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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Boy I hope you feel a little silly for being so insistent. Did you learn anything?
Says the guy who doesn't vote.
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StealThisSheen posted...
Especially since other sources have the same photo without the trail.
Which sources?
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ooger posted...
Says the guy who doesn't vote.
I've been pretty open about the fact that I don't vote. It's kinda interesting that you're just now commenting on it like it's news.
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It's pretty interesting that you expect people to take you seriously when you don't care.
This signature is not political.
ooger posted...
It's pretty interesting that you expect people to take you seriously when you don't care.
I care enough to comment. I don't care enough to vote.

If you're trying to get a rise out of me or something, you can stop.
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
I care enough to comment. I don't care enough to vote.
Which means your comments aren't well thought out.
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Which sources?

The earlier post by the NYT, which somebody quoted in a Tweet specifically because the picture did not have the bullet streak in it, and only ended up changing after they replaced the photo. It's literally even referenced in this very topic, and even made Fin, himself, doubt things and admit I may be right, at the time.

The photographer, himself, hasn't acknowledged the photo, despite posting others and being constantly tagged. No other real news source, not even right wing sources, are referencing said photo, remotely, despite the fact that, if it were real, it'd be one hell of a million in one photo.

You don't find that a little bit odd?
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ooger posted...
Which means your comments aren't well thought out.
You are welcome to form your own opinions. I'm not gonna argue with you about it.
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StealThisSheen posted...
The earlier post by the NYT, which somebody quoted in a Tweet specifically because the picture did not have the bullet streak in it, and only ended up changing after they replaced the photo.
I'm going to need some citations and such for this, because a lot has been posted and I don't actually know what you're referring to here. One step at a time.
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StealThisSheen posted...
The earlier post by the NYT, which somebody quoted in a Tweet specifically because the picture did not have the bullet streak in it, and only ended up changing after they replaced the photo. It's literally even referenced in this very topic, and even made Fin, himself, doubt things and admitted I may be right, at the time.

The photographer, himself, hasn't acknowledged the photo, despite posting others and being constantly tagged. No other real news source, not even right wing sources, are referencing said photo, remotely, despite the fact that, if it were real, it'd be one hell of a million in one photo.

You don't find that a little bit odd?
Yes I posted a link to a tweet of a guy posting a photo in the comments of the original tweet, but he is corrected in the replies to his own tweet and accepts it when told it was a direct link to the NYT site.
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
I don't actually know what you're referring to here.
If you had skin in the game, you might know.
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Fin_Dawg_004 posted...
This was in the comments, you may be right. I can't check because I don't have a NYT account

https://twitter.com/JordanFifer/status/1812295002434777283
Post #57.

It really is odd that the same pictures exist without the bullet.
Edit: Maybe?
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BakonBitz posted...
Post #57.

It really is odd that the same pictures exist without the bullet.
Edit: Maybe?
no, go to the tweet and click on the picture. it links directly to the nyt page. You just cant see it because it's low res in the tweet lol

the guy in the tweet acknowledges his mistake in the replies
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ooger posted...
If you had skin in the game, you might know.
Oh. You're just doing that thing that people sometimes do.

I'm done replying to you. Have fun.
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Fin_Dawg_004 posted...
Yes I posted a link to a tweet of a guy posting a photo in the comments of the original tweet, but he is corrected in the replies to his own tweet and accepts it when told it was a direct link to the NYT site.

In the comments in question, the original poster simply says she "Took a screenshot directly of the NYT site," implying she didn't alter the photo, and all the person who posted about the differing photos replies with is "Thank you." Why the different photos existed, in the first place, is never accounted for. The only thing acknowledged is that the NYT site, within the last hour, has the bullet photo. It's never answered why only THEY have the photo, and why literally nobody else, photographer included, is acknowledging it, despite it being a miracle of a photograph, if it really did capture the bullet.
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BakonBitz posted...
It really is odd that the same pictures exist without the bullet.
Where? It's in both sets in the same spot.
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StealThisSheen posted...
In the comments in question, the original poster simply says she "Took a screenshot directly of the NYT site," implying she didn't alter the photo, and all the person who posted about the differing photos replies with is "Thank you." Why the different photos existed, in the first place, is never accounted for.

Fin_Dawg_004 posted...
no, go to the tweet and click on the picture. it links directly to the nyt page. You just cant see it because it's low res in the tweet lol

the guy in the tweet acknowledges his mistake in the replies

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Fin_Dawg_004 posted...
it's in the link on the tweet. To a NYT page of live updates about 2 hours back, submitted by the NYT reporter she credited in the tweet

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/13/us/biden-trump-election
Just checked it and I can confirm that it is 100% real, so the other guy who claimed it was fake was, ironically, the one who faked his photo.

Here is a direct link
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2024/07/13/world/13trump-shooting-combo/13trump-shooting-combo-superJumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp

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The Secret Service had a sniper team covering the event, which makes them look even more incompetent with this security breach: https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/1812296124557844840?s=46&t=C0FPgnVerEgJPPKABEiBig

Especially since there was a water tower above the roofs that they didn't bother sending anyone up:
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FFTHEWINNER posted...
Just checked it and I can confirm that it is 100% real, so the other guy who claimed it was fake was, ironically, the one who faked his photo.

Here is a direct link
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2024/07/13/world/13trump-shooting-combo/13trump-shooting-combo-superJumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp
yeah the picture in the tweet by the guy questioning it is actually a low res picture of a link directly to the NYT site. So this is literally the only version of the picture that exists. Which is awesome
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StealThisSheen posted...
In the comments in question, the original poster simply says she "Took a screenshot directly of the NYT site," implying she didn't alter the photo, and all the person who posted about the differing photos replies with is "Thank you." Why the different photos existed, in the first place, is never accounted for. The only thing acknowledged is that the NYT site, within the last hour, has the bullet photo. It's never answered why only THEY have the photo, and why literally nobody else, photographer included, is acknowledging it, despite it being a miracle of a photograph, if it really did capture the bullet.
Its not a smoke trail or bullet time, its debris picked up on its course; human tissue. The camera also likely was a high end camera taking numerous shots per second; its fairly common to have at a big press event. Thats how they get those perfect high quality facial expressions that they like to run with.

Those are my theories that could explain the picture, but I really dont have any investment in this one.
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BDSMKane posted...
Its not a smoke trail or bullet time, its debris picked up on its course; human tissue. The camera also likely was a high end camera taking numerous shots per second; its fairly common to have at a big press event. Thats how they get those perfect high quality facial expressions that they like to run with.

Those are my theories that could explain the picture, but I really dont have any investment in this one.

My question would be why is literally nobody carrying it, if it's real, since it'd be such an amazing photograph. Not even the photographer is acknowledging it.

That's also not to mention that there are questions as to whether Trumps injury actually came from being hit, directly, or glass shrapnel from a teleprompter being hit, which, if it's the latter, there would be no human tissue debris. Also, even if you believe the photo to be real, his wound was on the TOP of his ear, not the bottom, which would make the trajectory of that shot impossible to actually be human tissue.

I remain skeptical, until literally anybody but the NYT says something about it.

EDIT: Like, let's say this photo:
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2024/07/13/world/13trump-shooting-combo/13trump-shooting-combo-superJumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp

Is 1000% real. That still cannot be human tissue debris, because, based on where he was actually hit, that is way too low to be the shot that hit him.
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According to CNN, the shooter is a 20 year old from PA. That's certainly going to inflame the age divide issue in this country if true.
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Bat178 posted...
The shooter apparently used an AR, not a sniper rifle.
Thats not very helpful information. An AR is an Armalite Rifle, most commonly referring to the AR-15 design, and less commonly the AR-10 design. An AR-15 can only chamber intermediate cartridges due to dimensional limitations (and once those are altered its no longer an AR-15). Such a round could be used effectively at that range, but it would be a poor choice due to sectional density and drop off; especially out of a rotating bolt rifle, which are inherently less accurate.

A proper AR-10 is unlikely too, as theyre expensive to build and expensive to buy. More likely would be a DPMS LR-308 if it was built or Knights Armament SR-25 if it was bought, which are both based on the same design but modified to be different. Of course thats only if they wanted something that still had an AR design with a larger caliber round.

Meanwhile, a sniper rifle is simply a term LEO and military give to whatever rifle they plan to snipe people with. There really is no definition because its a term to describe function and not defined by armament.
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BDSMKane posted...
Thats not very helpful information. An AR is an Armalite Rifle, most commonly referring to the AR-15 design, and less commonly the AR-10 design. An AR-15 can only chamber intermediate cartridges due to dimensional limitations (and once those are altered its no longer an AR-15). Such a round could be used effectively at that range, but it would be a poor choice due to sectional density and drop off; especially out of a rotating bolt rifle, which are inherently less accurate.

A proper AR-10 is unlikely too, as theyre expensive to build and expensive to buy. More likely would be a DPMS LR-308 if it was built or Knights Armament SR-25 if it was bought, which are both based on the same design but modified to be different. Of course thats only if they wanted something that still had an AR design with a larger caliber round.

Meanwhile, a sniper rifle is simply a term LEO and military give to whatever rifle they plan to snipe people with. There really is no definition because its a term to describe function and not defined by armament.
It was apparently specifically an AR-15 type rifle.
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With so many topics, and way too much news, can someone just tl:dr what we do know for certain on the latest WTFness?
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StarFighters76 posted...
With so many topics, and way too much news, can someone just tl:dr what we do know for certain on the latest WTFness?

Not a lot of details as of yet.

https://www.vox.com/politics/360390/trump-shooting-butler-pa-pennsylvania-ear-secret-service
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Sonixs posted...
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This guy gets it. Dems need to condemn the shit out of this and extend an olive branch about curbing gun violence and see what assholes still refuse to play ball.
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If the shooter identity hasn't been confirmed does that mean social media rushed and put out the wrong name/photo out there with that Mark Violets stuff?

Dead shooter photo didnt seem fat like the Mark person whos pic and info was all over the place.
Hey now.
lilORANG posted...
This guy gets it. Dems need to condemn the shit out of this and extend an olive branch about curbing gun violence and see what assholes still refuse to play ball.
They will just say "How dare you politicize this shooting." Then vote no, and demand more guns. Republicans have never needed to have a good reason to vote against gun legislation.
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BlueTigerLion posted...
If the shooter identity hasn't been confirmed does that mean social media rushed and put out the wrong name/photo out there with that Mark Violets stuff?

If the Twitterverse DIDN'T do that I would be very suspicious of it all and then think it was an actual false flag. lol
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BlueTigerLion posted...
If the shooter identity hasn't been confirmed does that mean social media rushed and put out the wrong name/photo out there with that Mark Violets stuff?

Dead shooter photo didnt seem fat like the Mark person whos pic and info was all over the place.

Mark Violets stuff is 100% fake.
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It's really bizarre to me that we are almost 6 hours after this incident with the shooter dead and still no word on who the shooter was.
Fin_Dawg_004 posted...
Police about to hold a press conference:

Live now

https://www.youtube.com/live/szm4fJLaQUU?feature=shared

Doesn't sound like they're gonna say much. Saying they're still trying to ID the shooter.
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faizan_faizan posted...
I just want to see the seethe compilations again like 2016. It's going to be glorious
Get this shit out of here.
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Kaitouace posted...
Doesn't sound like they're gonna say much. Saying they're still trying to ID the shooter.

We'll probably never know who it was
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Kaitouace posted...
Mark Violets stuff is 100% fake.

That was what I thought. Probably wont be an apology for ruining someone life and doxxing them like that. Looks like those intial reports about it being a BB Gun was also false too. Kinda wish I tuned out this story for a couple hours until the details could be worked out.
Hey now.
don't know if i can link it, but tmz has video of the shooter taking a shot(s)
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faizan_faizan posted...
I just want to see the seethe compilations again like 2016. It's going to be glorious

People wouldn't be as shocked the 2nd time around.
welp
BlueTigerLion posted...
Looks like those intial reports about it being a BB Gun was also false too.
Those were obviously wrong even as they were being made. It sounded nothing at all like a BB gun.
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Fin_Dawg_004 posted...
don't know if i can link it, but tmz has video of the shooter taking a shot(s)

Crazy. I mean, a ton of people apparently saw the guy and they're yelling before he shoots. WTF man?
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Wait, one shooter is identified according to them?
Apparently, the shooter's name is Thomas Matthew Crooks.
Kaitouace posted...
Crazy. I mean, a ton of people apparently saw the guy and they're yelling before he shoots. WTF man?
Someone seriously fucked up with the security at the event.
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