blessing in disguise.

She absolutely needed the break. Plus on stacked teams she would have likely had limited playing time so avoiding all that travel, practice, etc is exactly what she needed since she largely had zero break between when the college season ended and the WNBA season began. She was WAY better off not going and I think that while it would have been nice to be selected, it was the right call for her season and her future (imagine the 2028 bump for the WNBA when she plays).
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Kyle1022 posted...
Toxic femininity and racism

Odd because Jokic is white, is/was the best player in the league for 2-3 years, and yet other players don't throw shade on him or target him with hard fouls nearly as much as Caitlin is targeted

These ladies gotta be better
Jokic is like 7 foot Serbian who would kill a mother fucker. Ain't nobody gonna say jack shit about him.
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VeggetaX posted...
Jokic is like 7 foot Serbian who would kill a mother fucker. Ain't nobody gonna say jack shit about him.
Then swap him out for Luka or any other guard-sized white guy who was the league's best player or one of them. Point is,

Kyle1022 posted...
These ladies gotta be better
Swoopes has hated on her for a while. I'm not sure if it's a race thing, a jealousy thing, a little of both, or something else.
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It definitely seems like jealousy across the board with these WNBA ladies.
McSame_as_Bush posted...
Swoopes has hated on her for a while. I'm not sure if it's a race thing, a jealousy thing, a little of both, or something else.

this, she aint the latest
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She could have been remembered like one of the old guard NBA players, who didn't get the recognition they deserved at the time, but still paved the way for the league's explosion in popularity after them. Revered as an OG who made it better for the following generations, and an icon for the league

Instead, she'll just be remembered as a salty old c***
I still can't believe Lieberman and Swoopes literally ended their friendship over Clark LMAO. Like god damn is it that fucking serious? But I think what Lieberman did was wrong. She shouldn't have went on SAS's show and talked that shit about Swoopes no matter what happened because now you're potentially hurting Swoopes' eligibility to make money. I'm just not the type of guy to hurt someone's way of putting food on the table unless I really really hate the person.
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Turtlemayor333 posted...
Clark should have been on the Olympics team. This isn't hindsight, I said it when the rosters were announced and they had ancient Taurasi playing in her sixth Olympics or something. Ironically, back in the day Taurasi herself was selected for Team USA as a rookie, but you know how these people love pulling up the ladder they climbed on.

Taurasi averaged 10 minutes per game and only scored 1 point per game.

However, I'll say the break in the WNBA season has made Clark even more powerful so it was perhaps a blessing in disguise.
She didn't make their practice cycle because she was, you know, playing college basketball.

It doesn't matter how talented players are individually, it still takes time to develop on court chemistry and veterans typically catch on faster..for obvious reasons.

It made complete sense why she didn't make this last team. Hopefully it fuels her to ball out on the next 5.
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Turtlemayor333 posted...
Clark should have been on the Olympics team. This isn't hindsight, I said it when the rosters were announced and they had ancient Taurasi playing in her sixth Olympics or something. Ironically, back in the day Taurasi herself was selected for Team USA as a rookie, but you know how these people love pulling up the ladder they climbed on.

Taurasi averaged 10 minutes per game and only scored 1 point per game.

However, I'll say the break in the WNBA season has made Clark even more powerful so it was perhaps a blessing in disguise.

The roster for the Olympics team was already decided before Clark was ever eligible. They can't just kick someone off the team after they've already been in it.
It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Everyone is so fucking mad that Caitlin Clark saved the WNBA when none of the rest of them could.
Tyranthraxus posted...
The roster for the Olympics team was already decided before Clark was ever eligible. They can't just kick someone off the team after they've already been in it.
Seems like this is exactly the point with both the Oympics and the WNBA - it's a good old girls club, and Clark ain't in it.
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Turtlemayor333 posted...
Seems like this is exactly the point with both the Oympics and the WNBA - it's a good old girls club, and Clark ain't in it.

She's basically Michael Jordan all over again. They gave him some real shit for his first three years. Surprised he didn't rage quit.
It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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ItsChristian posted...
Everyone is so fucking mad that Caitlin Clark saved the WNBA when none of the rest of them could.
That really is how it feels despite all things said, and it's just kind of sad tbh. Here we have a phenomenal player that could force everyone to elevate their game and put bums in seats, and instead let's just shut her out and foul her into the ER so we don't have to deal with her.
There's a time and place for everything... but not now.
This year was the very first year the WNBA brought zero rookies or second-year players to the Olympics. It was only the second time (2012) where the WNBA brought zero rookies to the Olympics

They did this in a year where the rookie class is described as generational. In a year where one of the rookies leads the league in assists. Another rookie leads the league in rebounds. Both have broken several records and are by most metrics the league's two most popular players

Both Clark and Reese deserved to make the Olympics this year. Anyone who says otherwise does not know what they are talking about. They were deliberately left off by the selection committee, who gave poor excuses why they were left off. There are no rules saying that rookies can't play in the Olympics. There was no "eligibility" issue. The league just failed to promote its two biggest stars

https://www.today.com/news/sports/caitlin-clark-paris-olympics-2024-rcna156177
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Swoopes is not the latest hater lol. She was one of the original haters. She's been shit talking for a long time now.
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Kyle1022 posted...
This year was the very first year the WNBA brought zero rookies or second-year players to the Olympics. It was only the second time (2012) where the WNBA brought zero rookies to the Olympics

They did this in a year where the rookie class is described as generational. In a year where one of the rookies leads the league in assists. Another rookie leads the league in rebounds. Both have broken several records and are by most metrics the league's two most popular players

Both Clark and Reese deserved to make the Olympics this year. Anyone who says otherwise does not know what they are talking about. They were deliberately left off by the selection committee, who gave poor excuses why they were left off. There are no rules saying that rookies can't play in the Olympics. There was no "eligibility" issue. The league just failed to promote its two biggest stars

https://www.today.com/news/sports/caitlin-clark-paris-olympics-2024-rcna156177

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Meh. The whole thing is a joke IMO.

It was hard not to be excited about women's basketball the way things were going the last few years with all the crazy college tourney games. But now I really couldn't care less because nothing is about the WNBA anymore. All talk is about Caitlin Clark and how everything revolves around her for good or for ill. Not at the Olympics? People claim they aren't going to watch the Olympics. How is that good for the WNBA? Anyone touches her on the court? 3 days of online arguments about how hard she was fouled. She's not a player anymore. She's a product that exists to get clicks on the internet and is totally pushed by ESPN and other outlets for solely that purpose. Mind you, none of this is Clark's fault but ALL discourse around the WNBA is total rubbish, at least online. Is it really helpful? It's not like anyone else is getting any press outside of Clark's "hater of the week" whether it's Angel Reese or Sheryl Swoopes. It's just turned into culture war BS and nasty sniping and the media talking heads are loving every second of it.

Some people take the Clark hate too far but I don't blame them when the media is basically telling the world that all their hard work and accomplishments didn't mean jack squat until Caitlin Clark graced their courts even though she couldn't even win her college team a championship.
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Kaitouace posted...
Some people take the Clark hate too far but I don't blame them when the media is basically telling the world that all their hard work and accomplishments didn't mean jack squat until Caitlin Clark graced their courts even though she couldn't even win her college team a championship.

All that Clark has done is play professional basketball. She didn't come in with a chip on her shoulder, she isn't beaking about being the best in the world, she isn't screaming at everyone about how she is bringing more money to the WNBA (which she is). All she does is show up, plays good basketball, and gets fucking hated on and pummeled.

What do you mean you don't blame people for hating on her? What the fuck has she done besides play professional basketball?
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Women are petty as fuck. That's just how it is.
Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
All that Clark has done is play professional basketball. She didn't come in with a chip on her shoulder, she isn't beaking about being the best in the world, she isn't screaming at everyone about how she is bringing more money to the WNBA (which she is). All she does is show up, plays good basketball, and gets fucking hated on and pummeled.

What do you mean you don't blame people for hating on her? What the fuck has she done besides play professional basketball?

That's the problem. It's not her fault. It's the fact that people hijacked her popularity for their own shitty goals and she gets a lot of unfair hate because of it. I understand why some people are upset but they should aim their ire at better targets (mainly the sports media). But I feel they definitely have decent reason to be upset.
"They will never let a Black man be Captain America. And even if they did, no self-respecting Black man would ever wanna be." - Isaiah Bradley
It seems like the wrong people are upset.
People are stirring up shit. The people making it racially motivated just seem racist themselves. this is outside of the sexist men who seem to expect women to act a certain way.
From an outside perspective, it looks like Caitlin clark is saying this is how the game is. Seems like most of these stories don't have much to do about Clark, but what people say about her.
When it comes to anything, sports or other games, people play dirty against someone good. They do what they can to get an advantage.
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So basically, it boils down to one thing, Jealousy
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Kaitouace posted...
That's the problem. It's not her fault. It's the fact that people hijacked her popularity for their own shitty goals and she gets a lot of unfair hate because of it. I understand why some people are upset but they should aim their ire at better targets (mainly the sports media). But I feel they definitely have decent reason to be upset.
some people legitimately just hate her because shes incredibly good and very popular

Swoopes doesnt hate her because of her fanbase, she hates her because Swoopes is incredibly petty and cant acknowledge anything good Clark does
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TBF, more than enough people has praised Caitlin for what she's doing for the WNBA. Can't solely focus on the negatives. There's more good than bad.
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VeggetaX posted...
Tell them Chuck

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This is exactly what I'm talking about. Talking heads constantly pushing this Clark vs. the World mentality that bleeds into the conversation like no one has given her props for being great on the court. And it's hard to try to push the WNBA as a whole when anytime anyone says anything and doesn't include Clark they're automatically labeled a hater. Like people aren't allowed to talk about other players like the former NCAA championship winners for example. The media is the one fucking this up for the WNBA by turning the entire league into petty haters who all apparently can't stand Clark because she's a straight white woman who's good on the court.
"They will never let a Black man be Captain America. And even if they did, no self-respecting Black man would ever wanna be." - Isaiah Bradley
Kaitouace posted...
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Talking heads constantly pushing this Clark vs. the World mentality that bleeds into the conversation like no one has given her props for being great on the court. And it's hard to try to push the WNBA as a whole when anytime anyone says anything and doesn't include Clark they're automatically labeled a hater. Like people aren't allowed to talk about other players like the former NCAA championship winners for example. The media is the one fucking this up for the WNBA by turning the entire league into petty haters who all apparently can't stand Clark because she's a straight white woman who's good on the court.
bruh pretending there isnt a legitimately large hatebase for clark is nonsensical. Did the media make swoopes constantly talk shit on her?

Not talking about clark is different than trashing her, but ignoring ONLY and SPECIFICALLY her while talking about her team is also a problem Why do you apparently not understand this
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Clark is having a better rookie season than Swoopes did in her MVP season.

Shes salty and jealous.
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
bruh pretending there isnt a legitimately large hatebase for clark is nonsensical. Did the media make swoopes constantly talk shit on her?

Not talking about clark is different than trashing her, but ignoring ONLY and SPECIFICALLY her while talking about her team is also a problem Why do you apparently not understand this

Swoopes wasn't talking shit on her. She was talking about the team but since she didn't drool all over Clark while doing so she got attacked which is why a lot of people hate Clark. Not because of her but her paranoid fans who tear into anything they deem as a slight against her. Clark was always playing well so it makes sense to point out how other members of the team turning it around helped the team out in the second half of the season. Clark wasn't getting it done on her own. That's not a bad thing. It's a team working out their issues and getting on the same page.

And fuck SAS. He's one of the biggest culprits pushing this crap for ratings. People already forgot when Monica McNutt eviscerated the guy for trying to take credit for bringing the WNBA to the big leagues when all he did was report on Caitlin Clark like everyone else and could hardly give a fuck about the WNBA before that point while others were always trying to put a spotlight on the league.

Monica spells it out a bit here:
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=841405861345732
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Kaitouace posted...
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Talking heads constantly pushing this Clark vs. the World mentality that bleeds into the conversation like no one has given her props for being great on the court. And it's hard to try to push the WNBA as a whole when anytime anyone says anything and doesn't include Clark they're automatically labeled a hater. Like people aren't allowed to talk about other players like the former NCAA championship winners for example. The media is the one fucking this up for the WNBA by turning the entire league into petty haters who all apparently can't stand Clark because she's a straight white woman who's good on the court.
She's their golden goose. Ride that shit till the wheels fall off. Clark is putting eyes on the sport that nobody has since their first couple years when they had people like Swoopes, Lobo, Leslie, and so on.

Everyone acting petty as fuck when she's literally your golden ticket. Prop her up, make her the face of your league and increase your salary cap 10 fold. She's literally going to make every WNBA player richer than they were before her.

This is Magic Johnson level intrigue she brings, she puts asses in seats and viewers on couches. Build her up, don't break her down.
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ClayGuida posted...
Everyone acting petty as fuck when she's literally your golden ticket.

That's just it. It's not "petty". It's basketball. It's only seen as petty because the media hyperfocuses on any instance that can fuel their narrative. The girl can't even take a foul in a game without it turning into some kind of racial argument. If they just let them play ball it would be fine but the media is constantly cutting them off at the knees for short-term engagement while at the same time souring the public on the WNBA as a whole.
"They will never let a Black man be Captain America. And even if they did, no self-respecting Black man would ever wanna be." - Isaiah Bradley
It absolutely is petty. Teams intentionally trying to injure her for no other reason than she's got a bigger brand than them.

They're fucking idiots. This is some AEW level shit where they'd rather tank their business than get rich.
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ClayGuida posted...
It absolutely is petty. Teams intentionally trying to injure her for no other reason than she's got a bigger brand than them.

Or it's possible that they want to "take her out" because she's real good on the court and doing so would help them win the game?

I mean, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this. Because I think most of the hard fouls, etc. she takes are because she's a great player and it makes sense to target said player if you're on the other team. Are they supposed to stand out of the way and just let her make threes for the SportsCenter reel?
"They will never let a Black man be Captain America. And even if they did, no self-respecting Black man would ever wanna be." - Isaiah Bradley
Kaitouace posted...
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Talking heads constantly pushing this Clark vs. the World mentality that bleeds into the conversation like no one has given her props for being great on the court. And it's hard to try to push the WNBA as a whole when anytime anyone says anything and doesn't include Clark they're automatically labeled a hater. Like people aren't allowed to talk about other players like the former NCAA championship winners for example. The media is the one fucking this up for the WNBA by turning the entire league into petty haters who all apparently can't stand Clark because she's a straight white woman who's good on the court.
The sports media has been garbage for a pretty long time. They're just as bad as the News Media, in that they're solely out for clicks and as many eyeballs watching. I refuse to watch or listen to anything Stephen A Smith, Skip Bayless, or any of those fake, sports daytime talk show pundits. Their job is to stir shit up with their hot takes on the latest on-going story, and get viewers hooked on their shows, and what their next opinion is on the latest "Caitlin Clark hate" drama. "X is reported to have beef against Caitlin Clark, let's take you too Stephen A Smith for his hot take on the situation!"

It would be better if the sports media at least ignored some of these haters, and when it comes to their TV programming, just stick to showing highlights of sports games that have been played a majority of the time. Like it used to been 25+ years ago, before the era of daytime sports talk show. This crap punditry has infested all faces of news and social media.

I don't need to listen to every big name's opinion. I don't care what Sheryl Swoopes has to say, or any other jackass on social media. I'd rather focus on the sport being played. I think the less of this spotlight and attention these haters get, the more quickly this issue of how awful Caitlin Clark is being treated, will quietly go away over time. The WNBA players will eventually treat her like any other player, and stop constantly hard fouling her.
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Kaitouace posted...
That's just it. It's not "petty". It's basketball. It's only seen as petty because the media hyperfocuses on any instance that can fuel their narrative. The girl can't even take a foul in a game without it turning into some kind of racial argument. If they just let them play ball it would be fine but the media is constantly cutting them off at the knees for short-term engagement while at the same time souring the public on the WNBA as a whole.
Bruh have you seen her foul percentages?? This is unreal how youre acting like players dont treat her differently.

The girl has 17% of all flagrants in the league committed against her.

Hee Ho
I keep reading Caitlin Clark as Caitlin Stark and kept wondering why people were hating on a fictional character.
ssb_yunglink2 posted...
The girl has 17% of all flagrants in the league committed against her.

https://www.si.com/onsi/womens-fastbreak/wnba/rebecca-lobo-addresses-viral-caitlin-clark-flagrant-foul-concerns-01j6qakq3f8s

Like that video of Monica I brought up before.

"No, we know what we're talking about even though we just tuned into this thing last Wednesday."

EDIT: I won't deny that the Sky go at Clark hard but that's basically rivalry shit at this point which is exactly what the media wanted anyway. Reese vs. Clark / Sky vs. Fever.
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