Man at this point I'm not even sure that would cause a civil war. Too many stupid and/or lazy fucksProblem is you could -not- maintain typical American living standards under a dictatorship. We will lose our standing in the world stage, good 70+ % or more of the people will suffer econmic dips worst than the Great Depression, there will be a TON of civil unrest as people watch the USA unravel into a downspiral. You couldn't just live normally anymore. The America you and your parents/grandparents grew up in will be gone.
He was just on Fox yesterday saying the opposite.now he will be on the receiving end of "senile, old, decline" comments >_<
Old age has truly caught up to him.
What I heard was the issues youre worried about will be fixed, but only if you vote me in.You might need to get your hearing checked.
That sort of vagueness is intentional in frauds, it means you can ascribe whatever meaning you want to his words.I can absolutely believe that. I always say he sounds like a used car salesman, and trying to up sell something that is horrible seems quite natural to him.
How does that make any sense?I wasnt saying it made sense. It ishmmm. Im struggling to explain. Its hearing whats said. Think of the sentence, were going to get them. No matter who is saying that, I hear it as people planning to pick up other people. Thats what I hear. But if I hear cops saying it, I could also interpret it as a euphemism for capturing criminals.
If you heard "the issues youre worried about will be fixed, but only if you vote me in. then I'd suggest that you stop ignoring everything he's said and did that leads up to this point.Im not ignoring anything. I quite literally said how it could be interpreted. I understand that and the thought of him winning in November fills me with dread. Im not one who needs to be convinced.
I wasnt saying it made sense. It ishmmm. Im struggling to explain. Its hearing whats said. Think of the sentence, were going to get them. No matter who is saying that, I hear it as people planning to pick up other people. Thats what I hear. But if I hear cops saying it, I could also interpret it as a euphemism for capturing criminals.It would depend on context and the history of the person making the statement. For an obvious example, if a mob boss says "I'd like you to deal with Tony" then the implication is pretty unsavoury, especially if Tony has done something problematic for the boss. Switch to an office and you've just taken on a new client called Tony and that's a bit more benign. Gladius_ pointed out Trumps history in this context
I know about Project 2025 and who Trump is. Thats why I said I could interpret it is a threat to democracy. But I also hear what hes saying as being some vague and unfulfillable promise. I cant really help how I hear things, and its one reason I prefer to read transcripts. All I can do is try to accumulate more knowledge so I can interpret whats being said better.Given the above mentioned history, there are only a few ways to not see this as sinister. Either you're unfamiliar with Trump (untrue), stupid (I don't think you're stupid), intentionally trying to misdirect people or in a state of utter denial. When someone has a history of trying to sidestep democracy and they talk about sidestepping democracy, they're probably simply talking about sidestepping democracy rather than something more benevolent. Listen when people tell you who they are.
Im not ignoring anything. I quite literally said how it could be interpreted. I understand that and the thought of him winning in November fills me with dread. Im not one who needs to be convinced.
As a general note to everyone else, please understand what Im saying better. I want a slam dunk that still-Trumpers cant ignore, and this unfortunately is not it. Doesnt mean I wont still try to share it, but I can already predict being called paranoid or having people say Im worrying too much again.There's no such thing as a slam dunk that Trumpers can't ignore. These people aren't rational, they didn't get there through any sort of logic. I've seen videos where MAGA people had the crimes of Trump described to them but attributed to Biden and they correctly said how awful they were. When the interviewer then revealed that it was Trump that said/did them, they immediately deflected to say why it wasn't a problem. Their fundamental tenet is that Trump can do no wrong, it's rule zero of being a Trumper. You cannot reach these people anymore.
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Problem is you could -not- maintain typical American living standards under a dictatorship. We will lose our standing in the world stage, good 70+ % or more of the people will suffer econmic dips worst than the Great Depression, there will be a TON of civil unrest as people watch the USA unravel into a downspiral. You couldn't just live normally anymore. The America you and your parents/grandparents grew up in will be gone.
You simply can't expect things to remain smoothly when you do that to a society thats used to living in relative peace and enjoy tons of rights. Society will breakdown its inevitable.
Given the above mentioned history, there are only a few ways to not see this as sinister. Either you're unfamiliar with Trump (untrue), stupid (I don't think you're stupid), intentionally trying to misdirect people or in a state of utter denial.It may be a lack of hearing anything as sinister. I really dont know why. Growing up with verbal abuse? Ive heard some incredibly messed up things in my life, but I try and make justifications for it mentally. Or maybe its my rather basic English? I dont know, I really cant explain it, Im just trying to be honest with people.
What I heard was the issues youre worried about will be fixed, but only if you vote me in.My immediate thought upon first hearing it, was that he was wording it in a way where he could use this interpretation for plausible deniability.
Why didn't he do this last time he was in charge?He tried on Jan 6th.
Why didn't he do this last time he was in charge?
If most Republicans aren't voting trump it wouldn't have been as close as last election. If most republics aren't voting trump he wouldn't be the nominee. Trump won the republican nomination without even showing up to the debate. In the south I can't go 10 feet without running into a trump for president sign on a lawn, a trump flag, etc.@Gladius_
You are right that there are Republicans who despise trump but they are an extreme minority and an exception to the rule.
If most Republicans aren't voting trump it wouldn't have been as close as last election. If most republics aren't voting trump he wouldn't be the nominee. Trump won the republican nomination without even showing up to the debate. In the south I can't go 10 feet without running into a trump for president sign on a lawn, a trump flag, etc.
You are right that there are Republicans who despise trump but they are an extreme minority and an exception to the rule.
Yeah, it bothers me when I hear (normally from media pundits) describe MAGA members of Congress as "the extremists", when it's like 'ok...but who's actually voting against them? Because unless they're consistent on that they're just going along with the MAGA agenda anyways"For example, the mainstream media should run frequent features on the J6 traitors currently in Congress (i.e., the assholes that voted that day to complete the mob's mission). After all, it's not like they have been run out of office by their constituents.
Nancy Mace is a prime example of someone whose regards were held far too highly by the media, only for her to just be a Trumper every time it came time to put up or shut up.
For example, the mainstream media should run frequent features on the J6 traitors currently in Congress (i.e., the assholes that voted that day to complete the mob's mission). After all, it's not like they have been run out of office by their constituents.
Politicians who praise Trump fare better in elections in right wing states than those who don't. Republicans overwhelmingly support Trump.Eventually he will be the downfall of their party. I just hope its sooner rather than later, because Im damned tired of MAGA.
It may be a lack of hearing anything as sinister. I really dont know why. Growing up with verbal abuse? Ive heard some incredibly messed up things in my life, but I try and make justifications for it mentally. Or maybe its my rather basic English? I dont know, I really cant explain it, Im just trying to be honest with people.I would go with denial then. Not denial that he's dangerous as you've pointed that out, but denial that this is signalling his intentions. The guy has a history of looking up to dictators and admiring authoritarianism. He's tried several times to force through policies and suspend rights. He directly supported Project 2025. January 6th was a thing. Even Hitler had a failed insurrection prior to him taking control.
Im not trying to misdirect anyone, or in denial that Trump is a danger to the country. Maybe in 2020 I would have said that, but even if 1/6/21 was a pathetic attempt to circumvent the legal process, it was still an attempt.
I am talking about now. Right now everywhere where I live is flags for trump, people with "Trump for 2025" and more. They are absolutely 100% supporting him. Even now they make excuses even with a direct video of him saying people won't have to vote anymore if he wins. Polls show huge support for Trump too. Trump won the nomination for his party without even having to debate.Yes, and this is why many Republicans are a threat to us and democracy in general. We simply cannot coexist with them at this point. While I'm glad none of my family members are MAGA supporters, I truly feel for those who do have fascist-supporting relatives.
That's how much support he has among Republicans. So much support that more reasonable Republicans have vacated their seats due to how much maga are in office. Nikki Hailey ran an entire smear campaign against trump and the moment she lost she began bending over and praising him. Why? Because not doing so would have tanked her career.
Politicians who praise Trump fare better in elections in right wing states than those who don't. Republicans overwhelmingly support Trump.
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He is a false prophet.
He's a lostprophetThe group leading people astray, or the group led by a kiddie diddler?
The group leading people astray, or the group led by a kiddie diddler?
With Trump having such a vast sea of gaffes, bungled policy, and reprehensive views / actions, it's overwhelming for his critics to keep track of it all, and its too much for skeptics to believe.
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