Given that this country has produced GOAT in pretty much all major sports (MJ, Tiger Woods, Tom Brady, Barry Bonds, Chris Chelios, etc), why is it so hard for the USA to produce a generational player like Messi in soccer?chris chelios?
The US doesn't care about soccerIt's not the 90s anymore, man
No, most star athletes go to where the money is.
That's the thing. Good American players will go play in Europe where the pay is better but when the WC rolls around they come back to play for the USMNT.What US players are under big contracts?
No, because it's the 5th most popular sportI would argue that soccer has surpassed hockey in popularity.
No, most star athletes go to where the money is.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d0106602.jpgNo clue what that list even is supposed to mean.
No clue what that list even is supposed to mean.Highest earning athletes in the world
Highest earning athletes in the worldWhat's it based on though? Nothing about this list seems factually correct about anything. Neymar is currently making 162m a year from the Saudis and LeBron has 450m career earnings in basketball.
What US players are under big contracts?That's not the point. Messi is paid more than almost every athlete, and is in fact, an American Athlete being paid by Americans playing in America in American teams at the moment. The question is about whether or not the USMNT will ever get a player like him because if he went to go to the next WC, it would be for Argentina.
Now compare that to American athletes in other sports.
That's not the point. Messi is paid more than almost every athlete, and is in fact, an American Athlete being paid by Americans playing in America in American teams at the moment. The question is about whether or not the USMNT will ever get a player like him because if he went to go to the next WC, it would be for Argentina.You pointing out a single player isn't the point you think it is. Would you rather join a profession where hundreds of players are making tens if not hundreds of millions or one that only a select few make much money at all.
As of May 2023, the average salary for a Major League Soccer (MLS) player was $530,262
As of April 2024, the average NBA player salary for the 2023/24 season was over $10 million, with a minimum salary of $1.12 million.
As of February 2024, the average salary for an NFL player is around $2.8 million.
The US training system gate keeps out lower income players, while other countries make the sport accessible to everyone.Yeah it's inherently racist to keep out commuists and nonwhites.
You pointing out a single player isn't the point you think it is. Would you rather join a profession where hundreds of players are making tens if not hundreds of millions or one that only a select few make much money at all.
There's your answer. If you'd like to debate about it more, bring some stats.
You pointing out a single player isn't the point you think it isI mean the point I'm making is that the topic says literally "Will the USMNT produce a player like Messi" and whether the answer is yes or no, it's definitely not because the money ain't there.
You pointing out a single player isn't the point you think it is. Would you rather join a profession where hundreds of players are making tens if not hundreds of millions or one that only a select few make much money at all.
There's your answer. If you'd like to debate about it more, bring some stats.
You're using the top american football and basketball leagues in the world then using a joke football league.I'm using US sports. Because this is a topic about US athletes.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/814c4c1a.jpg
IPL is cricket, of all things.
EPL, La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A, Ligue 1, and CSL are all football.
I'm using US sports. Because this is a topic about US athletes.
I'm using US sports. Because this is a topic about US athletes.
Not Brazilian athletes, not English athletes. Not Argentinian athletes.
And the simple fact is, there's no money in the US for soccer players, so great soccer players simply move on to other sports as they age. Just like there's no money in amateur wrestling, so wrestlers out of college transition to MMA instead.
It's truly not that hard of a concept to understand.
I'll also ask again, who the top paid American soccer players are. I asked before and got a list with LeBron James being the only American athlete on it.
Bruh... Messi is Argentinian and because who he is in Spain. You're looking at this wrong.I'm looking at this in the only correct light.
I'm looking at this in the only correct light.
American athletes, the finest in the world, literally choose the lucrative sports over soccer, because Soccer doesn't pay shit. As I showed the MLS league pays a fraction of what NBA, the NFL, and MLB pay, so that's where star soccer athletes gravitate to as they get older.
It's honestly not that hard to grasp. I mean there's literally been extensive reports done on this very thing.
A best player in the world isn't going to play in the MLS. Money isn't going to be a factor.Again, you're thinking about 1 player. If the MLS paid what the NBA does, we'd easily have the top soccer team in the world because all the athletes that transition to baseball, hockey, football, and basketball in high school would simply keep playing Soccer.
I'm using US sports. Because this is a topic about US athletes.
Not Brazilian athletes, not English athletes. Not Argentinian athletes.
I don't understand the argument here
Again, you're thinking about 1 player. If the MLS paid what the NBA does, we'd easily have the top soccer team in the world because all the athletes that transition to baseball, hockey, football, and basketball in high school would simply keep playing Soccer.
It's simply quantity of top tier athletes. When you have too many to count, you dominate, like the US does in Basketball and would surely do in Football.
Yeah this part really cant be overstatedFor a while this is what people said about Maradona and then Messi happened who is basically Maradona 2.
No we wouldn't because our youth system is dog shit. The French league doesn't pay as much as the other leagues, but France produces some of the best players around. England on the other hand pays the most out of all the leagues, but they haven't really produced many top top players, let alone anyone even approaching a Messi or Ronaldo level. Bumping the average MLS salary up another 500k isn't going to change that.Because France doesn't produce baseball or football players. They only recently started producing basketball players.
Soccer sucks. No ebb and flow, no tension, just, oh he made it that time, great.
The fuck are you even watching....
He's not. The people who say this haven't watched football. They are also the same people who are screaming their heads off 15 seconds at a time for three hours at American football.