https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks0lTdTPBdsLiberal Democrats are closer in ideology to the Conservatives than Labour and even went into a coalition with them in 2010. They're a centre ground party that leans slightly to the left.
As an American, are the LibDems left of Labour, or are they what we'd call Libertarians? Every country seems to have a different definition, and I swear they all change it every 15 years to be even more confusing.
If they aren't, are any parties left of Labour, or are you guys getting just as Overtoned as we are?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks0lTdTPBds
As an American, are the LibDems left of Labour, or are they what we'd call Libertarians? Every country seems to have a different definition, and I swear they all change it every 15 years to be even more confusing.
If they aren't, are any parties left of Labour, or are you guys getting just as Overtoned as we are?
As an American, are the LibDems left of Labour, or are they what we'd call Libertarians?
The Liberal Democrats are so fringe at the moment I honestly dont know anymore. Since a brief stint where they joined a coalition with the Tories (2010) theyve pretty much become persona non grata.
Britain doesn't really have a left to speak of, outside of tiny, mostly regional parties. Ever since the 1980s, Labour's core argument has been "we'll do the same things as the Tories, just without the incompetent clowns". That's why the UK never actually recovered from Thatcherism.
Main talking point so far is how Sunak fucked off halfway through the d-day memorial yesterday.His defence of 'I left intentional things to do BRITISH things' shows he is simply thick as pig shit.
A video I just watched on their manifesto makes it sound like the Lib Dems have moved to the left as Labour moves a bit more to the right.The problem is that everyone remembers when their manifesto promised to abolish university tuition fees.
The problem is that everyone remembers when their manifesto promised to abolish university tuition fees.
Then they went into coalition with the Tories and supported them being trebled.
It still haunts the Lib Dems, and they still haven't shaken the reputation of being untrustworthy.
I agree. Problem is there were in a coalition. As a minority member. Compromises have to made. No one take about the fact they managed to push through 60% of their manifesto during the same period.They didn't have to form a coalition with the fucking Tories. A Lab/Lib/SNP coalition was viable. Or they could have given the electorate another go to sort it out.
I agree. Problem is there were in a coalition. As a minority member. Compromises have to made. No one take about the fact they managed to push through 60% of their manifesto during the same period.
They didn't compromise, they collaborated - there's a big difference. And yes, that included tuition fees: https://www.indy100.com/news/clegg-was-offered-a-pass-on-a-rise-in-tuition-fees-by-osborne-he-rejected-it-7278621As someone who was affected by the change in tuition fees, what a load of bullshit he pulled here
As someone who was affected by the change in tuition fees, what a load of bullshit
Are you expressing your disapproval of what Clegg did, or are you saying you don't think what the article says is true?The former, apologies. I've edited my post to hopefully make it more clear
1. They didn't have to join a coalition with the Tories.
2. Having done so, they didn't have to sustain that coalition for five years.
3. They didn't compromise, they collaborated - there's a big difference. And yes, that included tuition fees: https://www.indy100.com/news/clegg-was-offered-a-pass-on-a-rise-in-tuition-fees-by-osborne-he-rejected-it-7278621
4. They didn't push through anywhere near 60% of their manifesto.
And yet somehow they're still less awful than what Starmer has turned Labour into.
Latest polls give good news for the Lib Dems as if they're correct, they would become the official opposition, knocking the Tories into third place.FPTP is so bloody broken....
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