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Just vote blue
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Serious_Cat posted...
Periodic reminder that Hillary won the popular vote by almost 3 million. It was 80,000 votes in three states that determined the election.
Technically it was Russian interference that determined the election.

Russia keeps messing with American elections because Trump is their puppet.
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IF we get through this and Trump loses, I'm confident in 2028 we won't see Biden or Trump anymore at all, and will have a whole new set of options.

If Trump wins - all bets are off. I'm not confident something would prevent more elections from even happening.
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The only people I say deserve whatever comes is:
  • The people who don't vote for Biden
  • The people who encourage or roundabout encourage others to not vote. (Including those who claim theyre voting, but defend those not voting for Biden, essentiallya roundabout encouragement.) All in all its still encouraging enough of the population to help Trump.


2020 stopped Trump in a few states by just a few thousand votes, some even less than that. So, yes, every vote matters even if you think it doesn't. Collectively enough people running around with that logic also can affect an election.

Anyway, the above are the only people I think deserves whatever Trump does to the US.
The only person you should be blaming for Trump winning is Biden tbh. For throwing away what otherwise would have been an easy win if not for his support of Israel and anti free speech.

Being anti free speech and Signing off on things like the potential tik tok ban also wouldnt help him as far as the younger voters go.
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Prismsblade posted...
The only person you should be blaming for Trump winning is Biden tbh. For throwing away what otherwise would have been an easy win if not for his support of Israel and anti free speech.

Being anti free speech and Signing off on things like the potential tik tok ban also wouldnt help him as far as the younger voters go.
That's not an excuse for people to not vote in their best interests. I'm not voting for Biden. I'm voting to destroy the GOP.

Voters shouldn't be so fucking stupid that they won't do what's best for them if some old politician doesn't make them all tingly inside
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Some people don't seem to understand:

There are only two possible outcomes - Biden is president or Trump is president.

You can vote for one or the other.
Voting third party? It will still be one of these two.
Not voting at all? It will still be one of these two.

You can choose to move the needle left or right. Any other decision is equivalent for letting other people decide for you. But it WILL be one of these two - and all the things that come out from that.

No matter how much you hate Biden, Trump is worse. On Israel? EVEN WORSE. You think Biden is "Genocide Joe"? FUCKING LOL. And what do you think happens in Gaza with Trump as President?

There is not a single metric, dimension, topic, or opinion held in which Trump is superior to Biden. NOT FUCKING ONE.

No matter how much you hate or think Biden is bad, Trump is an order of magnitude worse. I wish things were different, but this is the hand we are dealt and this is the decision we have to make.
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Heineken14 posted...
Considering more people will vote against him 3 times in a row... no, it's not what we deserve.
Its okay, OP got to be smug and dismissive and in the end thats what really matters.
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Im not gonna blame half of the country for Biden losing if Trump wins that's just asinine
No lollygaggin'.
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Whiterun_Guard_ posted...
Im not gonna blame half of the country for Biden losing if Trump wins that's just asinine
I will because Trump would have about 7 votes in a non-joke world. You have to be legitimately stupid and/or evil to vote for Trump.
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Prismsblade posted...
The only person you should be blaming for Trump winning is Biden tbh. For throwing away what otherwise would have been an easy win if not for his support of Israel and anti free speech.

Being anti free speech and Signing off on things like the potential tik tok ban also wouldnt help him as far as the younger voters go.
Righteous feelings doesn't change how the United States elects a president of the United States.

People who don't vote or encourage others not to vote for one issue while ignores many many other important issues have themselves to blame for anything that comes to them from Trump/Republicans such as abortion rights, travel bans, trans rights and more being stripped away.

There are far more things on the line this election than just what's happening in the middle east, and lol tiktok. Issues such as LGBT rights, abortion, democracy, and even the Palestinian issues that abstain voters claim to care about but dont grasp under Trump he directly plans to target Muslims and Palestinians here in the US.

So the people throwing away issues they claim to care about and choosing to let Trump win are the abstain voters. No matter what they tell themselves. These are the same one issue voters confused about abortion rights and Affirmative Action rights being stripped away, but still cheerlead their bright idea to stay home in 2016. Failing to grasp that decision contributed to Trump getting 3 Supreme Court picks which led to things like Roe v Wade getting overturned.

Your feelings do not change how the United States of America elects a president, and that elections have consequences regardless if a candidate doesn't check every box you want them to. Especially one issue voters who contradict themselves with things like Palestine but fail to grasp their decision actually harms Palestinians/or Muslims even more in just the US alone let alone abroad.
Takato posted...
I'm Aussie, we are (were?) generally not involved with American culture wars and were quite proud of being more free and fair.

Remind me when you guys got rid of your racist caricature brand cookies, wasn't it like 1995?
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Takato posted...
I'm Aussie, we are (were?) generally not involved with American culture wars and were quite proud of being more free and fair.
I wonder if the Aboriginal population would agree with your assessment.
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LightningThief posted...
The only people I say deserve whatever comes is:
* The people who don't vote for Biden
* The people who encourage or roundabout encourage others to not vote. (Including those who claim theyre voting, but defend those not voting for Biden, essentiallya roundabout encouragement.) All in all its still encouraging enough of the population to help Trump.

2020 stopped Trump in a few states by just a few thousand votes, some even less than that. So, yes, every vote matters even if you think it doesn't. Collectively enough people running around with that logic also can affect an election.

Anyway, the above are the only people I think deserves whatever Trump does to the US.
There's a third major category here -- the idiots and fascist fellow travelers in the mainstream political media that aren't reporting on the only important issue in US politics -- i.e., the Republican party being a cesspit of Satan.
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EPR-radar posted...
There's a third major category here -- the idiots and fascist fellow travelers in the mainstream political media that aren't reporting on the only important issue in US politics -- i.e., the Republican party being a cesspit of Satan.
I'd argue they follow under category 2 if they are going about roundabout reasons to not vote Biden, in their efforts to sound fair, or "same thing both sides."
Also Australian here. Yes we have issues of our own, but its nothing compared to the trash fire the US is becoming, especially if Trump wins the election
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I'll be voting against Trump. I'll never understand someone who would vote for that guy, especially after the four years we had under him.
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The fact that Trump stood a chance is already embarrassing enough. I'd expect this from a developing country, but certainly not the US.
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St0rmFury posted...
The fact that Trump stood a chance is already embarrassing enough. I'd expect this from a developing country, but certainly not the US.
The US is basically just a developing country with nukes and a really big military.
Are we the baddies?
LightningThief posted...
Righteous feelings doesn't change how the United States elects a president of the United States.

People who don't vote or encourage others not to vote for one issue while ignores many many other important issues have themselves to blame for anything that comes to them from Trump/Republicans such as abortion rights, travel bans, trans rights and more being stripped away.

There are far more things on the line this election than just what's happening in the middle east, and lol tiktok. Issues such as LGBT rights, abortion, democracy, and even the Palestinian issues that abstain voters claim to care about but dont grasp under Trump he directly plans to target Muslims and Palestinians here in the US.

So the people throwing away issues they claim to care about and choosing to let Trump win are the abstain voters. No matter what they tell themselves. These are the same one issue voters confused about abortion rights and Affirmative Action rights being stripped away, but still cheerlead their bright idea to stay home in 2016. Failing to grasp that decision contributed to Trump getting 3 Supreme Court picks which led to things like Roe v Wade getting overturned.

Your feelings do not change how the United States of America elects a president, and that elections have consequences regardless if a candidate doesn't check every box you want them to. Especially one issue voters who contradict themselves with things like Palestine but fail to grasp their decision actually harms Palestinians/or Muslims even more in just the US alone let alone abroad.

It wasn't here but I actually saw someone with a straight face claim that Biden is worse than Trump because he's "actively doing genocide while there's only a potential with Trump so that's a better outcome". Another one said they have a LGBTQ+ daughter who will be actively harmed or worse under Trump's second term but they can't vote for Biden because it goes against the values they've taught her about "doing what's right". It's mind boggling how people can be like this knowing what will happen if Trump wins.
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