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They're losing it over the new black protagonist

I'n losing it when they're asking for pre orders without showing any gameplay lol
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idk if that analogy holds.

Yasuke's as much a tool of the elites. maybe even more so due to starting out as a slave.

plus it sounds like it's a story of atonement on his end, based on the trailer, while helping him the woman on her mission.

also, AC leads weren't always stand-ins for the average person - Altair was basically a dogmatic cultist, Ezio was a revenge-driven noble, Conner was a biracial guy taken in by an old black man, the one pirate dude was European in the Caribbean, etc.

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assassins creed is dead, the best assassins creed game is the game where you arent an assassin, and they should have released this version back when the series was relevant and people were asking for it. Getting angry about anything is a waste of time
Humble_Novice posted...
I'm curious to know what Japanese gamers think of this.
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tbf, if there was a Japanese person involved with the Boston Tea Party, that could be an interesting story.
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Baron_Ox posted...
idk if that analogy holds.

Yasuke's as much a tool of the elites. maybe even more so due to starting out as a slave.

plus it sounds like it's a story of atonement on his end, based on the trailer, while helping him the woman on her mission.

also, AC leads weren't always stand-ins for the average person - Altair was basically a dogmatic cultist, Ezio was a revenge-driven noble, Conner was a biracial guy taken in by an old black man, the one pirate dude was European in the Caribbean, etc.

edit: at post 100

I put average in quotes because there isn't truly anyone who can represent an average person. That said non-Japanese people during that time was much more rare than the examples you listed. Cultists during time of the Crusades and nobles in the Italian states are rare, but they aren't an anomaly like Yasuke or William Adams. I think the novelty of these 2 men are in part why they are in so much media.
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Mew posted...
They're losing it over the new black protagonist

I'n losing it when they're asking for pre orders without showing any gameplay lol

I only care about the protagonist because I never had any intention of buying any Ubisoft game ever again so the fact that they're asking you to pre-order the dlc of a game that isn't released yet is meaningless to me.
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YellowSUV posted...
I put average in quotes because there isn't truly anyone who can represent an average person. That said non-Japanese people during that time was much more rare than the examples you listed. Cultists during time of the Crusades and nobles in the Italian states are rare, but they aren't an anomaly like Yasuke or William Adams. I think the novelty of these 2 men are in part why they are in so much media.
what I meant was that the leads tend to be outsiders in some way, which influences their forms of justice.

from what I understand, while rare, it wasn't unheard of for Europeans to bring slaves of African descent to Japan, so that gave him a more unique perspective into Japanese society than the average foreigner. and that would make it feel different than the Japanese feudal story we might be used to.

plus, if this was just a story focusing on him, I could understand why some people might be upset, but there's literally a lead of Japanese descent that you can also play as.
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Trelve posted...
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Oof, they're definitely not happy about this then.
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Humble_Novice posted...
Oof, they're definitely not happy about this then.
So, what, a few racist YouTube comments are representative of all Japanese gamers?
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Are Japanese gamers still really reluctant play any games that aren't made by Japanese developers?

Baron_Ox posted...
tbf, if there was a Japanese person involved with the Boston Tea Party, that could be an interesting story.

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UnholyMudcrab posted...
So, what, a few racist YouTube comments are representative of all Japanese gamers?
I didn't see that much positive remarks from Japanese netizens over this game on YouTube, though the ones that seem okay with it were already getting kind of tired of historically accurate titles to begin with. While Yasuke being a character isn't much of a problem, him getting the role of protagonist is a whole different issue for them. Here are some reactions I found on Twitter, and it seems opinions are rather mixed on the whole thing.
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sfcalimari posted...
Are Japanese gamers still really reluctant play any games that aren't made by Japanese developers?
I know that most Japanese gamers absolutely loved Ghost of Tsushima which was made by a Western developer.
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Move over Stella blade we have a new culture war game
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Couldn't imagine being so much of a miserable fuck that I'd literally go out of my way to find things to be outraged about

Jesus Christ, these dudes need to interact with real people
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My understanding is the character is based on a historical figure so fair, next.

I'd get complaining about say making a Japanese protagonist in AC: Valhalla because it just wouldn't make sense, it would be dumb. However this is a character based on a literal historical figure, the only reason to complain is racism.
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Couldn't imagine being so much of a miserable fuck that I'd literally go out of my way to find things to be outraged about

Jesus Christ, these dudes need to interact with real people
You misunderstand culture war issues is how people get clicks and eyeballs on their social media platforms so they always drumb it up it up aa soon as there's a window to get everyone fighting In the comments and profit from it. We're stuck with this
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Looks like there's more receptive responses from Japanese netizens concerning the game.
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If you ask me, whoever wrote the story definitely knew what they were doing in order to have the game get attention. After all, negative publicity is still publicity. What matters is how well the game itself will sell.
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tremain07 posted...
You misunderstand culture war issues is how people get clicks and eyeballs on their social media platforms so they always drumb it up it up aa soon as there's a window to get everyone fighting In the comments and profit from it. We're stuck with this

Oh, I'd definitely agree a lot of it is just assholes grifting, but then you have the guys who are genuinely pissed about this.

I can at least respect the perspective of some of the Japanese gamers mentioned in this thread who (seemingly) gave reasonable arguments, rather than just screaming "WOKE" and "DEI" at the top of their lungs.
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Outer_space posted...
I wonder if the journos who complained about Ghost of Tsushima and Sifu are also going to have an issue with this game.
What were their complaints concerning Ghost of Tsushima? From what I recall, Japanese gaming magazines gave it very high review scores.
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Oh I am glad people finally realized Japan isn't a hive mind and most people here don't participate in the US culture wars. Have fun arguing over irrelevant shit and ignoring Ubisoft's anti-consumer behavior.
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Humble_Novice posted...
What were their complaints concerning Ghost of Tsushima? From what I recall, Japanese gaming magazines gave it very high review scores.

It's definitely not a historically accurate game at all, but most people don't actually care about that. You can find some who would complain, but it's not a common opinion. People here like Kurosawa samurai films and they're largely revisionist nonsense (and you will again see some people complain about that, but it's not the majority opinion).
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Humble_Novice posted...
What were their complaints concerning Ghost of Tsushima? From what I recall, Japanese gaming magazines gave it very high review scores.

It wasn't the japanese magazines, it was the "other" Twitter bubble.

I still remember some stupid twitter shitstorm about "cultural appropriation " because some white guy played on a japanese flute for some presentation/trailer.
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
So, what, a few racist YouTube comments are representative of all Japanese gamers?
What makes you think they're racist?
Karovorak posted...
It wasn't the japanese magazines, it was the "other" Twitter bubble.

I still remember some stupid twitter shitstorm about "cultural appropriation " because some white guy played on a japanese flute for some presentation/trailer.
What.
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Humble_Novice posted...
What matters is how well the game itself will sell.

I doubt it would sell as well as Ghost of Tsushima.
Humble_Novice posted...
What.
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Twitter freaks see everything as racist, despite the fact that this guy is a master of the instrument.
Trelve posted...
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Twitter freaks see everything as racist, despite the fact that this guy is a master of the instrument.
Wow, that's like accusing a Japanese violinist of committing cultural appropriation. I swear some people need to stop accusing everything they don't like as bigoted.
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Humble_Novice posted...
Wow, that's like accusing a Japanese violinist of committing cultural appropriation. I swear some people need to stop accusing everything they don't like as bigoted.

The only reason views like that are seen is because social media allows extreme unhinged opinions to be amplified. Most people don't actually feel this way about stuff. You aren't seeing articles from major publications making these accusations, just random Twitter people. Those tweets are obscure, some don't even have any likes at all.
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Humble_Novice posted...
I swear some people need to stop accusing everything they don't like as bigoted.
I think people at large need to stop being offended on behalf of others unprompted. If the group they're pretending to defend is not offended, they have no right to be offended on behalf of that group, simple as. And even if the group is offended, they can go to bat for themselves. Just assuming they will be offended and jumping on Twitter to cry racist like in those images just gives off real nasty white savior vibes... fucking gross.

To be very clear, I'm not saying people shouldn't step up when actual injustices are occurring. This is specifically about situations like these, where they see something they only assume should offend a culture and immediately go on the offensive, without even checking with the people of that culture to see how they feel about it (they were fine with it in this particular case).
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It must be cool to have a samurai ancestor
I think a big problem is samurai is like katana in that English word is not the word used in Japanese. In Japanese a katana is just single sided bladed weapon, including similar European weapons, a Japanese katana is a nihontou . Similarly samurai is not the word used for the hereditary warrior class, bushi is. And a samurai family is a buke. So the question would be was Yasuke made a buke? And according to Japanese Wikipedia, two different history sites I found, and NHK (basically Japanese BBC) he was. So this whole retainer/samurai argument is a bunch of needling over English words. As far as Japan is concerned he was made part of the hereditary warrior class by Nobunaga (specifically a Kashin).

Edit:
I found a thread on Reddit by a Historian translating relevant sources:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1css0ye/was_yasuke_a_samurai/

He also concludes he was a samurai.
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