Now we get to listen to MAGAs argue in favor of opening up the borderNo, they'll just continue argue that he hasn't done anything. Record deportation did not prevent Republicans from claiming Obama had a policy of open borders.
Now we get to listen to MAGAs argue in favor of opening up the borderdark brandon 10 steps ahead
Remember how a few years ago this would have been seen as a fascist move by Trump?
Remember how a few years ago this would have been seen as a fascist move by Trump?
Remember how a few years ago this would have been seen as a fascist move by Trump?
Remember how a few years ago this would have been seen as a fascist move by Trump?I don't know if you are aware of this, but this is seen as a negative by those same people.
Forgot the temporarily part in your topic title.Wouldn't be dramatic enough.
Gonna get blocked by the courts.
WASHINGTON President Joe Biden is expected to sign an executive action Tuesday that would temporarily shut down the southern border when daily migrant crossings between legal ports of entry exceed 2,500, with the border reopening when the number falls below 1,500, according to three people familiar with the discussions.
The White House has conveyed this threshold to lawmakers, two of the sources said, but stressed some details were still being finalized before Tuesdays anticipated rollout.
Daily encounters at the U.S.-Mexico border are currently averaging more than 4,000, according to Department of Homeland Security officials, which suggests a shutdown could go into effect immediately, though administration officials are bracing for legal challenges.
Details of the executive order were reported exclusively by NBC News on May 23. A critical consideration was working with the administration of Mexican President Andrs Manuel Lpez Obrador to get its cooperation on some key provisions, according to multiple officials familiar with the negotiations. On Sunday, Claudia Sheinbaum, whose candidacy was supported by Lpez Obrador, won election to succeed him as president.
The executive action is expected to rely on a presidential authority in the U.S. Code known as Section 212 (f), which would let the president unilaterally suspend the entry of specific groups of migrants whenever the number of attempted border crossings grows too high.
A shutdown would not block trade, travel or entry by immigrants presenting themselves lawfully for asylum at ports of entry. But it would block migrants from applying for asylum if they crossed the border between ports of entry during the shutdown.
According to one of the sources, the administration studied what was done under Trump administration and tried to avoid legal pitfalls, carving out exceptions for unaccompanied children and victims of trafficking.
DHS is also expected to redesignate Temporary Protected Status (TPS) for Haiti, which would enable certain Haitian nationals who are in the U.S. to remain until conditions improve in Haiti, three of the sources said.
The country has been largely in control of armed gangs since March, and many lawmakers on Capitol Hill have urged the Biden administration to extend TPS to Haitians and to halt deportations.
In recent days, the White House has reached out to mayors of border cities to attend the signing of the executive order, according to a source familiar with the matter.
Border politics have been a hot topic for months, with an effort by Senate Democrats in May to advance a bipartisan border security bill hitting a wall.
In February, senators released details of a bipartisan agreement that would have imposed tougher immigration and asylum laws and allowed Biden to shut down the border when it becomes overwhelmed, the president said in January in urging lawmakers to pass the bill.
But just days later, Republican senators killed the bill their own party had negotiated with Democrats.
Border security appears to be a weak spot for Biden, according to polling. Former President Donald Trump has a 30-point edge with registered voters on the question of which candidate would handle immigration and border security better, including a 23-point edge among Latino voters, according to a late March CNBC national poll.
If elected, Trump has vowed to launch the biggest domestic deportation operation in his second term. During his administration, Trump made it harder for foreign-born workers to enter the U.S., with visa denials rising by over 20% in both fiscal year 2018 and 2019 and refugee admissions decreasing.
There were 179,725 encounters along the southern border in April, a slight decrease from recent months, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection. Over 1.5 million encounters have been recorded this fiscal year to date, meaning fiscal year 2024 has so far outpaced fiscal years 2023, 2022 and 2021 in encounters, according to the data.
One of the sources said the administration is bracing for attempted crossings to rise again this summer, so the decision was made to act now.
Now we get to listen to MAGAs argue in favor of opening up the border
Remember how a few years ago this would have been seen as a fascist move by Trump?
Why even have a borders at all, just let everyone into the land of the free
I would be all for this too if it wasnt for the cartel.Borders don't stop the cartels. They can just bribe people to get in.
Remember how a few years ago this would have been seen as a fascist move by Trump?"Same thing both sides!!!!!!"
Republican politics has basically become endorse the opposite of whatever the Dems have done lately.
So theyre about to claim that they are champions of the underappreciated immigrant who is just coming her for a better life. And asylum for all who seek it.
I dont have an issue with immigration. I do have an issue with uncontrolled immigration.
Im from the UK so I dont know the nuances of how this will work in the US but if its the same as the UK both main parties will play lip service to immigration while year on year the numbers increase.
Cheap labour and a low birth rate in the UK make it too attractive for the economy.
In the flip side with growing climate change the flow of people wanting to get into western nations is only going to increase. What are we going to do when tens of millions of people start moving? We cant let them all in. Whata the answer? I honestly have no idea.
#musings
What are the negatives in your opinion?
Of shutting the border?Of "uncontrolled immigration" that you have an issue with. In UK specifically I mean .
What are we going to do when tens of millions of people start moving? We cant let them all in.The alternative is increasing amounts of violence used to keep them out. Can we do that?
The alternative is increasing amounts of violence used to keep them out. Can we do that?
Now we get to listen to MAGAs argue in favor of opening up the borderThey'll just say he's weak on the border for not nuking Mexico.
Its a s***ty situation no doubt. You could easily argue climate change is caused primarily by the west so we have a responsibility to recompense those most affected by it. I guess the answer depends on how practical it is to allow millions of people to come into the US at a time were seeing the inevitable death throes of neoliberalism. How much of a drop in our own standards of living wed be willing to take to do this. And ultimately whether it would even be feasible on a purely political level.
I would be all for this too if it wasnt for the cartel.This or really the fact that without any sort of boarders period all sorts of shit would go through and fuck things up. Plants and Animals alone would be a danger to other countries.
Trump and the GOP's mindset does seem to be leaning more to if the Third World is going to be screwed over by America then they are just sacrifices for there living standards...with nothing off the table to keep them in there place.
Plants and Animals alone would be a danger to other countries.I don't know how to tell you this but plants and animals have very little respect for borders regardless of how lenient they are.
I don't know how to tell you this but plants and animals have very little respect for borders regardless of how lenient they are.But people do hence why we have them or some form like customs