Serious stuff, take this seriously.It may not be important to you but it's fiercely important to some people.
I don't even know what Aliagender means.
It may not be important to you but it's fiercely important to some people.
I wasn't sold, but then you said it was "fiercely" important.CE was the wrong place to make this topic
It's apparently a non-binary identity that exists as completely distinct from man/woman and the usual language surrounding it
Makes sense enough and I'm not going to tell people what they are or aren't even if it's overwhelming to grasp for the outsiders
Some of these seem made up, or they're super duper niche. I'm gay and never heard of most of thoseTbh, I feel like stuff like this fragments the LGBT, as it just seems so wild to make something so pointlessly complicated and segregated. I'll never understand the need to make so many labels for what you are instead of just stating your sexuality is irrelevant. Like who you like.
Tbh, I feel like stuff like this fragments the LGBT, as it just seems so wild to make something so pointlessly complicated and segregated. I'll never understand the need to make so many labels for what you are instead of just stating your sexuality is irrelevant. Like who you like.I mean it's easy to say that if you don't care about it
man its hard to keep up with all this new terminology at times... lol^ Yeah. I really struggle to keep up
Some of these seem made up, or they're super duper niche. I'm gay and never heard of most of those
I mean it's easy to say that if you don't care about itThis is potentially condescending , and I don't think you even meant it this way. It's such an entire whiff on understanding what I'm saying that I'm almost stunned.
But it's like going to a Texan and saying "Why are you so complicated and segregated? You're American, everything else is irrelevant."
Or going up to an Irish guy and saying "You're European, why segregate yourself with this Irish nonsense? It's irrevelant"
Or a protestant and saying "You're Christian, stop being so divisive."
In fact I remember Christopher Hitchens talking about being stopped at a red light in Belfast and having a man with a balaclava point a knife at him and say "Are you Catholic or Protestant!?" and he goes "I'm Jewish Atheist."
"..... Well are you a Catholic Jewiesh Atheist or a Protestant Jewish Atheist?"
People's identities can be very sacrosanct. They're not trying to "have a successful movement" they're trying to be themselves. I get why it matters and I'm trying to do better but as the other user said:
Yeah I can't be bothered to learn this shit. I'll just leave it at if someone tells me they are that this or the other Allright cool ill try to rememberRight. If someone says it, the only thing I can do is shrug and say "fine" whatever makes them happy is cool, but needing to actually grab a chart to try to remember all of this is beyond ridiculous.
Question though is bigender like gender fluid at all?
You don't choose to be Texan or choose who your ancestors were. It's still important to a lot of people.
I'm not arrogant enough to tell them it doesn't matter because I don't care.
I like Mass Effect, doesn't mean I like The Hunger Games and it would irk me if someone told me that doesn't matter because they're both sci-fi so I'm being needlessly divisive.
Different things are important to different people.
My mom was adopted and it massively bothers her that she is unable to track her biological ancestory. I don't give a shit about my ancestory.
Who are you to decide which of us is right? We're different. We identify differently.
If someone is non-binary and that's important to them, it doesn't bother me at all and I want to respect that rather than tell them it doesn't matter because it doesn't matter to me and they need to stop segregating things I don't care about. That's Jacob-Rees Mogg level
You don't choose to be Texan or choose who your ancestors were. It's still important to a lot of people.You do, however, choose to act as though being Texas doesn't make you the same as other Americans. The main reason that people even bring up the differences with states is a combination of culture and location.
I'm not arrogant enough to tell them it doesn't matter because I don't care.
I like Mass Effect, doesn't mean I like The Hunger Games and it would irk me if someone told me that doesn't matter because they're both sci-fi so I'm being needlessly divisive.
Different things are important to different people.
My mom was adopted and it massively bothers her that she is unable to track her biological ancestory. I don't give a shit about my ancestory.
Who are you to decide which of us is right? We're different. We identify differently.
If someone is non-binary and that's important to them, it doesn't bother me at all and I want to respect that rather than tell them it doesn't matter because it doesn't matter to me and they need to stop segregating things I don't care about. That's Jacob-Rees Mogg level
You don't choose to be Texan or choose who your ancestors were. It's still important to a lot of people.
Let me play devils advocate here. I don't really care one way or another but I think I'm following what he is saying more than you so far.I do the latter but don't take issue with people who don't.
You mention the liking mass effect but not hunger games. Would you make up a term for that or simply state you like this but don't like that
Just to use your example, I think it's more being confused by someone who gets offended by being called a New Yorker, even though they're from NY, and the only thing you know about them is that they're from New York, but prefer to be known by the street they live on.
"I'm not a New Yorker! I'm a Main Street of Syossett in Nassau County on Long Island in New Yorker!"
yes
As long as "both sides" aren't rude about it, and whatever mis-identification happens is made with no malice, and is corrected with no return malice, I'll call you whatever makes you the most comfortable.
I do the latter but don't take issue with people who don't.
See: Trekkies/Dwarfers etc.
Point is, I think the approach of "I don't care and suspect most people don't care so it doesn't matter since it doesn't matter to me, why are you so difficult?" is pretty devoid of tact.
You don't choose to be Texan
which is entirely what LBGT was about
NoWay to entirely miss everything that was said in that paragraph.
Trans being part of it has nothing to do with "who they like" it's "who they are" and to try to word it how you did is just more trans erasure from queer populations
Recognizing that different populations within a community have differing needs isn't enough attempting to isolate oneselfHaving acceptance from people without discrimination are differing needs?
It's just fucking true
It's this milquetoast cry of pandering to cishet society that's the issue. We can instead demand that we get treated as human even when they don't get us, when they get overwhelmed by labels, when it's not convenient for them, etc.
Fuck assimilation to please them
Having acceptance from people without discrimination are differing needs?
Don't be fuckin denseThat's not an answer to the question.
That's not an answer to the question.
Looks like a new set of Unown Pokmon.
Acceptance without discrimination looks a lot different for a cis gay man than it would for a lesbian trans woman.No it doesn't. Stop.
Trying to distill different groups needs into a neat little package doesn't work.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/99c46793.jpgThis graphic is from the Tumblr era...
And I don't even know what Aliagender means. Is that Non-gender?
No it doesn't. Stop.
Yes, it does. I'm going to make the bold assumption that you're a gay white (demographically likely for this site) cis man and so you simply don't understand that yes, there are very different forms acceptance without discrimination takes for especially trans people.Incorrect. Your bold assumption is goddamn wrong. Like I said before. Stop what you're fucking doing. You are wrong.
It's easy and clippable to just say "acceptance and no discrimination" but when you're not qualified to state what the discrimination is because you don't experience it you don't get to say the needs are the same.
I mean theyre not tho?Oh, so I'm a gay white man? News to me.